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2015 Gibson's ...how are they really?

#41 User is offline   NighthawkChris 

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 10:33 AM

View PostIanHenry, on 14 November 2017 - 09:58 AM, said:

Chris, the main point is that you paid what you were happy with, if it's the right guitar for you then you've got to pay whatever it takes to secure it. Life's to short to waste waiting for the next one that comes along.


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Yes, I agree with you on this. I believe I have played it every night since i have purchased it and it sounds great. I still at this very moment in my window to be able to return it for full refund, and I have not been inclined to move in this direction. I appreciate all the comments and replies on this. There are some good people on this forum to discuss these matters with. I sincerely appreciate all the feedback! Thank you all Posted Image
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Posted 16 November 2017 - 01:30 AM

View PostTwang Gang, on 31 October 2017 - 08:50 AM, said:

Glad you got the guitar you wanted and are happy with it.

As I recall most of the complaining about 2015 models was from people who never played one or ever had one in their hands. They just read about the wider neck, brass nut, auto-tuners etc. and said they didn't like any of those features. I guess the nut was a problem and Gibson recognized that and was willing to replace them. Also yours is a custom and didn't have some of the things people didn't like about that year (hologram).


You didnt have to play them to not like that horrible logo or robo tuners.

I own a 15 Junior, ive talked about it here before, i bought it because i got a (at the time, they've since been sold cheaper) smoking deal on it. But that logo is hideous, the brass tuner had grooves worn in it after a month or two of me playing it (and I didnít play it a whole lot) and I ripped the G Force off the minute I got it. It also has that ridiculous Les Paul hologram.

For me personally I didnít care one way or the other about the zero fret, I like the wider fretboard but wouldnít want it on all my guitars. The G Force was a solution looking for a problem and the logo was flat out retarded. I still canít believe that logo made it all the way to market.

On the Standard models the three knobs with the toggle switch just looks goofy and off. Itís like Gibson didnít put much thought in how all these changes would affect the aesthetics of the LP. I mean the LP is the best looking guitar ever made IMO, thatís why itís one of the most copied. So why Gibson thought screwing with the looks was a good idea is beyond me.

I get that it this point Gibson is competing with itself because of all the used LP out there but the looks of the LP is one thing they shouldnít mess with. If they just changed the looks of a model here or there no one would have cared....but to change it across the board? Just dumb.

So even though I own a 15 I absolutely understand the backlash and agree with a lot of it. It was just dumb of Gibson to force those changes on every LP they made. I still canít stand the headstock sig on my Junior and had to cover it up with a sticker. I got the free titanium nut from Gibson but ended up getting a Tusq nut for it, which is far superior to the brass one it originally came with.

So in short, IMO, the 2015s are good guitars, theyíre just not for everyone. Their features shouldnít have been implemented across the board. And donít forget Gibson also jacked the prices up something like 30-40% on the Ď15s. You didnít have to play a 15 to know it shouldnít cost 30% more than a Ď14.
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Posted 16 November 2017 - 01:42 AM

View PostNighthawkChris, on 26 October 2017 - 08:05 AM, said:

I have recently purchased a 2015 LP Custom tri-burst. It is pretty much a nice heavy block of solid body (has to be around 10lbs easy - will weigh soon enough), electronics are "classical-like" (soldered "popcorn part" pots and caps - as one would expect I suppose), the tuners are Grovers, and there is no cheezy hologram on the back of the neck-headstock region. Cosmetically, it is fabulous to say the least. What imperfections exist, I have to look very closely at it to see them. Overall, the guitar I wanted. Oh, and it sounds real nice to me with the 498T and 490R pickups.

Going online the biggest gripe with a 2015 (as far as I can tell) is with the G-Force tuner system and the brass (titanium replacement) nut. The brass nut... yeah this is an issue, and a big one IMHO. At least I gather the replacement is free... The tuning system with a faulty nut material doesn't help promote the tuning system any either. I have heard there are complaints of placing an internal PCB in the control cavity. I don't see how that's a bad deal, but if you want to mod the guitar, then maybe it will pose a problem. My guitar does not seem to conform to this stuff whatsoever. It has a plastic (corian?) nut, classical gold HW tuners, electronics are wired, and based on feel, I think that it is not weight relieved... Frets are also very nice with well-cut nibs... Finish and figured maple top is just stunning.

So, I love the guitar - definitely not intending on returning it at all. It is a straight up Les Paul with that familiar LP tone we all love so much. I suppose it seems that the 2015 lineup is focused on Gibson USA and their QC mishaps, not the Custom Shop? Because, honestly, it seems like my guitar was handled with love at the factory, at the GC I bought it from, and now it is in my possession. Received it in a very acceptable condition - and yes for the money I paid for it, it is up to par. The experience was a great one from picking it out, to finally receiving it in my possession. I live in MI and ordered my LPC from Manhattan GC, so it had an extra shipping detail prior to it falling into my hands. Everyone has done a great job with it, but this is GC related. Just mentioning because even after going through GC's hands, it still arrived in awesome condition.

So what else is the stigma with 2015 Gibson guitars? I don't get it and how all of a sudden, 2016's came out and you get a wonderful Gibson...


The ďstigmaĒ is because Gibson tried to force the changes on every LP that year. If the 2015 features had just been on a single model, or a few models, no one would have cared. It was the across the board part that bothered 99% of the people complaining.

Also Gibson jacked up the prices on the 2015s toabsurd levels. So they made changes very few people liked or wanted then jacked the prices up on top of that. The guitars themselves arenít bad as far as playability goes. Theyíre just different (and IMO goofy) looking.

I own a Ď15 junior and it plays great but I ditched the G Force, put a Tusq nut on it and covered up that ridiculous looking sig with a sticker. On the Standards, Deluxe etc the three knobs just look weird to me but Iím sure they play great, or as good as any LP.

The only change I like on the 15s is the wider fretboard, but even that I wouldnít want on every LP. Itís just a nice option to have if you want it.
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Posted 30 November 2017 - 08:52 AM

Last night, I was playing my 2015 LP Custom, and it is a real nice piece of work... The more I play it, the more I appreciate it. Aside from the guitar needing a setup after paying Gibson money, the guitar is outright awesome. Looks beautiful and most importantly, sounds and plays great (of course after a setup). I could go on and on how Gibson doesn't setup even a Custom Shop guitar (the saddles were in a straight line - my screwdriver was first to manipulate the TOM), but the HW is functional and I have no complaints whatsoever about it. The action is nice - the TOM is nearly touching the body! I did raise the tail a little as it was causing the strings and TOM to come into contact.

Overall, this guitar is spectacular, and for what I paid for it, it will be worth it to me if it means I have a beautiful looking and sounding instrument for the ages. Like I said, the more I play it, the better it gets. The intonation seems to get better and it definitely stays in tune much better. The tuning machines were a bit stiff at first being that they were pretty new and unused, but I adjusted the screw torque on the Grovers to make them more "pleasant" to operate - enough to hold a string in place but not too tight that it takes a tool to twist the peg-head. But that's all it took for the tuning machines... The nut doesn't plink (bind) the strings anymore thanks #2 pencil... I have been playing some country/jazz/blues with it and it fits in nicely. Sustain is great and the tone is amazing coming out of the 498T/490R set. Overall, really starting to love this guitar and have it feel like one of my old trusty guitars. I can easily see how this will become one of my most favorite guitars as I spend the years with it. It's all the Les Paul anyone would ever want, haha! Always been a Gibson guy since I started playing as a kid, and I haven't swayed the path. I went all in on them and I am not regretful of my decision to pull the trigger on this tri-burst LP Custom. Just love how the flames on the finish move when I look at it in different light! Even my little nephew who is 10, doesn't play guitar was in awe of how beautiful it looks as he was afraid to touch it, haha! I mean, damn, every inch of this guitar is just awesome, and she will be played Posted Image
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Posted 30 November 2017 - 09:25 PM

View PostNighthawkChris, on 30 November 2017 - 08:52 AM, said:

Last night, I was playing my 2015 LP Custom, and it is a real nice piece of work... The more I play it, the more I appreciate it. Aside from the guitar needing a setup after paying Gibson money, the guitar is outright awesome. Looks beautiful and most importantly, sounds and plays great (of course after a setup). I could go on and on how Gibson doesn't setup even a Custom Shop guitar (the saddles were in a straight line - my screwdriver was first to manipulate the TOM), but the HW is functional and I have no complaints whatsoever about it. The action is nice - the TOM is nearly touching the body! I did raise the tail a little as it was causing the strings and TOM to come into contact.

Overall, this guitar is spectacular, and for what I paid for it, it will be worth it to me if it means I have a beautiful looking and sounding instrument for the ages. Like I said, the more I play it, the better it gets. The intonation seems to get better and it definitely stays in tune much better. The tuning machines were a bit stiff at first being that they were pretty new and unused, but I adjusted the screw torque on the Grovers to make them more "pleasant" to operate - enough to hold a string in place but not too tight that it takes a tool to twist the peg-head. But that's all it took for the tuning machines... The nut doesn't plink (bind) the strings anymore thanks #2 pencil... I have been playing some country/jazz/blues with it and it fits in nicely. Sustain is great and the tone is amazing coming out of the 498T/490R set. Overall, really starting to love this guitar and have it feel like one of my old trusty guitars. I can easily see how this will become one of my most favorite guitars as I spend the years with it. It's all the Les Paul anyone would ever want, haha! Always been a Gibson guy since I started playing as a kid, and I haven't swayed the path. I went all in on them and I am not regretful of my decision to pull the trigger on this tri-burst LP Custom. Just love how the flames on the finish move when I look at it in different light! Even my little nephew who is 10, doesn't play guitar was in awe of how beautiful it looks as he was afraid to touch it, haha! I mean, damn, every inch of this guitar is just awesome, and she will be played Posted Image


Yeah....but Gibson didnít mess up the Customs in 2015.
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Posted 01 December 2017 - 05:34 AM

View PostAllenjason95, on 30 November 2017 - 09:25 PM, said:

Yeah....but Gibson didnít mess up the Customs in 2015.

Yeah, I gather that now... Initially, I lumped all Gibson production into a heap for 2015 but that seems to not be the case. Anyhow, glad I went with the Custom. It hasn't let me down so far...
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Posted 01 December 2017 - 10:47 AM

View PostNighthawkChris, on 01 December 2017 - 05:34 AM, said:

Yeah, I gather that now... Initially, I lumped all Gibson production into a heap for 2015 but that seems to not be the case. Anyhow, glad I went with the Custom. It hasn't let me down so far...


Customs are cool. I have a white 88.
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Posted 07 December 2017 - 12:15 PM

I' m very surprised how my 2015 SG Std is a very good Gibson, only the weight of GForce tuners can be an issue.

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