davenumber2 Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 Has Bozeman ever done a reissue of the round-shouldered Country Western? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard McCoy Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 Round-shouldered? You mean square-shouldered—they did in 2016 (link). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenumber2 Posted May 5, 2018 Author Share Posted May 5, 2018 No, I mean round shouldered. The CW was originally round shouldered and was changed to square in the early sixties. I am aware of the Sheryl Crow model and other square shouldered reissues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 Is that not a j50 ? Sorry , not arguing , just wondering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard McCoy Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 No, I mean round shouldered. The CW was originally round shouldered and was changed to square in the early sixties. I am aware of the Sheryl Crow model and other square shouldered reissues. As I'm sure you're well aware of, they've continued to reissue the Southern Jumbo since its reintroduction in 1991. The 2018 model looks excellent by the way, it's no natural top though. Was that a trick question? Did we all fail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenumber2 Posted May 5, 2018 Author Share Posted May 5, 2018 The CW was a natural version of the Southern Jumbo as the J-50 is the natural version of the J-45. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 Cool. Learn something new every day I don’t need to worry until tomorrow now Any other differences in CW vs J50 other than the block fretboard inlays ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenumber2 Posted May 5, 2018 Author Share Posted May 5, 2018 Cool. Learn something new every day I don’t need to worry until tomorrow now Any other differences in CW vs J50 other than the block fretboard inlays ? The neck is also bound. There may be other minor cosmetic differences but I'm no expert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 The neck is also bound. There may be other minor cosmetic differences but I'm no expert. Cheers. Nice lookin guitar Can see why you might want one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 Knowing Gibson they probably call it an SJ natural. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
62burst Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 Cool. Learn something new every day I don’t need to worry until tomorrow now One and done, that's my motto. If you have to have a motto. The neck is also bound. There may be other minor cosmetic differences but I'm no expert. A favorite feature might be the "lasso" label . . . captures the 50's Cowboy movie era so well: Emin7 mentioned that the CW's tended to be fitted with a thinner pickguard (a good thing). Saw the watermark on the photo- John S of True Vintage is a member here on the forum (tvguit), but not active of late. Always has nice guitars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scriv58 Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 never seen a reissue but here's my original bought in nashville last summer http://guitars.com/inventory/ag6471-1957-gibson-country-western Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 Knowing Gibson they probably call it an SJ natural. I believe that's actually what they called it before adopting the CW moniker. It really is just an SJ with a natural top. I think the CW designation was adopted around 1956 or so, as was the unique CW soundhole label with the rope around the label. One of the best mid-50's slope J Gibsons I've played was Ol' Fred's '56 or '57 CW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 I believe that's actually what they called it before adopting the CW moniker. It really is just an SJ with a natural top. I think the CW designation was adopted around 1956 or so, as was the unique CW soundhole label with the rope around the label. One of the best mid-50's slope J Gibsons I've played was Ol' Fred's '56 or '57 CW. Yeah, the CW label came later. Coincidentally my second favorite Gibson of all time was a 1956 SJ. This guitar had acquired the reputation as the one to beat to the point whenever the owner of the local store got in a 1950s mahogany body Gibson or Martin I had to being it in so he could do a shoot out. In all the years I owned the SJ it walked away the favorite only being tied once - and that was by a certain 1951 Martin D-18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dash_Starkiller Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 I believe there was a reissue of the classic 1958 round shoulder through the Fullers guitar shop. https://reverb.com/item/1323796-gibson-country-western-reissue-2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 A favorite feature might be the "lasso" label . . . captures the 50's Cowboy movie era so well: Emin7 mentioned that the CW's tended to be fitted with a thinner pickguard (a good thing). Ooh, the good ol' lasso-label is a charmer. But regarding thickness of the guards I'm only talking squares. And in that department the CW S. Crow follows the thin ways of the first-wave 60's ancestors. Keep wondering btw. why the 50's guards like the one seen above have the privilege of bein' called bat-wings as the 3-point guard known from the 'modern' square trio - Hummingbird, Southern Jumbo, Country Western - is so much more bat-sharp. Guess it's a matter of timing. And no - I don't think Bozeman ever reproduced a slope shouldered CW. Good idea though. Again - might be a matter of timing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 I believe there was a reissue of the classic 1958 round shoulder through the Fullers guitar shop. https://reverb.com/item/1323796-gibson-country-western-reissue-2007 That's a nice one. Fuller's does (did) great re-issues, like my 1943 SJ. That particular CW has the cherry-stained back and sides. Some of the originals were cherry, others were a medium walnut stain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dash_Starkiller Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 That's a nice one. Fuller's does (did) great re-issues, like my 1943 SJ. That particular CW has the cherry-stained back and sides. Some of the originals were cherry, others were a medium walnut stain. Yea the red does stand out a lot. I do prefer the darker stain. Seems like a good price it sold for though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-1854Me Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Bozeman DID do a round-shouldered CW re-issue, if nothing else, at least for Fuller's Guitar. I think they called it a "1958 Country Western". For all I know they did some for the Japanese dealers too, but my memory's a bit rusty on that. I know I've seen the Fuller's, and I have photos of one from 2006. If I could figure out a decent photo-hosting site, I'd post a pic. Fred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 I believe there was a reissue of the classic 1958 round shoulder through the Fullers guitar shop. https://reverb.com/i...rn-reissue-2007 Pardon - I should have noticed this. Bozeman DID do a round-shouldered CW re-issue, if nothing else, at least for Fuller's Guitar. I think they called it a "1958 Country Western". For all I know they did some for the Japanese dealers too, but my memory's a bit rusty on that. I know I've seen the Fuller's, and I have photos of one from 2006. If I could figure out a decent photo-hosting site, I'd post a pic. Fred But there can't be many. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FemmeParallell Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 No, I mean round shouldered. The CW was originally round shouldered and was changed to square in the early sixties. I am aware of the Sheryl Crow model and other square shouldered reissues. im a sucker for CW and i didnt know Sheryl had one, oh my! i recently saw someone selling a J-15 with a western pickguard but its no the same without the parallelogram inlays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 im a sucker for CW and i didnt know Sheryl had one, oh my! i recently saw someone selling a J-15 with a western pickguard but its no the same without the parallelogram inlays Crow is pretty famous for the (I think 1962) square Country Western. Actually so much that Bozeman offered a signature model in the late 90's. Here you have the original (not her) quite naked. There are other acoustic clips of this oldie to be Tube-found. Enjoy - 2008 ~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHgq8GLbXTs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FemmeParallell Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Crow is pretty famous for the (I think 1962) square Country Western. Actually so much that Bozeman offered a signature model in the late 90's. Here you have the original (not her) quite naked. There are other acoustic clips of this oldie to be Tube-found. Enjoy - 2008 ~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHgq8GLbXTs Thank you for the vid! i've listened to her music since i was little but oddly enough i've never payed attention to her guitars!! (DONT KNOW WHY) that '62 is a beauty now in addition to a hummingbird i will also want one of these haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Thank you for the vid! i've listened to her music since i was little but oddly enough i've never payed attention to her guitars!! (DONT KNOW WHY) that '62 is a beauty now in addition to a hummingbird i will also want one of these haha Here's a closer cleaner look - brief though. Always interesting when there is an opportunity to zoom in and actually hear what we have heard on recordings for so long. This clip shows a fine definitely vintage sounding, yet rather tight not big or boomy at all old CW. Check 2:37 2016 ~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEwGYtHQBpE No need to say the original adjustable saddle has been fixed. But I underline again : It makes the guitars more conventional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FemmeParallell Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Here's a closer cleaner look - brief though. Always interesting when there is an opportunity to zoom in and actually hear what we have heard on recordings for so long. This clip shows a fine definitely vintage sounding, yet rather tight not big or boomy at all old CW. Check 2:37 2016 ~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEwGYtHQBpE No need to say the original adjustable saddle has been fixed. But I underline again : It makes the guitars more conventional. ohh nice! cool guitars, cool house, cool truck, cool everything! hehe thank you very much for sharing this vid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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