The Hierophant Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Hi! Recently I saw an advert for a red ES 335 dot. The owner says it's from 2009 and he's had it from new, but it does not have a certificate of authenticity. The ad has since expired without selling, so I don't have the pictures to show Gibson, and thus they won't offer me any advice at all. What I'd like to know is would a 2009 335 normally have a COA? I've had one before and that came with one, but I think that one was a later model. The guitar is still gettable, in spite of the expired advert. Thanks in advance for your input, guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hierophant Posted December 1, 2017 Author Share Posted December 1, 2017 If it is at a good price and you want it is the COA a breaking point if it is a real Gibby? It's not really a breaking point. It would affect the price I'm willing to pay though and there's some travel involved, so I'd prefer to know in advance, if you see what I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drog Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 How much is a COA worth to the value of a guitar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hierophant Posted December 1, 2017 Author Share Posted December 1, 2017 How much is a COA worth to the value of a guitar? On something in this range, generally a couple of hundred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 If you can otherwise guarantee the authenticity of the guitar, the COA is meaningless, and neither adds to nor subtracts from the value of the instrument. You aren't buying a COA: you're buying a guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twang Gang Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 I have bought several new Gibsons over the years, and none of them had a COA until recently and those were only guitars from the Custom Shop. A 2009 dot 335 probably never had a COA in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Farnsbarns Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Is it a reissue? Did they ever come with a COA? I don't think it affects the value but at the moment the value is defined by what you're prepared to pay so if they need a sale maybe you can get $200 off anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airedale1 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 If you can otherwise guarantee the authenticity of the guitar, the COA is meaningless, and neither adds to nor subtracts from the value of the instrument. You aren't buying a COA: you're buying a guitar. While I agree with you in theory, pragmatically speaking I disagree and here's why. Just like anything else you are buying or selling; the item in question is for all intents and purposes worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it. That being said, if someone is willing to a pay a premium for a COA for whatever reason, then it is not meaningless. Also, as a buyer if I'm choosing from two guitars and between the two all things are equal, I would choose the one with the COA over the one that does not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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