Jalex Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 I notice Stewmac has the Klusons on closeout. Do you any of you guys know if these will fit my 2012 Gibson J-50 which has the Grovers? http://www.stewmac.com/Closeouts/TonePros_Kluson_3and3_Tuners_with_Threaded_Bushings.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorrisrownSal Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 I think you have to drill a hole... but those should be good. I recall those being recommended to me when I changed my tuners from grover rotos. I ended up going Golden Age Restoration creme buttons, but needed my luthier to adjust for me. Anyways... some threads: http://forum.gibson.com/index.php?/topic/115503-replacement-tuners-for-j-45-standard/ http://forum.gibson.com/index.php?/topic/97342-would-you-swap-tuners-with/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jalex Posted November 27, 2017 Author Share Posted November 27, 2017 I think you have to drill a hole... but those should be good. I recall those being recommended to me when I changed my tuners from grover rotos. I ended up going Golden Age Restoration creme buttons, but needed my luthier to adjust for me. Anyways... some threads: http://forum.gibson.com/index.php?/topic/115503-replacement-tuners-for-j-45-standard/ http://forum.gibson.com/index.php?/topic/97342-would-you-swap-tuners-with/ Thanks Sal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyd Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Those look like they should fit the existing pegholes but you may need to make new screw holes. Here's a thread about changing tuners on my 2008 J-50: http://forum.gibson.com/index.php?/topic/111365-ntd-new-tuners-day The big question is what it will look like from the front. The grovers have big washers/nuts that I personally really disliked. So I went with the vintage style tuners and they require a bushing in the peg-hole to adapt to the smaller diameter. That was no problem, but the big issue was the "bullseyes" that were created by the washers from the original rotomatic tuners. That required sanding and polishing the headstock, which was a bit of a project. So if you want to avoid that, make sure that those Klusons either have their own comparably sized washer or if you can re-use the original rotomatic washer. Another possible "gotcha" is the placement of the serial number on my J-50. Many of the third party tuners would have partially covered that up, which I thought would look strange. Maybe this is different on the 2012 J-50 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jalex Posted November 27, 2017 Author Share Posted November 27, 2017 Thanks for the info Boyd😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafy31 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 I think you have to drill a hole... but those should be good. I recall those being recommended to me when I changed my tuners from grover rotos. I ended up going Golden Age Restoration creme buttons, but needed my luthier to adjust for me. Anyways... some threads: http://forum.gibson.com/index.php?/topic/115503-replacement-tuners-for-j-45-standard/ http://forum.gibson.com/index.php?/topic/97342-would-you-swap-tuners-with/ Some put them without drilling, that's already 2 holes (main hole+screw) to hold them, allows to reverse back. Never tried that though. I really dislike the Grover rotomatics. Not about looks, but they are not precise at all, not smooth... not great. I have a $200 guitar (Sigma 1992 by Martin) with same look for tuners, but they're far better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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