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hello all..gibson custom shop?

#1 User is offline   kolhauszer 

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Posted 04 December 2017 - 09:58 PM

hi all
your advice was awesome the first time on..now im here asking for help once again for advice on you pros...need it bigtime

this les paul custom shop with all the candy?..please tell me if she is w0rthy of that price..i am dont now with guitars..on my facebook youd see 34 that ive had in the last 5 years alone and i am done..all i want now is to dedicate myself to one woman

is she worthy?


https://www.kijiji.c...shop/1315095103
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#2 User is offline   kolhauszer 

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Posted 04 December 2017 - 09:58 PM

hi all
your advice was awesome the first time on..now im here asking for help once again for advice on you pros...need it bigtime

this les paul custom shop with all the candy?..please tell me if she is w0rthy of that price..i am done now with guitars..on my facebook youd see 34 that ive had in the last 5 years alone and i am done..all i want now is to dedicate myself to one woman

is she worthy?


https://www.kijiji.c...shop/1315095103
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Posted 04 December 2017 - 10:42 PM

View Postkolhauszer, on 04 December 2017 - 09:58 PM, said:

hi all
your advice was awesome the first time on..now im here asking for help once again for advice on you pros...need it bigtime

this les paul custom shop with all the candy?..please tell me if she is w0rthy of that price..i am done now with guitars..on my facebook youd see 34 that ive had in the last 5 years alone and i am done..all i want now is to dedicate myself to one woman

is she worthy?


https://www.kijiji.c...shop/1315095103


No way in hell would I pay $4,200 for a guitar (unless I knew I could flip it for more) and that paint job belongs on a PRS, not a LP IMO. I think it's fugly. So if you're asking opinions, mine is a hard no.
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Posted 04 December 2017 - 10:47 PM

i love that answer bro..funny you should mention prs,,im considering trading her for 2 vintage custom prs..a 24 and a 22,,but aside from the flipping aspect however?..im assuming thaT 4200 would still be unworthy,,he was asking 5200..and ive seen a few going for that price but that is far from actual knowledge on knwoing if she is worthy of that price,,which is why im here,,would this be a great guitar to trade for or purchase if this was going to be kept forever
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Posted 05 December 2017 - 03:50 AM

View Postkolhauszer, on 04 December 2017 - 10:47 PM, said:

would this be a great guitar to trade for or purchase if this was going to be kept forever


Remember that an investment can go up or down. I personally would only invest in something tangible (be it a classic car, motorbike, guitar, whatever) if I would still be happy with that purchase if it's value declined in the long term. In other words you need to enjoy owning it to justify its purchase
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Posted 05 December 2017 - 04:07 AM

For that money I'd want an ebony fingerboard and abalone inlays. I don't like the colour either but then I'm a hardfast sunburst fan.
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Posted 05 December 2017 - 04:16 AM

No one can answer this without picking it up and playing it.

Some info...

AAAA is not the highest grading Gibson have ever offered.

That said, grading is meaningless arbitrary numbers of As with no real definition.

I also hate the colour.

I don't think any LP has had abalone inlays, possibly a few rarities (thinking supreme).

Ignore rarity/investment etc. It's a used guitar. Pay what you're willing to pay HAVING PLAYED IT.
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Posted 05 December 2017 - 04:52 AM

IMO nowhere near worth the asking price.
If I was thinking about spending that amount of money I would, without question, get a used R4 / R6 / R7 / R8 / R9 / R0.
It's not even a close call.
An RI will probably hold value much better as well if that's a consideration.

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Posted 05 December 2017 - 05:21 AM

If you are willing to pay $4200 then it is worth it for you. My LP cost $1400.
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Posted 05 December 2017 - 05:24 AM

oh boy, nice guitar but $4,200?

Would I buy for that price? Yes, if I didn't care about money, had plenty to throw around and I couldn't resist. Otherwise, no.

Really depends on where your heart is for it. Only you know that.
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Posted 05 December 2017 - 06:43 AM

No one has encouraged you to go with it, but the value you place on it is the only thing that matters.

I'm also not fond of the colour and high flame, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Even so, if it really handled and sounded wonderful, I would likely forgive its looks and still bring it home knowing me.
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Posted 05 December 2017 - 07:01 AM

I'd be more interested to see a pic of your woman . just sayin' ...
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Posted 05 December 2017 - 08:19 AM

View PostFarnsbarns, on 05 December 2017 - 05:04 AM, said:

Quite right Pip. I've edited my post...

Oh Yeah? Well, TWO can play at THAT game...
I've edited mine as well; so there!

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Posted 05 December 2017 - 08:46 AM

View Postpippy, on 05 December 2017 - 08:19 AM, said:

Oh Yeah? Well, TWO can play at THAT game...
I've edited mine as well; so there!

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Well, I've deleted my post refering to your post, neatly highlighting the confusion caused by allowing deletion. :D
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Posted 05 December 2017 - 10:13 AM

View PostNighthawkChris, on 05 December 2017 - 08:53 AM, said:

In the US, the going rate for a LP Custom...

The guitar in the OP is not a LP Custom, Chris.
It's a LP Standard which was made by the Custom Shop division.

The confusion is all the fault of that toe-rag Farnsbarns (*).
Blame Him. He deserves it...

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Posted 05 December 2017 - 10:33 AM

View PostNighthawkChris, on 05 December 2017 - 10:18 AM, said:

No, it's my mistake. I didn't look at ad too in depth and the headstock of that LP tells me that it is not a Custom. Nonetheless, I have at least contributed a small amount of information what you might expect when you start to spend over $4k USD... NO way I pay that much for a Standard made in recent years. Not because of quality and such, but because the cost doesn't warrant the value of the guitar - and it's used.


Yeah but you paid 5,500 for a Custom. I mean "cost doesn't warrant the value of the guitar"? I paid $2,200 for my Custom and it looked basically brand new when I got it.

Besides, with almost any new Gibson LP it's going to drop a huge amount after you buy it if you buy it new. If you're looking for something that "warrants the value of the guitar" 4K+ Gibson LP sure aren't it because the minute you take possession it depreciates a large amount.

You paid 5.5K for a Custom, good luck getting 3K back for it.
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Posted 05 December 2017 - 10:33 AM

View PostNighthawkChris, on 05 December 2017 - 10:18 AM, said:

No, it's my mistake. I didn't look at ad too in depth and the headstock of that LP tells me that it is not a Custom. Nonetheless, I have at least contributed a small amount of information what you might expect when you start to spend over $4k USD... NO way I pay that much for a Standard made in recent years. Not because of quality and such, but because the cost doesn't warrant the value of the guitar - and it's used.


Yeah but you paid 5,500 for a Custom. I mean "cost doesn't warrant the value of the guitar"? I paid $2,200 for my Custom and it looked basically brand new when I got it.

Besides, with almost any new Gibson LP it's going to drop a huge amount after you buy it if you buy it new. If you're looking for something that "warrants the value of the guitar" 4K+ Gibson LP sure aren't it because the minute you take possession it depreciates a large amount.

You paid 5.5K for a Custom, good luck getting 3K back for it.
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Posted 05 December 2017 - 11:31 AM

hello guys i wanted to take the time and thank you all individually by buying you all gibson guitars of your choosings as a thank you for taking your personal time to help me..sadly the japanese hotty took my lottery winnings last night after we made out ...it was a hell of a week though and well worthy of the 35 million that i scored,,damn it i still wish she was there with me at the time though,,oh well its 35 million well spent...lol..this being lied about...i do want to thank you all for the words and advice..

hi smokey..well to be honest it was going to be for a 2 prs custom 22 and 24 trade that i do not choose to have anymore,,but the value of the 2 prs comes to 4200.but no ill pass on the trade

hey merciful..yes i see that for certain.im glad i popped in here to ask advice im seeing that a guitar like this is far from worthy of the value even if it would be kept as a final guitar

nighthawk farns pippster..thank for your help as well..i was bombed like hiroshima when i read that she is NOT a true custom?..i have seen the booklet but im assuming now that there are differences between a custom and one made by custom shop?..peace out
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Posted 05 December 2017 - 12:48 PM

View Postkolhauszer, on 05 December 2017 - 11:31 AM, said:

...I was bombed like hiroshima when i read that she is NOT a true custom?...
Im assuming now that there are differences between a custom and one made by custom shop?...

Don't confuse 'Les Paul Custom' with 'Custom Shop Les Paul'...

Without going too much into history - nor semantics - the Les Paul Standard and Les Paul Custom were two models of guitar introduced in '52 and '54 respectively. They are quite similar instruments differing in a few relatively minor details. The LP Custom was always the higher-price instrument because it had extra 'bling' in comparison to the other.

The Custom Shop is where some models of LP are crafted - as opposed to the regular 'USA-Line' who handle the vast bulk of LP production. There should be a slightly higher attention to detail paid by the luthiers / craftsmen & craftswomen in the CS and these instruments should be built with slightly more 'finesse' or, if you like, individuality. All the re-issues and Collectors Choice instruments are made by the CS - as, slightly confusingly, are the current Les Paul Custom guitars themselves.

Almost all Standards are made on the USA-line. The Standard in your OP was built by the CS - probably because it was part of a small-run series. It might well be a slightly better-built Standard than the regular USA-line Standard in the small details. Whether or not it plays and sounds better than a regular USA Standard is open to conjecture. As a CS instrument it probably does have a claim to be of intrinsically 'more value' than a USA-line guitar but this is only important to SOME folks.

Probably clear as mud, now, though?...

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Posted 05 December 2017 - 01:30 PM

View PostNighthawkChris, on 05 December 2017 - 12:55 PM, said:

Yup, new guitars depreciate immensely after purchase - no mystery there. I looked at used '68 RI LP Customs in Triburst, and they were going around $3k give or take used. What I was getting at with what you quoted me saying is that no way would I pay what I paid for my LP Custom if it were being purchased used... Value not there. I debated buying used for a few months before deciding to take advantage of the Gear Card special going on this year. With new guitar, you have warranty FWIW, 45-day return period at GC, 5% reward points, and 0% for 48-months on top of discounts on gear practically for life every time I barter with them over prices on pickups, gear, etc. because I mention how much I buy form them over the years. Whatever on this. Bottom line is if you wanted my guitar, you have to take your chances on the used market and pay all up front, or go to GC. Nowhere was this guitar available that I could find brand new for a better price that I could run across. And to boot, availability was primarily only at GC... I know Musician's Friend sold the same LP Custom I bought some time ago, and it was for same MSRP as GC I believe as you are not getting deal from this place either. Glad your LP Custom used works for you. Mine is doing fine thank you.


You’re the one who brought up not “value not warranting price”.
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