jvi Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 imported tuners and no one cares ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuroAussie Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 If you live in Europe pretty much everything is imported .... you get used to it. ps: are Tariffs going on it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 imported tuners and no one cares ! kidding me?? I am horrified... I need a my crayons a coloring book and my safe room... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvi Posted November 12, 2018 Author Share Posted November 12, 2018 just seems odd to me with all the talk around here that chinese or wherever tuners seem to be ok to folks on USA Gibson guitars -these tuners suck and should be banned... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhanners623 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 It's a global planet. Or something like that. It all depends how far down that rabbit hole you want to go. Is the metal used for your frets from the U.S.? I doubt it. Similarly, I doubt the camels whose bones supplied my bridge pins came from the U.S. The list goes on. Even in the Golden Era of vintage guitars, things like Brazilian rosewood came from, well, Brazil. I've got Waverlys on one guitar and Golden Age Restoration tuners on my J-35. The Waverlys are American-made. I'm not sure where the GARs come from, but they are very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 It's a global planet. Or something like that. It all depends how far down that rabbit hole you want to go. Is the metal used for your frets from the U.S.? I doubt it. Similarly, I doubt the camels whose bones supplied my bridge pins came from the U.S. The list goes on. Even in the Golden Era of vintage guitars, things like Brazilian rosewood came from, well, Brazil. Pretty much the only woods from the US in vintage guitars are maple and spruce: ebony, from Africa; mahogany, from Central America; rosewood from Brazil. Even the best celluloid for pickguards was often Italian. No different today, except that the rosewood generally comes from India or Madagascar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 What’s a good material for a big wooden spoon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvi Posted November 12, 2018 Author Share Posted November 12, 2018 steel production and mfg are different"camels" than wood source, quality on things like grovers seemed better when produced in the USA than when outsourced,and the country of origin is kind of hidden on this product. just saying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 What’s a good material for a big wooden spoon? black plastic.. it's awesome... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 black plastic.. it's awesome... A black plastic wooden spoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvi Posted November 12, 2018 Author Share Posted November 12, 2018 made in china with pixalation issues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobouz Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Crappy knock-off Gibson Klusons on my 2013 LG-2 are made in Japan. Better Kluson-branded knock-offs are made in Korea. What a strange world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Wilson Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Look how much of your American cars have foreign parts in them. I really don't care where the tuners are made. Mine work and that's the important thing to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Lawdy, ya'll are just discovering this? Kluson shut down its Chicago plant in 1981 and Grover left Cleveland a year or two later. One of the reasons I snag busted up guitars for $10 is to get the Kluson tuners. I have a good enough supply that I can equip pretty much any Gibson built from the late 1930s into the early 1950s. All in all I find the Gotoh-made Grovers to be a better quality than the offshore-made Klusons. For a while we were able to get Antique Acoustics tuners which had become the standard for Gibson restoration but Blazer and Henkes stopped making them. Some of the original Klusons have gotten pretty pricey. Just thank your luck starts you are not seeking a set of Kluson Sealfast tuners. They can go for as much as $700 a set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olie Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Soon Gibson will one day. Just sayin. Hear me now and believe me later. The Oracle of Delphi blesses us yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissouriPicker Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 I finally found a little smear of glue inside one of my Gibsons. The smear itself doesn't bother me, but what if the glue was made in another country? What-in-hell is the world coming to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksdaddy Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 One of my favorite guitars is my 1985 Fender D’Aquisto. A US company teams up with an Italian to design it, and it’s made in Japan with pickups and tuners made in Germany. Haven’t even gotten to the wood yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvi Posted November 13, 2018 Author Share Posted November 13, 2018 surprised at this groups love of cheap tuners,well no, not surprised... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 surprised at this groups love of cheap tuners,well no, not surprised... You initially didn’t mention price Just annoyance at them being imported Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrairieSchooner Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 No one said they loved them, just that it is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvi Posted November 13, 2018 Author Share Posted November 13, 2018 cheap as in not that good, and my point was that on a Gibson guitar having import tuners that arnt great is not ok, people talk about nut material, saddle too, finish thickness, and my new fave PIXALATION IN PGS,but not grovers origin- I guess Im being me ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the other side Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Oh my gosh !My bird has increased approximately 950 USD since I bought in 2013 all because Grover tuners are on it. I guess it would be worth more if it didn't! To me, they work great! Well I'll say it, I love em ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvi Posted November 13, 2018 Author Share Posted November 13, 2018 so made in usa means not made in usa, now I get it, glad yer ok losing jobs and production Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the other side Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Wow,jobs and production, there would be a hay day on the Martin site and other companies in USA. Let's be fair to all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtees Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Grovers have been imported for years from my recollection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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