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Posted 08 November 2017 - 11:36 PM

Hi I'm new here. Does anybody know if there is a way to connect braided PU wires to a quick connect board?
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Posted 09 November 2017 - 03:49 AM

View PostTommyTunes, on 08 November 2017 - 11:36 PM, said:

Hi I'm new here. Does anybody know if there is a way to connect braided PU wires to a quick connect board?


Can you solder the connector to the braid and plug it in?
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Posted 09 November 2017 - 07:31 AM

 Farnsbarns, on 09 November 2017 - 03:49 AM, said:

Can you solder the connector to the braid and plug it in?


??? The connector is a plastic housing with multiple pins within
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Posted 09 November 2017 - 07:49 AM

View PostFarnsbarns, on 09 November 2017 - 03:49 AM, said:

Can you solder the connector to the braid and plug it in?


Yep. I did that on an SG Faded I had when I swapped pups. Easy as hell. Take off the connector and cut it leaving enough conductor to solder to your new pups. Do your soldering and put some tape or some heat shrink over the solder connections and plug it in.
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Posted 09 November 2017 - 09:56 AM

View PostTommyTunes, on 09 November 2017 - 07:31 AM, said:

??? The connector is a plastic housing with multiple pins within


I assume you're trying to attach the plug from the old pickup to the new pickup? Obviously the braid needs to connect to the ground. Connect it to the ground pin of the pug, the inner to the hot, and plug the plug back into the socket.

You could connect the braid to any ground, the back of a pot for example, but that defeats the object of having the quick connect.
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Posted 09 November 2017 - 10:47 AM

View PostFarnsbarns, on 09 November 2017 - 09:56 AM, said:

I assume you're trying to attach the plug from the old pickup to the new pickup? Obviously the braid needs to connect to the ground. Connect it to the ground pin of the pug, the inner to the hot, and plug the plug back into the socket.

You could connect the braid to any ground, the back of a pot for example, but that defeats the object of having the quick connect.


I am replacing stock Gibson P90's with Mojotone '56 quiet coils. The stock P90's have multiple wires (why so many wires for a P90, and what is what I have no clue), the new ones have the ground braid and center. So I would have to cut the quick connect off of the end of the existing PU's, strip those on the connector side and find the one that works?
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Posted 09 November 2017 - 12:45 PM

View PostTommyTunes, on 09 November 2017 - 10:47 AM, said:

I am replacing stock Gibson P90's with Mojotone '56 quiet coils. The stock P90's have multiple wires (why so many wires for a P90, and what is what I have no clue), the new ones have the ground braid and center. So I would have to cut the quick connect off of the end of the existing PU's, strip those on the connector side and find the one that works?


How many wires are on your stock P-90? It's a single coil pup if memory serves me right.
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Posted 09 November 2017 - 03:31 PM

View PostFZ Fan, on 09 November 2017 - 12:45 PM, said:

How many wires are on your stock P-90? It's a single coil pup if memory serves me right.

Yeah well that's where it gets good. The stock P90's have 5 wires...white, green, red, black, bare
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Posted 10 November 2017 - 03:38 AM

Are you sure it's a p90? Unless it's tapped (not to be confused with split) I can't think why it would have 4 wires plus a shield. Could it be a p100?

Check for continuity on each wire to the other 3. If you find there's only 1 pair connected together it's just the factory using 4 conductor wire on everything and you can ignore what's not connected.
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Posted 10 November 2017 - 06:58 AM

 Farnsbarns, on 10 November 2017 - 03:38 AM, said:

Are you sure it's a p90? Unless it's tapped (not to be confused with split) I can't think why it would have 4 wires plus a shield. Could it be a p100?

Check for continuity on each wire to the other 3. If you find there's only 1 pair connected together it's just the factory using 4 conductor wire on everything and you can ignore what's not connected.

Yes they are P90ís. I guess this is Gibsonís way of forcing use of the 5 pin connectors as a standard even if the pup doesnít require 5. Frustrating...
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Posted 10 November 2017 - 10:49 AM

View PostTommyTunes, on 10 November 2017 - 06:58 AM, said:

Yes they are P90's. I guess this is Gibson's way of forcing use of the 5 pin connectors as a standard even if the pup doesn't require 5. Frustrating...


It is still easy 4 are the conductors and 1 is the shield and is probably bare. The shield and black to go to ground (soldered to the ground lead off the quick disconnect plug), red to the controls (soldered to the hot lead off the quick disconnect plug), and the other two should be green and white they just get soldered together and not connected to anything (they are connecting the two coils in the pickup to each other in series). I would recommend leaving the two wires you solder together as long as the ones you are going to connect to the plug just in case you ever want to split it or take it out and use it somewhere else or sell it. If you want to tap or split them you may be out of luck using the quick disconnect, but just as a regular pickup it can be done and is easy. Cause if I can do it anyone can.
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Posted 10 November 2017 - 12:53 PM

View PostFZ Fan, on 10 November 2017 - 10:49 AM, said:

It is still easy 4 are the conductors and 1 is the shield and is probably bare. The shield and black to go to ground (soldered to the ground lead off the quick disconnect plug), red to the controls (soldered to the hot lead off the quick disconnect plug), and the other two should be green and white they just get soldered together and not connected to anything (they are connecting the two coils in the pickup to each other in series). I would recommend leaving the two wires you solder together as long as the ones you are going to connect to the plug just in case you ever want to split it or take it out and use it somewhere else or sell it. If you want to tap or split them you may be out of luck using the quick disconnect, but just as a regular pickup it can be done and is easy. Cause if I can do it anyone can.

Again, the new ones I want to put in are vintage braided. No multiple colored wires
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Posted 13 November 2017 - 11:31 AM

View PostTommyTunes, on 10 November 2017 - 12:53 PM, said:

Again, the new ones I want to put in are vintage braided. No multiple colored wires


OK I misread to much into it. So exactly what do you currently have? You said the new pups are 2 conductor and you mentioned a 5 pin plug? The pup you want to remove are they Dog Ear or Soapbar?
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Posted 14 November 2017 - 12:36 PM

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OK I misread to much into it. So exactly what do you currently have? You said the new pups are 2 conductor and you mentioned a 5 pin plug? The pup you want to remove are they Dog Ear or Soapbar?

Existing stock Gibson Soapbar P90's have 5 wires(wtf) attached to quick connects that plug into circuit board connectors. New P90's are vintage style braided leads.
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Posted 14 November 2017 - 12:52 PM

View PostTommyTunes, on 14 November 2017 - 12:36 PM, said:

Existing stock Gibson Soapbar P90's have 5 wires(wtf) attached to quick connects that plug into circuit board connectors. New P90's are vintage style braided leads.


Ok so is your plug 5 pins? And if so can your guitar coil tap or split the pups? You should be able to connect the center wire to the red wire off of the plug. Then connect the braided part to the black and bare wire and tape up the white and green. Insulate all wires of course so none touch. The white and green are probably connected at the circuit board to join the two coils..

Gibson's color scheme is this.

Red Slug Coil Hot
White Slug Coil Negative

Green Screw Coil Hot
Black Screw Coil Negative

Bare Ground
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Posted 14 November 2017 - 01:11 PM

View PostFZ Fan, on 14 November 2017 - 12:52 PM, said:

Ok so is your plug 5 pins? And if so can your guitar coil tap or split the pups? You should be able to connect the center wire to the red wire off of the plug. Then connect the braided part to the black and bare wire and tape up the white and green. Insulate all wires of course so none touch. The white and green are probably connected at the circuit board to join the two coils..

Gibson's color scheme is this.

Red Slug Coil Hot
White Slug Coil Negative

Green Screw Coil Hot
Black Screw Coil Negative

Bare Ground

P90's are single coil...
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Posted 14 November 2017 - 02:28 PM

View PostTommyTunes, on 14 November 2017 - 01:11 PM, said:

P90's are single coil...


I know.
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Posted 14 November 2017 - 02:58 PM

Can you take a picture of your pickups and of the board and plug please

Think FZ is try to tell you , you'll need to cut the wire before the plug and solder your new pickup wire to the wire on the plug

But to make sure what he/we are hearing from you. Better take pictures before cutting.
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Posted 14 November 2017 - 04:42 PM

This is silly. Its such a simple circuit, the only good advice anyone can offer at this stage is to visit a local tech and pay a small amount to have them do it for you.
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Posted 14 November 2017 - 06:06 PM

Hi Tommy;

To install your new 2 wire p90.....


AS FZ stated.....connect the center wire to the red wire off of the plug. Then connect the braided part to the black wire. Insulate all connections of course so none touch, including the green and white so that they don't touch something and ground out part of your board.




It really doesn't matter the deal with the old one (although it sounds like there is either a coil tap or a dummy coil in there somewhere for the extra wires) unless you want to install the old p90 into another circuit, but since it's being removed it's really not relevant.



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