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NS Micro Tuner with NO Clip for SJ200

#1 User is offline   drathbun 

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 03:31 PM

I REALLY like the D'addario/Planetwaves NS Micro Tuner for the soundhole. I use them in my Martin and Taylor. I wanted to put one in my SJ200 but because the pickguard is so thick and right up against the sound hole, the notch for the pickup is too narrow as it is designed to fit a standard thickness guitar top.

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So I tried cannibalizing a regular NS Micro Clip-on tuner that clips to the headstock. Of course, it doesn't get small enough to clamp on to that small a thickness having been designed for headstocks. So I added bit of rubber from a cheap tuner to make it thick enough.
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That seemed to work okay but you can't access the on/off switch and controls while it is on the guitar.

So I saw this NS Micro Tuner with NO clip advertised and installed it. You take a screw from a single tuner on the back of the headstock and use that screw to fasten the tuner to the guitar. I put it on the high E string tuner and it works beautifully. However, I couldn't hang my guitar in my Hercules wall hangers. So I moved it to the G string tuner and it works great. It can't be seen from the front and it is easy to see while playing.

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 04:01 PM

That's a cool idea!
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Posted 13 July 2018 - 04:32 AM

Doug, do I have this right... you screwed into the headstock the NS tuner?
To each his own... but your guitar is stunning. I'd hate to alter it for that.
Edit... nevermind... you are using the exiting tuner screw and hole... sorry!

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Posted 13 July 2018 - 05:01 AM

View PostThemisSal, on 13 July 2018 - 04:32 AM, said:

Doug, do I have this right... you screwed into the headstock the NS tuner?
To each his own... but your guitar is stunning. I'd hate to alter it for that.



Man, you are so picky.

A roofing nail would be quicker...
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Posted 13 July 2018 - 11:11 AM

View PostThemisSal, on 13 July 2018 - 04:32 AM, said:

Doug, do I have this right... you screwed into the headstock the NS tuner?
To each his own... but your guitar is stunning. I'd hate to alter it for that.
Edit... nevermind... you are using the exiting tuner screw and hole... sorry!


Relax. It doesn't alter the guitar a bit. You remove a single screw from a tuner and put the screw through the NS Micro and then back into the tuner hole. Taking it out is the same process in reverse. Of course, you don't yarf on the screw at any point - gentle in and gentle out.

Oh... hehe.. I see you got it.

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Posted 13 July 2018 - 12:04 PM

View Postdrathbun, on 13 July 2018 - 11:11 AM, said:

Relax. It doesn't alter the guitar a bit. You remove a single screw from a tuner and put the screw through the NS Micro and then back into the tuner hole. Taking it out is the same process in reverse. Of course, you don't yarf on the screw at any point - gentle in and gentle out.

Oh... hehe.. I see you got it.

I had one of the ones in the second picture down in the OP. It was slow to react and off compared to my Boss TU-3 and Snark.
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Posted 13 July 2018 - 05:02 PM

View PostLP Trad Pro II, on 13 July 2018 - 12:04 PM, said:

I had one of the ones in the second picture down in the OP. It was slow to react and off compared to my Boss TU-3 and Snark.


I have one of these. They are very accurate and very quick. It makes the headstock a tad heavy though. [wink]

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Posted 13 July 2018 - 09:13 PM

View Postdrathbun, on 13 July 2018 - 05:02 PM, said:

I have one of these. They are very accurate and very quick. It makes the headstock a tad heavy though. [wink]

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Posted 14 July 2018 - 08:21 AM

I tried and also failed to be able to use that one in a J200.

I have one in each of my taylors tho. I like em,,
/Ray
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Posted 14 July 2018 - 08:40 AM

The Polytune clip for the headstock is all I use for both my acoustics and electrics. Extremely accurate with a Ī0.02 cent resolution. Supports flat and capo tuning as well among other things.

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Posted 14 July 2018 - 10:20 AM

ok, another newbie question. what's the purpose of these, i.e. for tuning in a noisy room? other than that, I can't understand why it's really necessary. you guys are a whole lot better than me, but i'm able to get my guitar in tune? ... but I don't tune in a noisy room, so could understand why that's legitimate.

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Posted 14 July 2018 - 10:54 AM

 billroy, on 14 July 2018 - 10:20 AM, said:

ok, another newbie question. what's the purpose of these, i.e. for tuning in a noisy room? other than that, I can't understand why it's really necessary. you guys are a whole lot better than me, but i'm able to get my guitar in tune? ... but I don't tune in a noisy room, so could understand why that's legitimate.



What are you using ?
A microphone tuner ?
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Posted 14 July 2018 - 10:56 AM

View Postblindboygrunt, on 14 July 2018 - 10:54 AM, said:

What are you using ?
A microphone tuner ?


I use my iPhone to get an A and go from there... sorry Kidblast, I'm one of those darn folks who tune down 1/2 steps :)

...but you know what, I'm not trying to stay in tune with folks, but relative tuning. So I'm only checking my strings against each other. If I had to maintain tuned to an E, I can see it. and as claimed up front, newbie question.

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Posted 14 July 2018 - 10:59 AM

I tune 1/2 step down also , the little micro tuners show flat and sharp steps so itís easy done
Or stick a capo on 1

I bought mine before iPhones had tuner apps , also because I was playing in bars and a mic tuner is no use
But once you have a clip on tuner youíll never look back Bill
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Posted 14 July 2018 - 11:06 AM

Can I ask just out of curiosity though, how often in a group setting are you retuning... is it something you do a little check on every song, or only when you hear things go a little hay wire? appreciate the conversation, apologies if it's background noise
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Posted 14 July 2018 - 11:15 AM

 billroy, on 14 July 2018 - 11:06 AM, said:

Can I ask just out of curiosity though, how often in a group setting are you retuning... is it something you do a little check on every song, or only when you hear things go a little hay wire? appreciate the conversation, apologies if it's background noise


I keep an eye on it would be best way to put it
Usually grand for a few songs. I capo a lot , about 90% of my songs , and sometimes the low E needs a wee smidge .
Tuning up once and throwing it back in the bag isnít an option.
Probably properly check all strings every two to three songs , but doesnít always need anything touched

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Posted 14 July 2018 - 11:37 AM

View Postblindboygrunt, on 14 July 2018 - 11:15 AM, said:

I keep an eye on it would be best way to put it
Usually grand for a few songs. I capo a lot , about 90% of my songs , and sometimes the low E needs a wee smidge .
Tuning up once and throwing it back in the bag isnít an option.
Probably properly check all strings every two to three songs , but doesnít always need anything touched


thanks for the input, appreciate it!
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Posted 14 July 2018 - 07:09 PM

View Postbillroy, on 14 July 2018 - 10:20 AM, said:

ok, another newbie question. what's the purpose of these, i.e. for tuning in a noisy room? other than that, I can't understand why it's really necessary. you guys are a whole lot better than me, but i'm able to get my guitar in tune? ... but I don't tune in a noisy room, so could understand why that's legitimate.



The selling point for me with the sound hole clips is they stay in the guitar. I don't have to remove them and replace when I need them. but I leave this in the Taylors.. just turn on, tune, turn off.

and tuning to E-flat,, hey Bill, just continue to go with what ever works man. Just tune to D#, BFlat, etc.. and you're there.
/Ray
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