sbpark Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 I can't lie, the guitar sounds great. Not sure why they went with a magnetic sound hole pickup, and the guitar just seems to have an identity crisis, but again, I do think it sounds great! It's too bad though that Martin's attempt at a burst doesn't even come close to Gibsons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 While I can live without the "The Martin" script thing, I personally always felt Bozeman missed the boat by refusing to budge from the standard scalloped X brace carve they came up with in the early Montana days. Collings and apparently Martin have re-discovered the tall thin non-scalloped X bracing that prior to 1942 was characteristic of many Gibson guitars. And I love magnetic soundhole pickups. They are all that I use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbpark Posted September 22, 2018 Author Share Posted September 22, 2018 Just watched the video again, what strings are on that thing? They look like they're a silver color. Retros perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Just watched the video again, what strings are on that thing? They look like they're a silver color. Retros perhaps? Possibly nickel wrap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvi Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 you just found 3 implied faults in a fab seeming guitar from an awesome american builder off a video? having a gibson dosnt mean you get points for faulting other gits .just saying...ps Martin makes a great sounding Martin, Gibson makes a great sounding Gibson ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWG4927 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 you just found 3 implied faults in a fab seeming guitar from an awesome american builder off a video? having a gibson dosnt mean you get points for faulting other gits .just saying...ps Martin makes a great sounding Martin, Gibson makes a great sounding Gibson ... Implied faults? The opinion about the headstock shape came off more as a preference. Zombywoof actually complimented the guitar with regard to 1) the bracing and 2) the soundhole pickup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbpark Posted September 23, 2018 Author Share Posted September 23, 2018 you just found 3 implied faults in a fab seeming guitar from an awesome american builder off a video? having a gibson dosnt mean you get points for faulting other gits .just saying...ps Martin makes a great sounding Martin, Gibson makes a great sounding Gibson ... Martin also apparently makes a great sounding Gibson. And for the record, I actually love the sound of that guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Martin also apparently makes a great sounding Gibson. And for the record, I actually love the sound of that guitar. Turn around is fair play. The Hummingbird came about when Wilbur Fuller, under orders from Gibson's chief engineer, began designing a square shoulder jumbo based on a Martin dread with a Martin actually being brought in to copy. Apparently Fuller penciled the design, cut the top and the back and did all of the rim bending himself. The design debuted in 1958 as the Epiphone Frontier which a couple of years later became the Hummingbird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Hmmm, , , let's not forget the J-60. But this switching identity isn't really my cup of tea. Still quite interesting with the un-scalloped/scalloped brace-mix. Though it doesn't bring the jumbo's voice closer to a Gibson. 1992 ~ "Let's wear each others masks and sound like something in between - or something forth, , , or nothing at all. . " Pass - but at least it's harmless - even friendly. And you know that can't be bad. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluesKing777 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Don't forget the Martin CEO7 - which they sold bucketloads of - including one to me! Here is DaddyStovePipe playing one: BluesKing777. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard McCoy Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 That Martin neither sounds like a Gibson nor looks like one to discerning eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorrisrownSal Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Back around 2005-ish I bought a Martin CEO4 rosewood. It was basically a copy of a Gibson AJ. I kept it a year, but then couldn’t take it any longer. Very, very muddy voicing. If you played it quietly it wasn’t responsive. If you played it with some guts it was muddy. Oh, and the sunburst was.... not a Gibson sunburst. It was too bad. I traded in a Martin 000-GT for it, that I had gotten from Umanovs. My first Martin for this shiny new one. Some mistakes even I only make once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 This thread sounds muddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 This thread sounds muddy. I remember a t.v. show called 'My Favorite Martian". That's all I've got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 I remember a t.v. show called 'My Favorite Martian". That's all I've got. Never saw it. It was in the same time slot as "Mr. Ed". I mean, come on. Everyone was seeing Martians back then. But a Talking Horse ! Wowsers !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 It was in the same time slot as "Mr. Ed". The only thing I can remember about Mr. Ed was that Wilbur's wife was a REAL hottie ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 I'm serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelDeVille Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 I do like the pickup, but that’s about it. Do you need Nickle wound strings for the pickup to pick up? The shape is too much like a fat girl with a pretty face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 What is this thread on about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 What is this thread on about Connie Hines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 I do like the pickup, but that’s about it. Do you need Nickle wound strings for the pickup to pick up? The shape is too much like a fat girl with a pretty face. Magnetic pickups do read nickel strings better than bronze. I know others who prefer white bronze strings. You can string with PB or bronze but to my ear the low end in particular can sound a bit muddy. I use Dearmond 210s but also own guitars equipped with a Gibson P-13 and a Gibson P-90. When I know I will be plugging in I use Newtone nickel strings. But I also just like nickel strings especially the feel of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Connie Hines. I'll still pick Mary Ann from Gilligan's Island. As in - "if you were on a deserted island and could only have one guitar ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 I'll still pick Mary Ann from Gilligan's Island. As in - "if you were on a deserted island and could only have one guitars' ? Well, that and she's still alive... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Well, that and she's still alive... There's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave F Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Well, that and she's still alive... Yea, when you go digging a old corpse sometimes you’re disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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