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#1 User is offline   E-minor7 

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Posted 15 February 2018 - 12:39 AM

Here's something a little different. One of Fahey's complicated and slightly alternative tunes. But listen to the guitar - and look at it.
A highly intriguing 1939 rosewood Larson Bros. with lots of soul and vibration. Big and curvy it is, but notice how the boom stays exactly on the right side of the line.
Plenty of bass yet generally clear and defined and with an action ideal for this kind of expression.

The film is over 8 minutes long and it's almost as if the guitar gets warmed up during the track. Eeehh, maybe it's the player's fingers.

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Posted 15 February 2018 - 01:50 AM

Very cool! Great tone and playing.
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Posted 15 February 2018 - 09:38 AM

Dylan used to play a Larson Bros. Prairie State jumbo. You want a Larson Bros. guitar these days you had better be prepared to dig deep into your pockets.
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Posted 15 February 2018 - 02:42 PM

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Dylan used to play a Larson Bros. Prairie State jumbo. You want a Larson Bros. guitar these days you had better be prepared to dig deep into your pockets.

Indeed! Y'all probably know this, but Tony Klassen at ARK New Era Guitars does his take on the Prairie State Jumbo. Not cheap either, but less than vintage.

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1974 Martin D-28
Frankenstein 1948 Gibson J-50 Body/1938 L-00 Neck
1945 Epiphone Triumph Archtop
2008 Martin 000-18 Norman Blake
2013 Martin 00-DB Jeff Tweedy
2010 Larrivee Forum IV (00 All Mahogany 12 Fretter))
1972 Guild Killdeer F112-6 Part Deux (Name Created by adorshki on LTG)
2016 Halcyon NL-00 Lutz/Walnut
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Posted 16 February 2018 - 05:53 AM

I love the work of the Larson brothers. Here's my collection:

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I often don't favor the sound of rosewood steel string guitars. But, I love the Larsons' rosewood guitars. The reasons, I believe, are due to 2 design traits: 1) the highly radiused tops and backs and 2) laminated braces (usually just the X braces, but on occasion, all braces) composed of spruce/rosewood/spruce. These two traits brighten the sound and increase sustain.

You can read my Fretboard Journal story about the Larsons and their instruments here.

To illustrate, here's my comparison of 2 000 size guitars: 1920 Larson Maurer 551 and 1929 Martin 000-28:


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Posted 16 February 2018 - 06:13 AM

Wonderful tone and sustain in both of those guitars. The Larson Brothers guitar seems to have bit more projection and balance, with a powerful but warm (not boomy) bass.

That's a perfect tune and picking style to show off a rosewood OOO.
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Posted 16 February 2018 - 06:59 AM

View Postj45nick, on 16 February 2018 - 06:13 AM, said:

Wonderful tone and sustain in both of those guitars. The Larson Brothers guitar seems to have bit more projection and balance, with a powerful but warm (not boomy) bass.

That's a perfect tune and picking style to show off a rosewood OOO.

Thanks, Nick!

I think that my Zoom recorder reproduced the tones of the guitars pretty accurately. And, your comment about "projection and balance" reinforces that belief. What I've enjoyed about posting that comparison is that folks have clear, and differing, preferences. Some of us like projection and balance, others prefer the warmth of the Martin. I'm just happy that I prefer the tone of the guitar that costs a fourth or fifth of what the other costs! :)
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Posted 16 February 2018 - 10:46 AM

View Postjt, on 16 February 2018 - 05:53 AM, said:

To illustrate, here's my comparison of 2 000 size guitars: 1920 Larson Maurer 551 and 1929 Martin 000-28:


Thanx for dealing these 2 aces - sound good and I'm sure they are even better live. Quite difficult to rate one above the other.
Beginning to like the Larsons for more than their looks, , , and Triple-0's can be down-right fantastic.

Played 2 all-hog Marts from the 15 series today. Maaaan, they were good right from the shop-wall (would need to hear them without Lifespan strings).
Yet when I came home my April 2012 Bird with real old steel flew even higher.

Found out that if I had the room and doe, my # of acoustics would rise to 75, , , or let's calm it and say 66.
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Posted 16 February 2018 - 10:51 AM

View Postbayoubengal1954, on 15 February 2018 - 02:42 PM, said:

Indeed! Y'all probably know this, but Tony Klassen at ARK New Era Guitars does his take on the Prairie State Jumbo. Not cheap either, but less than vintage.

Nice find. There is so much guitar there. .

You just can't keep coincidences down. .
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Posted 16 February 2018 - 11:37 AM

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[font="Times New Roman"][size="4"]Nice find. There is so much guitar there. .


For sure. He has a Crooked Star line of the PS with less bling at a more affordable price.
FWIW there is a 2016 for sale at Lark Street for $2500.


https://www.gbase.co...oked-star-2016-

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1974 Martin D-28
Frankenstein 1948 Gibson J-50 Body/1938 L-00 Neck
1945 Epiphone Triumph Archtop
2008 Martin 000-18 Norman Blake
2013 Martin 00-DB Jeff Tweedy
2010 Larrivee Forum IV (00 All Mahogany 12 Fretter))
1972 Guild Killdeer F112-6 Part Deux (Name Created by adorshki on LTG)
2016 Halcyon NL-00 Lutz/Walnut
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Posted 16 February 2018 - 02:05 PM

View Postjt, on 16 February 2018 - 05:53 AM, said:

I love the work of the Larson brothers. Here's my collection:

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I often don't favor the sound of rosewood steel string guitars. But, I love the Larsons' rosewood guitars. The reasons, I believe, are due to 2 design traits: 1) the highly radiused tops and backs and 2) laminated braces (usually just the X braces, but on occasion, all braces) composed of spruce/rosewood/spruce. These two traits brighten the sound and increase sustain.

You can read my Fretboard Journal story about the Larsons and their instruments here.

To illustrate, here's my comparison of 2 000 size guitars: 1920 Larson Maurer 551 and 1929 Martin 000-28:



Very cool, jt! The article was a great read as well.
1974 Martin D-28
Frankenstein 1948 Gibson J-50 Body/1938 L-00 Neck
1945 Epiphone Triumph Archtop
2008 Martin 000-18 Norman Blake
2013 Martin 00-DB Jeff Tweedy
2010 Larrivee Forum IV (00 All Mahogany 12 Fretter))
1972 Guild Killdeer F112-6 Part Deux (Name Created by adorshki on LTG)
2016 Halcyon NL-00 Lutz/Walnut
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Posted 16 February 2018 - 04:09 PM

View Postbayoubengal1954, on 16 February 2018 - 02:05 PM, said:

Very cool, jt! The article was a great read as well.

Thanks for the kind words!

As good as that 000 sized Larson is, its little sister, a matching 00-sized Larson, is even better:


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