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#1 User is offline   axuality 

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Posted 28 June 2018 - 01:01 PM

A few years ago, I bought a 339 and it came with a black book that said Custom Shop. There was a decal or something on the back of the head saying Custom Shop. The guitar case said Gibson Custom on it. It was made in the Custom Shop. Every bit of documentation said it online too.

(I'm not talking about Studio models here either)--- On the newer 339 none of these things exist. No decal, no guitar case with Custom on it, no black book with custom on it.

What's the deal???? Aren't they made in the Custom Shop any more?

I want to buy another one, but I can't figure out what Gibson's doing !!:""#$@%$&#$@# ?????

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Posted 28 June 2018 - 11:36 PM

Hey Aux;

From what I can see the 339 is regular Memphis production these days and no longer Custom Shop.
That said, I haven’t read any negatives about these Memphis builds.

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Posted 30 June 2018 - 05:09 PM

The 339's are made in Memphis which IS part of the Custom Shop just in a different location. Memphis Custom Shop. The changes you mentioned are mainly because the first run of 500 339's had the decal and the booklet. Over the years as part of cost savings, those things were cut. If you are looking at a 339, it is a Custom Shop build in Memphis. To my knowledge, there has only been one 339 made in Nashville.
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Posted 30 June 2018 - 06:50 PM

View PostCR9, on 30 June 2018 - 05:09 PM, said:

The 339's are made in Memphis which IS part of the Custom Shop just in a different location. Memphis Custom Shop. The changes you mentioned are mainly because the first run of 500 339's had the decal and the booklet. Over the years as part of cost savings, those things were cut. If you are looking at a 339, it is a Custom Shop build in Memphis. To my knowledge, there has only been one 339 made in Nashville.

No, there is no Custom Shop at Memphis, just Nashville. The full answer is covered at other forums where the OP ask the same question. Years ago things were different, but the BL is the Custom Shop is Nashville only.
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Posted 01 July 2018 - 01:58 PM

Either way, the 339's are made in the same shop, Memphis, as the original run that had the decals.
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Posted 03 July 2018 - 08:47 AM

View PostCR9, on 30 June 2018 - 05:09 PM, said:

The 339's are made in Memphis which IS part of the Custom Shop just in a different location. Memphis Custom Shop. The changes you mentioned are mainly because the first run of 500 339's had the decal and the booklet. Over the years as part of cost savings, those things were cut. If you are looking at a 339, it is a Custom Shop build in Memphis. To my knowledge, there has only been one 339 made in Nashville.


what year did the first ran came out? 2009???
i have a 2011 one and it still comes with the Custom shop decal

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Posted 08 July 2018 - 02:25 AM

View PostFemmeParallell, on 03 July 2018 - 08:47 AM, said:

what year did the first ran came out? 2009???

If I recall correctly, the 339 was first released in 2007, and sold for $1799.

I have a 2009 with all the Custom Shop bling. The price had just jumped up to $1999, but I found one at the old price, and got another 15% off, so the final cost was $1529 out the door!
> Gibsons: '22 "A" Mandolin / '66 ES 125T / '66 Epi FT-45n Cortez (B-25) / '90 Tennessean
'00 J-100 Xtra / '02 J-45 Rosewood / '02 SG Faded-moon / '09 ES 339 / '10 ES 330L
'11 ES 335-P90s / '12 ES 330 VOS / '12 LP Special / '12 J-185
'13 LG2-AE / '13 Midtown Kalamazoo / '14 J-15 / '15 J-50 CS
> Epiphones: '00 AIUSA-John Lee Hooker 1964 Sheraton / '05 McCartney 1964 Texan (Terada)
'09 Elitist 1965 Casino / > Ibanez: '81 M-340 / > Breedlove: '10 American Series OO Mandolin
> Guilds: '73 F-30R / '74 F-40 / '76 G-37 / '92 D-6 / '94 JF-30 / '97 Starfire / '14 Savoy A-150b
> Martins: '00 OOO-16 / '01 Custom Rosewood Dreadnought
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Posted 11 July 2018 - 03:22 PM

View Postbobouz, on 08 July 2018 - 02:25 AM, said:

If I recall correctly, the 339 was first released in 2007, and sold for $1799.

I have a 2009 with all the Custom Shop bling. The price had just jumped up to $1999, but I found one at the old price, and got another 15% off, so the final cost was $1529 out the door!





Awesome, you were lucky! :)
thanks for the info
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Posted 17 July 2018 - 08:35 PM

My ES-339 2012 still had the CS decal and a CS 2012 xxxxx serial number. The case also said Gibson Customs.
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Posted 28 July 2018 - 07:14 AM

View PostWmachine, on 30 June 2018 - 06:50 PM, said:

No, there is no Custom Shop at Memphis, just Nashville. The full answer is covered at other forums where the OP ask the same question. Years ago things were different, but the BL is the Custom Shop is Nashville only.


There's a little confusion about the Memphis "Custom Shop" vs. the Nashville Custom Shop. There's been "Custom Shop" guitars coming out of the Memphis plant for awhile. Anyway, I had a 2007 model 339. It had the "Custom" decal and the case. Great guitar!!

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Posted 29 July 2018 - 07:35 PM

View Postbadbluesplayer, on 28 July 2018 - 07:14 AM, said:

There's a little confusion about the Memphis "Custom Shop" vs. the Nashville Custom Shop. There's been "Custom Shop" guitars coming out of the Memphis plant for awhile. Anyway, I had a 2007 model 339. It had the "Custom" decal and the case. Great guitar!!

There is good reason for that confusion, as Gibson essentially caused it. The Memphis plant started in 2000 and apparently had a fair number of Nashville Custom shop employees there in the beginning. And though there was really was no and is still no Custom Shop there, some of their guitars they called Custom Shop and, as you have, Custom Shop labeled cases. But none of the Memphis made are actually numbered Custom Shop models. From what I've been able to gather, this labeling ceased after about 2009. But traces of this still exist, as my BB King Lucille is a 2016 model made in the first part of 2017 and says "Gibson Custom" on the case.

So one could say there are Memphis Custom Shop guitars that were not made in a/the Custom Shop.

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Posted 30 July 2018 - 02:36 AM

I have a 2010 ES 335 that has both Custom on the case and a Custom certificate. when I asked Gibson about it they said:

"Actually, the serial number on your guitar is correct for this model. It refers to a ES-335 Plain in Cherry finish, nickel hardware, made in 2010 in Memphis US as part of the Custom Shop series."

It's always been a bit of a mystery to me.


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Posted 30 July 2018 - 05:17 AM

View PostIanHenry, on 30 July 2018 - 02:36 AM, said:

I have a 2010 ES 335 that has both Custom on the case and a Custom certificate. when I asked Gibson about it they said:

"Actually, the serial number on your guitar is correct for this model. It refers to a ES-335 Plain in Cherry finish, nickel hardware, made in 2010 in Memphis US as part of the Custom Shop series."

It's always been a bit of a mystery to me.

Ian


Thanks for adding that. This is the first that I heard them called "Custom Shop Series", but that makes sense. At least as much sense as could be made with that odd designation. Yeah Gibson really muddied the waters with that.
Never the less, they are still really good guitars regardless of what they call them.
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Posted 30 July 2018 - 12:20 PM

View PostWmachine, on 29 July 2018 - 07:35 PM, said:

But none of the Memphis made are actually numbered Custom Shop models.

The above info is incorrect.

Both my 2009 ES-339, and my 2010 ES-330L have a Custom Shop (CS) serial number that differs from Gibson's standard serial number sequence. Both were made in Memphis.

For each guitar, the CS serial number appears on the headstock & label, and they both have the CS logo on the back of the headstock, as well as the custom-logo case & COA.

The 339 carried a CS serial number for a number of years after it's initial release in 2007, while the ES-330L had a CS serial number throughout the length of it's production run.
> Gibsons: '22 "A" Mandolin / '66 ES 125T / '66 Epi FT-45n Cortez (B-25) / '90 Tennessean
'00 J-100 Xtra / '02 J-45 Rosewood / '02 SG Faded-moon / '09 ES 339 / '10 ES 330L
'11 ES 335-P90s / '12 ES 330 VOS / '12 LP Special / '12 J-185
'13 LG2-AE / '13 Midtown Kalamazoo / '14 J-15 / '15 J-50 CS
> Epiphones: '00 AIUSA-John Lee Hooker 1964 Sheraton / '05 McCartney 1964 Texan (Terada)
'09 Elitist 1965 Casino / > Ibanez: '81 M-340 / > Breedlove: '10 American Series OO Mandolin
> Guilds: '73 F-30R / '74 F-40 / '76 G-37 / '92 D-6 / '94 JF-30 / '97 Starfire / '14 Savoy A-150b
> Martins: '00 OOO-16 / '01 Custom Rosewood Dreadnought
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Posted 30 July 2018 - 02:12 PM

View Postbobouz, on 30 July 2018 - 12:20 PM, said:

The above info is incorrect.

Both my 2009 ES-339, and my 2010 ES-330L have a Custom Shop (CS) serial number that differs from Gibson's standard serial number sequence. Both were made in Memphis.

For each guitar, the CS serial number appears on the headstock & label, and they both have the CS logo on the back of the headstock, as well as the custom-logo case & COA.

The 339 carried a CS serial number for a number of years after it's initial release in 2007, while the ES-330L had a CS serial number throughout the length of it's production run.

Thanks, Bob. I assume you mean serial numbers that start with "CS". I had seen ones that didn't and made the mistake of assuming!
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Posted 31 July 2018 - 02:47 AM

View PostWmachine, on 30 July 2018 - 02:12 PM, said:

Thanks, Bob. I assume you mean serial numbers that start with "CS".

Yes, the serial numbers are:

> CS9022X for the '09 ES-339
> CS05136X for the '10 ES-330L

I was told that the first number designates the model year.

Beyond that, I don't have a clue!
> Gibsons: '22 "A" Mandolin / '66 ES 125T / '66 Epi FT-45n Cortez (B-25) / '90 Tennessean
'00 J-100 Xtra / '02 J-45 Rosewood / '02 SG Faded-moon / '09 ES 339 / '10 ES 330L
'11 ES 335-P90s / '12 ES 330 VOS / '12 LP Special / '12 J-185
'13 LG2-AE / '13 Midtown Kalamazoo / '14 J-15 / '15 J-50 CS
> Epiphones: '00 AIUSA-John Lee Hooker 1964 Sheraton / '05 McCartney 1964 Texan (Terada)
'09 Elitist 1965 Casino / > Ibanez: '81 M-340 / > Breedlove: '10 American Series OO Mandolin
> Guilds: '73 F-30R / '74 F-40 / '76 G-37 / '92 D-6 / '94 JF-30 / '97 Starfire / '14 Savoy A-150b
> Martins: '00 OOO-16 / '01 Custom Rosewood Dreadnought
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Posted 31 July 2018 - 04:37 AM

My 335 doesn't have CS in it's serial number and it doesn't have a Custom shop logo anywhere on the guitar [confused]


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Posted 31 July 2018 - 01:53 PM

View PostIanHenry, on 31 July 2018 - 04:37 AM, said:

My 335 doesn't have CS in it's serial number and it doesn't have a Custom shop logo anywhere on the guitar [confused] Ian

Yes, you mentioned that your ES-335 was made in 2010. In the years both immediately before & after 2010, all the typical 335 models I saw in stores had standard serial numbers & no custom shop logo on the headstock.

In fact, I have limited edition 2011 ES-335 w/P90s, and although it came with a COA & custom-logo case, there's no CS logo on the guitar, and the serial number is the standard-sequence type. Indeed, this struck me as a bit of a head-scratcher at the time.

But if I were to make a guess, I'd say the decision to designate certain guitars as Custom Shop models was most significantly rooted in an assortment of marketing factors.
> Gibsons: '22 "A" Mandolin / '66 ES 125T / '66 Epi FT-45n Cortez (B-25) / '90 Tennessean
'00 J-100 Xtra / '02 J-45 Rosewood / '02 SG Faded-moon / '09 ES 339 / '10 ES 330L
'11 ES 335-P90s / '12 ES 330 VOS / '12 LP Special / '12 J-185
'13 LG2-AE / '13 Midtown Kalamazoo / '14 J-15 / '15 J-50 CS
> Epiphones: '00 AIUSA-John Lee Hooker 1964 Sheraton / '05 McCartney 1964 Texan (Terada)
'09 Elitist 1965 Casino / > Ibanez: '81 M-340 / > Breedlove: '10 American Series OO Mandolin
> Guilds: '73 F-30R / '74 F-40 / '76 G-37 / '92 D-6 / '94 JF-30 / '97 Starfire / '14 Savoy A-150b
> Martins: '00 OOO-16 / '01 Custom Rosewood Dreadnought
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Posted 13 August 2018 - 06:49 AM

View PostIanHenry, on 31 July 2018 - 04:37 AM, said:

My 335 doesn't have CS in it's serial number and it doesn't have a Custom shop logo anywhere on the guitar [confused]


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