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#1 User is offline   gnappi 

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Posted 29 December 2017 - 02:17 AM

This is mostly for ES-333 owners who may also have or have had a 335.

I have a number of Gibson ES models, as well as ES clones in a variety of finishes. Lately I've been Jonesing for a natural ES-333 (I'm on a natural finish kick) even though I have the 335 body style (in natural) well covered with selections from a Gibson 335 figured, to other brands.

My reasons??? I guess I really want a 335 WITH the back plate so I can more easily do some pup experimentation (removing the 490R/498T OEM pups for good) of which over the years I have accumulated a number of very cool pups, none with coil taps. I guess I "could" use my Midtown custom but it doesn't have the same semi vibe the 335 body does. The other thought I have is to use one of my 335's and install QD connectors and "ultimately" thin my 335's to a level more easily stored.
Maybe I'm in the wrong place with a bunch of enablers hanging about so, for those 333 and 335 owners could you ultimately live with a 333 and forego a 335 altogether?



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Posted 29 December 2017 - 06:25 AM

I recently sold my Epi Tom DeLonge.....which was sort of an ES333.....:unsure:

It had a coil tapped Dirty Finger which worked quite well.....[thumbup]

ES'z are wonderful things.....[thumbup]

Currently having great times with an ES330 (Casino type) and ES225.....

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Posted 29 December 2017 - 07:17 AM

I have a BB King and it has a control cover. I do not understand why ES-335's do not have them. Yes the one piece back looks nice, but it is not conducive pup and pot swap out.
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Posted 30 April 2018 - 05:48 PM

Get a red Lucille Posted Image

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Posted 30 April 2018 - 11:24 PM

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Posted 21 May 2018 - 09:32 AM

In addition to my Gibsons, I have a Cort Source BV, it is an Indonesian gear, very similar in shape to the 335 but with Bigsby and P90 type pickups.
I changed the wiring because some problems with the old potentiometers, finally the luthier in charge told me, "I love the 335s but doing a maintenance is painful".
I consider that access cover behind is a great idea, may Gibson has to promote more the 333 as an option.......
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Posted 28 May 2018 - 02:07 PM

I had a 335 and somehow could not bond with it, ergo sold it.
Now a few years ago I ran into a 2004 333 and I was absolutely impressed:
it felt good and the pickups were sounding excellent. Gave them covers
and changed the knobs to reflectors.
This 333 blows many 335s out of the water.
490 and 498 pickups are smooth and crisp enough and the output is perfect.
And it has the natural finish.
The former owner carried this guitar all over the world gigging here and there.
Meanwhile we became good friends and when I tell him "lets jam some..."
he replies "but bring the 333 ! "
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Posted 09 June 2018 - 06:08 PM

View Postdc3c46, on 28 May 2018 - 02:07 PM, said:

I had a 335 and somehow could not bond with it, ergo sold it.
Now a few years ago I ran into a 2004 333 and I was absolutely impressed:
it felt good and the pickups were sounding excellent. Gave them covers
and changed the knobs to reflectors.
This 333 blows many 335s out of the water.
490 and 498 pickups are smooth and crisp enough and the output is perfect.
And it has the natural finish.
The former owner carried this guitar all over the world gigging here and there.
Meanwhile we became good friends and when I tell him "lets jam some..."
he replies "but bring the 333 ! "


The problem with 335's (IMO) is that nowadays Gibson changes pups in them like my GF changes shoes :-)

I recently got one with burst buckers (my LEAST liked of Gibson pickups) once they do that the 335 sound becomes elusive.

Many 333's have had the pups changed, I too like the 490 set, and gits that have had the pups diddled with are a no sale for me.

This post has been edited by gnappi: 09 June 2018 - 06:25 PM

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Posted 12 June 2018 - 07:31 AM

View PostWildBillMojo, on 30 April 2018 - 05:48 PM, said:

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Like mine!

Lucille front

Lucille back

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Posted 12 June 2018 - 08:58 AM

View PostWmachine, on 12 June 2018 - 07:31 AM, said:


That is nice. I got the same one in the same color. I've done a few things to mine like change the pickguard to black, put a red chicken head knob on the Varitone, and put a blank black truss rod cover on it. I really want to change everything out to chrome or nickel but don't feel like dropping that much cash for stuff that is not broke.

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 05:32 AM

View PostLP Trad Pro II, on 12 June 2018 - 08:58 AM, said:

That is nice. I got the same one in the same color. I've done a few things to mine like change the pickguard to black, put a red chicken head knob on the Varitone, and put a blank black truss rod cover on it. I really want to change everything out to chrome or nickel but don't feel like dropping that much cash for stuff that is not broke.



Actually slightly different. Mine is a 2016 model, notice the difference in the headstock. Lucille headstock I believe yours is a 2015 model? Or earlier?
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Posted 13 June 2018 - 07:54 AM

View PostWmachine, on 13 June 2018 - 05:32 AM, said:

Actually slightly different. Mine is a 2016 model, notice the difference in the headstock. Lucille headstock I believe yours is a 2015 model? Or earlier?

2009. My only complaint about the guitar is the gold hardware and the larger than life BB King on the headstock. Nowhere on this guitar, except the pots does it say Gibson on it. I like your headstock much better.

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 05:16 AM

View PostLP Trad Pro II, on 13 June 2018 - 07:54 AM, said:

2009. My only complaint about the guitar is the gold hardware and the larger than life BB King on the headstock. Nowhere on this guitar, except the pots does it say Gibson on it. I like your headstock much better.

I never noticed that your model didn't say Gibson on it, but now that you mention it, that is really strange that Gibson would do that. There may be others, but I can't even think of another Gibson that didn't have "Gibson" on the headstock. Heck, even some EPIs have "Gibson" on the headstock (truss rod cover, at least)!
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Posted 14 June 2018 - 07:35 AM

View PostWmachine, on 14 June 2018 - 05:16 AM, said:

I never noticed that your model didn't say Gibson on it, but now that you mention it, that is really strange that Gibson would do that. There may be others, but I can't even think of another Gibson that didn't have "Gibson" on the headstock. Heck, even some EPIs have "Gibson" on the headstock (truss rod cover, at least)!

I think I was told there was one or two models in the past that did not have Gibson on the headstock. I thought it was a Trini Lopez ES-355 but I looked and they have it.

I think the first Lucille's had Lucille and Gibson on the headstock, and then it went to just BB King and the Crown, then one year they made a run of colored ones named after jewels with BB King and the Crown on those (the diamond one was white, ruby was red ect. There were 6 colors in all) and now it is back to Lucille and Gibson on the HS. Wow $6999. Insane. I got mine for $2500.

http://gear-vault.co...limited-guitar/

http://www.gibson.co...ng-Lucille.aspx

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Posted 29 July 2018 - 08:14 AM

We're here to talk you INTO stuff... :rolleyes:
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Posted 29 July 2018 - 07:18 PM

So did you buy one yet er whut?
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