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#1 User is offline   iluvcrap2000 

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Posted 16 February 2018 - 04:47 PM

like one of these https://reverb.com/i...ith-speed-knobs

I've used a prewire aftermarket harness before, but these new pcb boards are new. Any thoughts?
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Posted 16 February 2018 - 05:37 PM

Personally if I were going to replace a PCB board it would be with normal wiring and soldered pots rather than another board.

But thats me...
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Posted 17 February 2018 - 08:57 AM

???

Buy 4 CTS potentiometers and 2 PIO capacitors.
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Posted 17 February 2018 - 11:23 AM

A lot of people are anti-PCB on their guitars, then plug into pedals that have PCBs (even if it's just a tuner) and amps that have huge PCB boards. Weird.

Guitars with active electronics which have PCBs have existed for decades and they are fine.
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Posted 17 February 2018 - 12:45 PM

Controls on a guitar work like a preampli, very low current. level control and -6 dB/octave passive crossover. That kind of circuit work very well on a PCB, no problem. For service only this is not the best choice
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Posted 17 February 2018 - 12:50 PM

Im not anti PBC at all.. I have one in my 2010 standard and have no thoughts of changing it for anything.. While its all working ok...

If it ever stops working I will just put normal pots and stuff in cos its easier.. nothing else.
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Posted 17 February 2018 - 12:56 PM

I this case I personally would not wire a Jimmy Page setup even though I have experience soldering. Just too much going on.

Having said that the price is pretty steep.

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 01:03 PM

So why would you swap your original with that aftermarket one? I don't get it.
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Posted 17 February 2018 - 01:05 PM

View PostLeonard McCoy, on 17 February 2018 - 01:03 PM, said:

So why would you swap your original with that aftermarket one? I don't get it.

Cos the one he is looking at is a Jimmy Page wiring setup one rather than a standard one.

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 02:28 PM

View PostRabs, on 17 February 2018 - 01:05 PM, said:

Cos the one he is looking at is a Jimmy Page wiring setup one rather than a standard one.

no I was browsing reverb for parts. Stumbled upon this, thought about upgrading my pcb with a aftermarket harness as I really don't use the true bypass and the pots aren't as sensitive as I'd like. I can't tell the differance with the coil taps and the out of phase isn't as keen. Interesting someone is making a aftermarket pcb with these features, would like to see if it's any good. Looks like some quality work from the pictures and info. The manufacturer says it's a true drop in to Gibson les paul with no mods for it to work so that's a relief. Would like to hear the true differance between the burstbucker coil splits vs the taps. anyway thanks for the opinions.
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Posted 17 February 2018 - 02:29 PM

Have a look to 920D, Switchcraft and CTS components :

https://www.ebay.com...=item1a1b0888f7


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Posted 18 February 2018 - 12:57 AM

View PostRevolution Six, on 17 February 2018 - 02:29 PM, said:

Have a look to 920D, Switchcraft and CTS components :

https://www.ebay.com...=item1a1b0888f7


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I've gotten two harnesses from Jersey shore guitar garage, thanks
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Posted 18 February 2018 - 07:15 AM

Just know what kind of wiring the harness has. For instance, those Jersey shore harnesses - they said something about how they are supposedly wired 50's style. Fifties style wiring is not very versatile. On some guitars it won't even find the sweet spot. So just know what you're getting into. [thumbup]
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Posted 18 February 2018 - 05:25 PM

View PostRevolution Six, on 17 February 2018 - 02:29 PM, said:

Have a look to 920D, Switchcraft and CTS components :

https://www.ebay.com...=item1a1b0888f7


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that's insanely tidy looking. when i wire stuff, it looks like your hair might, when you wake up drunk

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 05:30 PM

View Postamerican cheez, on 18 February 2018 - 05:25 PM, said:

that's insanely tidy looking. when i wire stuff, it looks like your hair might, when you wake up drunk

This is what mine looks like.. Not too neat.. Not too messy.. Somewhere in between I think

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 08:30 PM

I would use really heavy pots and thick wires to counterweight the neck dive.

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Posted 21 February 2018 - 04:54 PM

View PostRabs, on 16 February 2018 - 05:37 PM, said:

Personally if I were going to replace a PCB board it would be with normal wiring and soldered pots rather than another board.

But thats me...


Yes. I did on a SG I had when I swapped pups.
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Posted 11 March 2018 - 01:47 AM

ok, had to pull the trigger, ebay had a 20% off deal so I got one of their mk2 JPM2 Black boards, https://reverb.com/s...iniaengineering for $148. Very fash shipping(helps if your in same city as well). Got it today and decided to put it in. Read the included instructions to not damage your shafts. The old PCB came out pretty easy and the new one was effortless to put in. Noticed a Huge Difference in tone. The old Coil taps were out(I couldn't hear much of a differance), now their are splits and are more noticable. the old bypass is now a seris/parallel. otherwise think it's more flexible then it was.
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Posted 11 March 2018 - 02:21 PM

View Postiluvcrap2000, on 11 March 2018 - 01:47 AM, said:

ok, had to pull the trigger, ebay had a 20% off deal so I got one of their mk2 JPM2 Black boards, https://reverb.com/s...iniaengineering for $148. Very fash shipping(helps if your in same city as well). Got it today and decided to put it in. Read the included instructions to not damage your shafts. The old PCB came out pretty easy and the new one was effortless to put in. Noticed a Huge Difference in tone. The old Coil taps were out(I couldn't hear much of a differance), now their are splits and are more noticable. the old bypass is now a seris/parallel. otherwise think it's more flexible then it was.


Do you just need to wire it up and it will have all the JP features?
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Posted 12 March 2018 - 12:04 AM

View PostFZ Fan, on 11 March 2018 - 02:21 PM, said:

Do you just need to wire it up and it will have all the JP features?

Just plug all the plugs back into it, screw the ground wire down, that's it. Taking the speed knobs off and not yanking the shafts out as per their warning(on original board), was carefully done, otherwise it was fairly easy. no soldering required, no battery pack, done less then 10 minutes(had to adjust the pot nut base height to fit your own top width otherwise).

I have to dig my amp out and crack it to see how this thing reacts, running it through amplitube/headphones doesn't give me the full tone.
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