Pete'67 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 I was just browsing through the 2018 line-up. Looks like everything but a handful of standard guitars is now "Limited Run" only? E.g. the J-45 Vintage is marked as "Limited Edition". As well as the LG-2 and even the J-35. Anyone has any information on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanCarlosVejar Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Actually everything says limited run . Maybe there was a mistake in the uploading of the info. JC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vacamartin Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Actually everything says limited run . Maybe there was a mistake in the uploading of the info. JC How unusual..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete'67 Posted December 19, 2017 Author Share Posted December 19, 2017 True But when you download the pdf spec sheet of one of those Limited Runs, it says "Limited Edition" as well. How unusual..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olie Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 one can only assume that some of these garish versions don't need to be labeled "limited editions" simply due to the fact that sales numbers by themselves will see to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fsharp Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 That neon green J-45 is just appalling.It's even priced $500 higher that a Standard J-45. So, get an ugly one and pay more. Makes sense to me. Its a tossup between the neon green J-45 and the techno pink Hummingbird.Who comes up with these ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mz-s Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 I can't get behind the neon green J-45, but the olive green isn't bad - I like the white Hummingbird too. Not sure if I like either enough to consider buying them though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 People who make more money that you or I. Sad really. Listen to what the people who are buying your product wants. Oh that is right they are blinded by Henry's greed. If Henry's greedy - why is he paying his marketing people more than we make? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinder Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 The garish limiteds are really unappealing to me. If they help shift units though, job done. The big G clearly needs some business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluesKing777 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Storeman to manager:’What do you we do with all these Js we haven’t sold - we need room for the Xs?’ Manager brings it up in conference later, and asks if they can discount them to move them.... Phone rings later that day: ‘Paint ‘em up!’ Says the line manager. ‘Boss said we might sell them to the 12 - 16 year old kiddies! BluesKing777. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinder Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Storeman to manager:’What do you we do with all these Js we haven’t sold - we need room for the Xs?’ Manager brings it up in conference later, and asks if they can discount them to move them.... Phone rings later that day: ‘Paint ‘em up!’ Says the line manager. ‘Boss said we might sell them to the 12 - 16 year old kiddies! BluesKing777. Ain’t that the truth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fsharp Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 If Henry's greedy - why is he paying his marketing people more than we make? I am suspicious that they do not make more than I do. I think the problem is he isn't paying his marketing people enough! You get what you pay for and these ideas aren't worth much I can see a pink low-end $100 guitar appealing to an 8 year girl who is just starting out. I've seen them around. I just don't quite see it for a $3000 guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanCarlosVejar Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Don Ruffatto from Gibson said the custom colors were to appeal to the younger generation who are looking for something different but with classic sound. JC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAMELEYE Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 While I don't know if Gibson reads this Forum but maybe it would make sense to do a series of posts on guitars Gibson should be making, in other words, guitars we would buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Forum members develop specs for a truly marketable guitar? That has been attempted before. No consensus was reached. What we here might come up with is not what future potential purchasers of Gibson acoustic guitars would want. I am pretty sure Bozeman's marketeers have ways of finding out what the emerging first time purchasers are looking for. As far as the issue of Gibson making some outlandishly colored guitars...If you look at most products - there are usually unusual variations / colors made available for the few who would not purchase the standard version. I don't understand why some on this thread seem to take it personally that Bozeman is offering - what, maybe 2% of their total production, in some outrageous colors. Martin offers a guitar with a garish paint job that clearly and blatantly promotes legalizing pot. I could see folks getting more upset with that than a simple green or pink paint job. So - if Bozeman feels they can sell a couple of hundred guitars they would not otherwise sell, by painting them in colors that do not appeal to most - how does that actually HURT us here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fsharp Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 As far as the issue of Gibson making some outlandishly colored guitars...If you look at most products - there are usually unusual variations / colors made available for the few who would not purchase the standard version. I don't understand why some on this thread seem to take it personally that Bozeman is offering - what, maybe 2% of their total production, in some outrageous colors. Martin offers a guitar with a garish paint job that clearly and blatantly promotes legalizing pot. I could see folks getting more upset with that than a simple green or pink paint job. So - if Bozeman feels they can sell a couple of hundred guitars they would not otherwise sell, by painting them in colors that do not appeal to most - how does that actually HURT us here? You are absolutely right - if I don't like it I don't have to buy it so it doesn't hurt me. I think its more like we are questioning the sanity of the people making the decision to offer those colors. I kind of think it cheapens the entire line. I would never want a guitar with those kinds of colors but I suppose out a couple billion people on the planet, a few hundred might buy. My bet is they will be hit in Japan. They go for some awfully strange color combinations over there. For that matter I don't like super blinged out guitars either but obviously people buy those so who am I to judge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 It’s kept a few geniuses interested and reading the forum Never mind who buys or doesn’t buy them Good grief Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAMELEYE Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Probably shouldn't be commenting anyway, I only like J-45s and J-200s and now I no longer play or own any large size guitars (or Gibsons for that matter, unless you count my dobro). Good luck, Henry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimt Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 I was just browsing through the 2018 line-up. Looks like everything but a handful of standard guitars is now "Limited Run" only? E.g. the J-45 Vintage is marked as "Limited Edition". As well as the LG-2 and even the J-35. Anyone has any information on this? a decal will raise the price of the guitar over no decal.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogeye Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Might as well save your typing hand. They may read the stuff we write, but if they do it must fall on deaf ears. They better rent a storage facility to store all those colorful guitars no one is going to buy. I'll buy one of those pink H-birds, but in a nice burst. Just saw the H-bird Regal, the back is what Martin does on a D-35. Just so you know... They rented a couple of storage facilities several years ago. They are full of the regular production guitars. Gotta keep up the quota even if it means storing the excess. Here's how it works. Telemarketer: Hi dealer would you like to buy a J-45. Dealer: Sorry but I have 5 in stock now don't need any more. Do you have one in Green? No? good I'll send you one. Maybe if you keep it a couple of years it will get ripe and turn red. The Marketing Dept is staffed with folks that have never been in a music store or a guitar building facility. Most have never tuned one up and they have never read The Gibson Fab, Flat-top book. They are just kids with a marketing degree. They are based in Nashville about as far away from Bozeman as one can get and the folks in Montana have very little power over the decisions they make. They don't know who we are or how we think they just follow the Marketing 101 plan they learned in college. It might work for some consumer products but it really doesn't work all that well for guitars. Pitiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabarone Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 I had just recently gotten over the prices of the new models (4K for a Dove? They just don't want me to buy one) when now I have to get my mind around all these Miami Vice acoustics...I would like to play that Hummingbird 12 string, though...but, just what we used to call butt-ugly (hope I don't get blocked for that)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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