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Gibson Custom 1977 Is this original?

#1 User is offline   Jorrege 

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Posted 11 June 2018 - 07:58 AM

Hello,
I'm thinking of buying a 1977 Les Paul Custom.
Does this seem all original?
Thanks!

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Posted 11 June 2018 - 02:30 PM

Hum... I thing it is a real Gibson but not easy with small pictures.
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Posted 11 June 2018 - 04:23 PM

Just tap on the pictures and they become bigger.

I see a volute , which is typical of a Norlin era Gibson.

There are way better experts than my poor skills but I'll say its real

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Posted 12 June 2018 - 10:10 AM

Everything looks correct for the period although whether all the fittings are those originally installed by the factory is impossible to discern from pictures.
My main doubts would centre on the relative lack of tarnishing to the gold hardware for a 41 year old guitar but if it was well cared-for it could be all-original.

I wasn't 100% sure about the black mirror knobs but I've just checked with a source-book and, yes, those are correct for 1977.

Pip.

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#5 User is offline   kidblast 

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Posted 12 June 2018 - 10:31 AM

jaysus that is in what appears to be incredible condition.

I would have the same question pip does. The lack of tarnish, if all original, is remarkable.

What's the fret wear look like? may have been a case queen...

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 03:30 PM

Looks original, but i also dont see any wear on the neck. Is it possible for you to see the electronics?
i have a 76 black beauty and looks exactly the same but with a little bit more wear on the neck and the hardware
It would help to see more detailed pictures

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#7 User is offline   Wild Bill 212 

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 04:06 PM

Is this one of the 'Pancake' or should I say 'Multi-piece' Body Models? They were disconitnued right about the time this Model was produced and could be a way to identify it. A simple phone-call to GIBSON would be a good idea too, I've done this on occassion and they're pretty helpful with ID'ing Axe's. The Serial #'s went to the YDDDYRRR in 1977, so it should have the # 7 in the 1st and 5th position of an 8 digit serilal #, and from the picture it looks like there are 7's in the correct positions, check. The HEADSTOCK also has a binding which is correct, check and double-cut Diamond logo, check ! A good point is made about 'ORIGINAL' parts still being on the Guitar being kinda almost impossible to tell.

My NON-Professional opinion, it is a 1977 GIBSON 'Les Paul' CUSTOM, in good shape too, ROCKIN' .

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Posted 15 June 2018 - 03:00 AM

View PostWild Bill 212, on 14 June 2018 - 04:06 PM, said:

...Is this one of the 'Pancake' or should I say 'Multi-piece' Body Models? They were disconitnued right about the time this Model was produced...

Curious...
According to Tony Bacon in his "The Les Paul Guitar Book" the 'cross-banding' (Pancake) method was abandoned in circa '73. He is quite clearly in error as Pancake bodies were still being made until (as you say) '77. Just goes to show one should never believe everything one reads even in highly-regarded source-books!

BTW; I forgot to mention the other day that the guitar in the OP has (Dunlop?) straplocks fitted...if that matters at all.

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Posted 17 June 2018 - 07:10 AM

View Postpippy, on 15 June 2018 - 03:00 AM, said:

Curious...
According to Tony Bacon in his "The Les Paul Guitar Book" the 'cross-banding' (Pancake) method was abandoned in circa '73. He is quite clearly in error as Pancake bodies were still being made until (as you say) '77. Just goes to show one should never believe everything one reads even in highly-regarded source-books!

BTW; I forgot to mention the other day that the guitar in the OP has (Dunlop?) straplocks fitted...if that matters at all.

Pip.


Who knows??? I would rather go to GIBSON with questions about original equipment/Historical facts about specific Guitars and things llike that than books by 'EXPERT''s, but I have yet to see a comprehensive 'BLUE 'BOOK' by GIBSON. Have they published one ? if so... I'd like to see it.

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