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J50 and D18

#1 User is offline   ThemisSal 

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Posted 01 October 2017 - 06:22 PM

Hey guys and gals,

As many are sharing soundclips on some of their guitars this weekend, I'd like to do the same.

A few weeks ago I finally got my custom D18 from Nazareth. Its simply a regular standard D18, but with a 1 and 11/16 neck - like the neck on the HD28s. I love it. And of course I also love my Gibson J50.

To my ears these two sound so very different, despite their both being sitka over hog dreads.

I made a recording tonight, and am sharing it in case some would like to hear how similar or different these two guitars sound. The D18 has new Lifespan PB Mediums. The J50 has new Lifespan PB Lights

The J50 is first...

https://soundcloud.c...chatham/j50-d18

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Posted 01 October 2017 - 06:36 PM

Both sound nice. The Gibson has more clarity and articulation than the Martin.......to these ears. If recorded one right behind the other, as it sounds was done, the J-50 is a bit louder........reckon the 18 has some opening up to do yet.........

(.....is that a longhorn steer on the headstock?)
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Posted 01 October 2017 - 06:43 PM

Buc,
I agree. The J50 is louder to me as well. Goes to show that the stereotypes don’t always hold (I think most would say that a D18 has to be louder, being a bluegrass Martin dread).
Fear not, I will play this D18 a lot. It will open up. And yes that is a cattle skull on the headstock.
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Posted 01 October 2017 - 07:02 PM

I have been wanting a D18 but sheesh, this J50 sounds absolutely fantastic!
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Posted 01 October 2017 - 07:36 PM

Both sound great, but the J 50 has a bit more rumble and sparkle. Are the braces scalloped on the new design 18s Sal? It sure has a rich sound.
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Posted 01 October 2017 - 07:47 PM

That j50 has all you need. It’s loud and crisp and balanced more than the D18. IMO

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Posted 01 October 2017 - 08:26 PM

Do my ears detect some echo, Sal? I think that has the effect of warming up the Gibson but muddying the Martin.
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Posted 05 October 2017 - 04:43 PM

Two aces of hog - you can hear the square is roomier, which in my mind fits some tunes better.
I would take the tighter J for for faster, more right hand active stuff and go D for the slow-mo ballads.
In case you really wanna strum up a 'hall' during a song in one chord, , , , whouuum, , , break a few seconds, , , and continue inside that dignified space, M can do it.
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Posted 06 October 2017 - 06:01 AM

The heart of any guitar. of course, is the bracing and the bridge plate not the lumber. It is tough for me to even compare guitars I am not playing because so much depends on the players attack and how they approach the instrument. With me I tend to automatically adjust to the voice of individual guitars based on their characteristics and will string them with different gauge strings (generally heavier or lighter low and high end strings) to bring out what I want to bring out. That said, to my ancient ears, the J-50 sounded brighter which I think gives the illusion of greater volume. It also sounded like the Gibson's mids decayed a bit faster which gives the guitar a bit sharper more focused sound while the Martin has what I would describe as scooped mids which emphasize them over the low and high end. Gives the guitar a warm sound. The rwo guitars I would love to compare though would be a Gibson J-50 and a short scale Martin D-18S.
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Posted 06 October 2017 - 06:32 PM

[quote name='zombywoof' timestamp='1507291264' post='1885122'] "the J-50 sounded brighter which I think gives the illusion of greater volume. It also sounded like the Gibson's mids decayed a bit faster which gives the guitar a bit sharper more focused sound" Yep. And if you dig in on the matin, it will give up more sound
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Posted 06 October 2017 - 06:32 PM

[quote name='zombywoof' timestamp='1507291264' post='1885122'] "the J-50 sounded brighter which I think gives the illusion of greater volume. It also sounded like the Gibson's mids decayed a bit faster which gives the guitar a bit sharper more focused sound" Yep. And if you dig in on the matin, it will give up more sound
“There are evidently some principle in [man's] nature, which interests him in the fortune of others and render their happiness necessary to him" Adam Smith

"As through this world you ramble, you meet some funny men. Some rob you with a six-gun, some rob you with a fountain pen" Woodrow Wilson Guthrie.

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Posted 07 October 2017 - 09:12 AM

j50 sounded fuller they would most likely pair up well in a recording
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