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D'Addario Humidapacks... they are CRAP!

#21 User is offline   kidblast 

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Posted 10 February 2018 - 08:12 AM

Update w/some interesting findings...

I started using a (trusty) dampit in the guitar I was using the Humidipaks in.

I kept the pouch in there too just to see if the moisture would reactivate these as D'Addario says they will.

After a few days one pack has returned to a liquid state, the other is improving.
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Posted 10 February 2018 - 10:31 AM

While the climate here rarely calls for one, this Oasis humidifier/hygrometer/thermometer is a good one. Simple damp sponge device, no buying refill packs. While I cannot vouch for accuracy, I don't believe that having spot-on humidity is that critical.........a little moisture when things get particularly dry is a comfort to me and seems to suit the guitars well enough. Had a stretch of low 20s overnight last month and I did put a big pot of water on a low boil in the kitchen for some added relief (for me and the guitars!). If the device is not in the guitar case, I leave it out in the room on 24/7 just to see how the numbers vary over time. Battery lasts for months. A Buc Approved device.
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Posted 11 February 2018 - 03:23 PM

hey buc!

climate here in the winter is brutal, bone dry. I have 2 Oasis tubes, the SJ200 gets one, the '06 Taylor GS Series Jumbo gets the other. I'm charging them at least every other day, or every day just topping them off.

For the Taylor Nylon, the Dampit has been doing it's job That the D'Addario packs are reactivating in that case is a good sigh, as they are supposed to grab the excess moisture as well as disperse in dry settings.

I have a new Dampit coming this week to replace the older one,, it still seems to hold moisture long enough, so I will an use that for something else. JMO, but. These really are the most effective, and easy to use, and probably safest. if a humidack or oasis tube leak, could be a disaster. although the oasis are pretty safe as long as you let it all dry, and discard the gelatin pellets and replace once a year as winter approaches.

I use soap boxes with about 16 holes drilled that have sponges cut to size that I keep damp sitting up under the head stocks in each acoustic case.

I put a hydrometer in the cases, left for few hours to get a reading of the cases.. they seem to set at around 40.. not perfect, but not 20 % RH either

Cases are closed when I'm using the guitars and they stay in those cases when not played. Action has stayed put on all 3, so I don't think the tops are moving/sinking much if at all.

another few months to go still....

This post has been edited by kidblast: 11 February 2018 - 03:30 PM

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Posted 11 February 2018 - 06:46 PM

View Postkidblast, on 11 February 2018 - 03:23 PM, said:

hey buc!

climate here in the winter is brutal, bone dry. I have 2 Oasis tubes, the SJ200 gets one, the '06 Taylor GS Series Jumbo gets the other. I'm charging them at least every other day, or every day just topping them off.

For the Taylor Nylon, the Dampit has been doing it's job That the D'Addario packs are reactivating in that case is a good sigh, as they are supposed to grab the excess moisture as well as disperse in dry settings.

I have a new Dampit coming this week to replace the older one,, it still seems to hold moisture long enough, so I will an use that for something else. JMO, but. These really are the most effective, and easy to use, and probably safest. if a humidack or oasis tube leak, could be a disaster. although the oasis are pretty safe as long as you let it all dry, and discard the gelatin pellets and replace once a year as winter approaches.

I use soap boxes with about 16 holes drilled that have sponges cut to size that I keep damp sitting up under the head stocks in each acoustic case.

I put a hydrometer in the cases, left for few hours to get a reading of the cases.. they seem to set at around 40.. not perfect, but not 20 % RH either

Cases are closed when I'm using the guitars and they stay in those cases when not played. Action has stayed put on all 3, so I don't think the tops are moving/sinking much if at all.

another few months to go still....

It's certainly a challenge for those of us who live in climates with such radical temp. and RH swings.My house can go from 70+RH in the summer and 80+ F. in the summer to less than 30RH and app. 70F in the winter. It's a lot of latitude and must take a toll on thin solid tops.I tend to tweak the truss rod a couple of times a year when these seasonal swings occur.All in all though, I think that these preventative measures are well worth the time and effort to protect our "babies".
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Posted 11 February 2018 - 06:59 PM

Geez, you could stand there with a watering can and still need more! [unsure]


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Posted 12 February 2018 - 03:19 AM

Alone, they're pretty poor in low humidity. However, i throw my oasis or a damp paper towel in with them, just defeats the purpose of maintenance-free. I live in upstate ny.
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Posted 12 February 2018 - 05:33 AM

Not sure if "maintenance free" in this climate I'm in is doable.

Olie's experience is similar to mine. With the dampit and the sponge, that seems to help. I use these everyday anyway so its not much of a hassle.
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Posted 12 February 2018 - 08:49 AM

I live in VA, where I get the worst of both worlds. Extremes range from RH up in the 70's between May and October, 20's and 30's the rest of the time.

Worse yet, my house is rather open-plan, so I don't have an enclosed music room. And even worse yet, I have mostly F-hole archtops, which preclude the use of devices you can hang into the soundhole.

To humidify my guitars in the Winter (which is the part that scares me most) the best I can do is use a combination of D'Addario Humidipacks in the case (near the headstock and near the heel) plus damp-it tubes in the F-holes. Besides getting the action a couple millimeters lower, though, I have never had problems.

The real test is one of my most prized guitars, an 1826 Lacote that I use as my nylon-string go-to. It has remained playable throughout the Winter by using the same combination--although this one has a traditional soundboard hole, so I was able to hang a plastic-encased sponge.

I know that Gibson advocates a RH between 40 and 50 (IIRC), but I have to wonder what people did throughout the history of music, with prized instruments lasting centuries nonetheless. In the end, it can become a bit of an end-in-itself obsession.
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Posted 12 February 2018 - 03:16 PM

View Postkidblast, on 11 February 2018 - 03:23 PM, said:

hey buc!

climate here in the winter is brutal, bone dry. I have 2 Oasis tubes, the SJ200 gets one, the '06 Taylor GS Series Jumbo gets the other. I'm charging them at least every other day, or every day just topping them off.

For the Taylor Nylon, the Dampit has been doing it's job That the D'Addario packs are reactivating in that case is a good sigh, as they are supposed to grab the excess moisture as well as disperse in dry settings.

I have a new Dampit coming this week to replace the older one,, it still seems to hold moisture long enough, so I will an use that for something else. JMO, but. These really are the most effective, and easy to use, and probably safest. if a humidack or oasis tube leak, could be a disaster. although the oasis are pretty safe as long as you let it all dry, and discard the gelatin pellets and replace once a year as winter approaches.

I use soap boxes with about 16 holes drilled that have sponges cut to size that I keep damp sitting up under the head stocks in each acoustic case.

I put a hydrometer in the cases, left for few hours to get a reading of the cases.. they seem to set at around 40.. not perfect, but not 20 % RH either

Cases are closed when I'm using the guitars and they stay in those cases when not played. Action has stayed put on all 3, so I don't think the tops are moving/sinking much if at all.

another few months to go still....





Just wondering what guitar cases you are using?

My Paks last great because we have 3 days humid, wind turns and 3 days dry, 1 day hot, 2 cold, 5 wet, 7 .....you get the pic?

But one of my guitars, OM-A, is stored in a top of the line Hiscox Artist, and it is a fair bit insulating - I often pull the guitar out and it is still in tune...after all those weather changes! Guitars in lesser insulated Hiscox Pro II models not so.... And in the ordinary cases, miles out of tune..... [mellow]

Could be worth trying an Artist case?



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Posted 13 February 2018 - 05:45 AM

hey BK..


Using the standard brown tolex, dark red interior.

My rational at this point is the guitar was dry to start with, so it sucked all the moisture out of the packs. They are just about back to a more liquid state
with the Dampit and the soap-box humidfier at the headstock pocket. Leaving the packs in too, since they should hold any excess moisture.
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 09:11 AM

I've had great success with the packs. I'm in Southern Ontario, Canada and certainly it's extreme dry here during winter months. forced air heating doesn't help either.

Not sure if OP mentioned but is the room the guitars are stored humidified?

I have all my guitars in their cases in one room. Humidipacks in the cases and the room has a humidifier. Never had any issues. The packs last for quite some time.
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 11:46 AM

View Postdjw171, on 13 February 2018 - 09:11 AM, said:

I've had great success with the packs. I'm in Southern Ontario, Canada and certainly it's extreme dry here during winter months. forced air heating doesn't help either.

Not sure if OP mentioned but is the room the guitars are stored humidified?

I have all my guitars in their cases in one room. Humidipacks in the cases and the room has a humidifier. Never had any issues. The packs last for quite some time.



The OP is from me. No humidification in the storage room/closet, Although I think next year, I am going to try and sort that out and some how get a small room humidifier in there, it's a closet that I had setup to hold about 20 guitars, (maybe 8feet deep, 5feet wide.) it would be easy to keep that area controlled.

I do keep them cased when not in use..
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 03:56 PM

I use an oasys hanging under the humidipaks in the winter and humidipaks only in the summer. I normally add water to the oasys once a week. I have forced hot air here on Long Island and the humidity gauge hasn't broken 30 since November. The paks last a year but it's not maintenance free. I just assume the paks and the oasys do a better job at buffering than just the oasiys and I don't worry if I'm gone for 1 or 2 weeks.
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Posted 14 February 2018 - 07:49 AM

does seem that doubling up on the devices in tandem with the packs helps.

I have to recant "they suck" because, they actually seem to work as prescribed.
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