linv5800 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Hi all , Just got a new 2016 Les Paul Traditional T . Its beautiful , but it will not tune. Changed the strings since they had been on since build date .But nothing. Still wont tune. Strings are alarming high off the fret board. I tried what I know to do but till not what a Gibson should be. Any clues ? I have a 2015 Epi pro top plus that blows it out of the water. An info would be helpful. Thanks all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparquelito Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Hi all , Just got a new 2016 Les Paul Traditional T . Its beautiful , but it will not tune. Changed the strings since they had been on since build date .But nothing. Still wont tune. Strings are alarming high off the fret board. I tried what I know to do but till not what a Gibson should be. Any clues ? I have a 2015 Epi pro top plus that blows it out of the water. An info would be helpful. Thanks all Just to clarify, the strings would not go into tune and won't stay in tune? The old original ones and the brand new ones? I must point out that the original strings AND the brand new ones still need stretching-in and breaking-in just a bit before they will stay in tune. The G and B unwound strings in particular. Did you do a lot of stretching and bends, to get the strings set? :unsure: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparquelito Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 And please forgive me if you are a veteran player and performer, but I had to ask. Many newer players have no idea that guitar strings don't stay in tune fresh out of the pack. There is a bit of work involved. :mellow: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard McCoy Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Please post pictures and more information. Usual suspects: tight nut slots and apparently ("strings are alarming high off the fret board") no professional setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eracer_Team Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 I would hazard to guess you need a good setup with trussrod , bridge hight and intonation done. Stings that won't tune, is a beginner mistake over tuning . Stings that won't stay in tune well that could be stretching, nut adjust, etc. Need clarification on what you're doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linv5800 Posted October 30, 2017 Author Share Posted October 30, 2017 I'm a player for over 30 years and no offence taken , I should have been more clear.I will post pics tomorrow and as far as stings , the old ones that came with it wouldn't tune right. on a chromatic tuner they would be on but most chords it was way off. So I put new strings on , let them stretch for 2 days and same problem. So I checked for tuning , then recheck harmonic and at 12th fret and adjusted bridge. That helped some but still bad . like I aid string height is high. I will post good pics tomorrow after work when I have time to do them right with good light.Thanks all for the help. Oh , btw , I did a bit of neck relief , was way tight. On a side note , this is only my 2nd Gibson Les Paul. Like I mentioned , my Epi Les Paul is butter. But I do love this one , just want it to be good and true. thanks again all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habanero Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 My new Gibson was terrible out of the box. While mine didn't really have tuning problems, it had many other problems. I have purchased other guitars which did not "require" a setup to play well, but my Les Paul did for sure. They should include a coupon in the case which gives you a free setup. Anyway, I took mine to an experienced luthier and certified Gibson repair tech. He dressed the fret ends under warranty, and I paid $45 for the setup (plus the cost of D'Addario NYXLs which are like $12) and now that I have it setup properly, it plays amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 I'm a player for over 30 years and no offence taken , I should have been more clear.I will post pics tomorrow and as far as stings , the old ones that came with it wouldn't tune right. on a chromatic tuner they would be on but most chords it was way off. So I put new strings on , let them stretch for 2 days and same problem. So I checked for tuning , then recheck harmonic and at 12th fret and adjusted bridge. That helped some but still bad . like I aid string height is high. I will post good pics tomorrow after work when I have time to do them right with good light.Thanks all for the help. Oh , btw , I did a bit of neck relief , was way tight. On a side note , this is only my 2nd Gibson Les Paul. Like I mentioned , my Epi Les Paul is butter. But I do love this one , just want it to be good and true. thanks again all You need to actively stretch the new strings. Just letting them sit probably won't do much. Also use a good locking wrap technique of your choice. I suppose if the action is way too high you could be going "out of tune" when you fret a note, but I think it would have to be way high for that. Lower it down to spec and see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linv5800 Posted October 30, 2017 Author Share Posted October 30, 2017 Hi all , I just want to thank everyone here. I got to thinking about " beginner mistakes " , something I thought I was immune to . yea right . Id gone the wrong way with my neck adjustment but didn't think I had cause the strings were lower and just felt better. So early this morning before I left for work , I redid everything ! Now , just about perfect . So whoever said beginner mistakes , thank you. You made me start over and boom , I have my butter Gibson . Strings are dead on , true all the way up the neck and a joy. Thanks to everyone. I could not have done this right without this forum. My hats off to all. Ill post a couple pictures when I get home. I think what had happened was 16 months in a box and almost 2 full season cycles and shipping had done its toll . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Is the nut cut right and is the guitar set up properly? thinking about the same kind of questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valtyr Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Hi all , I just want to thank everyone here. I got to thinking about " beginner mistakes " , something I thought I was immune to . yea right . Id gone the wrong way with my neck adjustment but didn't think I had cause the strings were lower and just felt better. So early this morning before I left for work , I redid everything ! Now , just about perfect . So whoever said beginner mistakes , thank you. You made me start over and boom , I have my butter Gibson . Strings are dead on , true all the way up the neck and a joy. Thanks to everyone. I could not have done this right without this forum. My hats off to all. Ill post a couple pictures when I get home. I think what had happened was 16 months in a box and almost 2 full season cycles and shipping had done its toll . Glad it worked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockeygrad Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Had the same trouble with my first LP. Local shop was no help. I asked, on this site, if i had a lemon. A Gibson rep responded. He recommended, i take it to a Gibson authorized luthier who put it through a full set up, and it's the best guitar I've got now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolution Six Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Sell the Gibson and play the chinese copy ... [biggrin] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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