blindboygrunt Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Any fan of Springsteen needs to hear this latest album of his one man shownon Broadway. Or indeed any fan of music Fantastic stuff. AND his pickup sounds like rubbish. But it doesn’t matter one iota Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scriv58 Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 ‘Springsteen on Broadway" premieres Dec. 16 on Netflix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Paul Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Looking forward to both seeing the Netflix presentation and hearing the soundtrack which I see just went up on Spotify today. When I saw his solo acoustic shows supporting Ghost of Tom Joad his acoustics were all quacky but yeah, nobody cared including me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle fester Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Never been a fan of Springsteen, more of an anti fan... I got to give him his due though, he's stayed true to himself, always promoted a positive message (from the limited sampling I've had) and more than anything, he's endured the test of time. Maybe I'll give it go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Wilson Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Any chance of me listening to Springsteen ended when he used the state for a political pulpit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave F Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Any chance of me listening to Springsteen ended when he used the state for a political pulpit. Ditto. I feel that way about all entertainers. I want to be entertained, not hear one's political or religious views. There's plenty of venues from which I can obtain that. I have no problem with anyones views or knowing what their views are, but when I want entertainment I don't want to hear the other stuff. Case in point: the new TV show 911 quickly became one of my favorites. Had a couple of my favorite actor/actresses (Angela Bassett, Peter Krause) and a good mix of drama, comedy and highlighting social issues (about like this forum). A few weeks ago they felt the need to shoot a barb at a top political figure. I quit watching it. I don't care what side of the line you're on, keep it to yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 333 Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 I was very fortunate to get tickets through a lottery Springsteen held, and saw the show in its first week of previews. It was fantastic. I don't recall there being anything political about it. Simply a man's life story (if one is ever simple), an explanation of why he wrote some key songs, and a willful deconstruction of his carefully crafted myth. It was a brilliant performance, but I can easily see the show being performed by someone other than Springsteen and it still being successful, the book (the stories told) and the music are so well integrated and the themes so universal. I'm very much looking forward to seeing the Netflix version. Red 333 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars68 Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 I got the CDs of the show and listened to them today. Nothing short of superb. Some wonderful solo versions of his songs, and some life affirming, insightful and at times very funny monologues. I loved it! Lars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Wilson Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Ditto. I feel that way about all entertainers. I want to be entertained, not hear one's political or religious views. There's plenty of venues from which I can obtain that. I have no problem with anyones views or knowing what their views are, but when I want entertainment I don't want to hear the other stuff. Case in point: the new TV show 911 quickly became one of my favorites. Had a couple of my favorite actor/actresses (Angela Bassett, Peter Krause) and a good mix of drama, comedy and highlighting social issues (about like this forum). A few weeks ago they felt the need to shoot a barb at a top political figure. I quit watching it. I don't care what side of the line you're on, keep it to yourself. My point exactly! Politics (left or right) doesn't belong on the entertainment stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhanners623 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 My point exactly! Politics (left or right) doesn't belong on the entertainment stage. I'd say the opposite is true. We don't need entertainers (like reality-show stars) in politics.... C'mon. Get serious. Anybody with an IQ higher than room temperature knows what they're going to get with people like Springsteen, Earle, Nugent, Charlie Daniels, Dylan, Neil Young, CSN, Kid Rock, Garth Brooks, Hank Jr., et al. Ralph Stanley made a video endorsing Obama. Bill Monroe was reluctant to go to an arts luncheon at Reagan's White House (or maybe it was Nixon's) because he was a Democrat. Politics is a part of music and it's been that way forever. Think Woody Guthrie. Think Phil Ochs. Think Joan Baez. That's part of who they are. Their politics and their worldview inspires their art. (Although I'm hesitant to call Nugent's music "art"....) I recall seeing the documentary of CSNY's 2006 "Freedom of Speech" tour, and they interviewed angry people leaving one of the concerts mid-show who said they were disgusted by the politics. That's a real head-scratcher. Number one, it's CSNY. They've ALWAYS been political, and they are usually at their best when they are political. Did these people think "Ohio" was just a song about Ohio? Secondly, the tour was called "Freedom of Speech," and the angry patrons were apparently unhappy that CSNY were exercising their, well, freedom of speech. I guess the irony of that was lost on them. If you don't want politics in your music, stick with Shakira and Justin Bieber. Maybe Kane Brown is your type of act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scriv58 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Brother can you spare a dime? Strange fruit? Sunday bloody sunday? A change is gonna come? All classics, all with a message transcending boy meets/loses girl. Perhaps with a large soapbox comes large responsibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scriv58 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 i recall reading a john mellencamp interview several years ago where he was quoted as saying "it's hard to sit on my hands and smile at stupid things". who better than the court jester to craftily rail against the king? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Wilson Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 To each his ownself. But I go to a concert to be entertained. If I crave politics, there are plenty of political rallies to attend. And, thankfully, there are a large number of very good entertainers who keep their politics to themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted December 15, 2018 Author Share Posted December 15, 2018 Is there politics in the broadway show ? And if you can’t allow another man a different political view then aren’t you just the other side of the coin from a man expressing his views by being incapable of listening ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Wilson Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 The Springsteen rant that I'm referring to happened during a concert. I'm happy for people to have opposing political views...that's what political rallies are for. But they can keep them out of their concerts if they want my business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted December 15, 2018 Author Share Posted December 15, 2018 Yeah but jim , and I’m not looking a major argument here man , but you refuse to listen to any more Springsteen music because he voiced his political opinion at a show . Seems way too intolerant to me that. I’ve no idea what Bruce’s politics are and couldn’t care less what he thinks I’m just into a few good tunes Aside from him being a nazi or something then I’ll ignore and respect whatever any other man thinks politically. And yeah , I too would much prefer he didn’t say anything but politics is everywhere , what can ya do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 i recall reading a john mellencamp interview several years ago where he was quoted as saying "it's hard to sit on my hands and smile at stupid things". who better than the court jester to craftily rail against the king? That politics and music don't mix may be the most profoundly absurd premise I've ever heard. If you took the politics out of music, some of our best music never would have been written. Whether you like it or not, you can't separate politics from life. At the very least, politics influences your life. At its worse, it controls your life. Music is a way to keep the former from becoming the latter, done either by metaphor or in-your-face political commentary. Come out of your safe place, and face the music. You'll be a stronger and better person for it, whether you agree or disagree with what is being said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars68 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 That politics and music don't mix may be the most profoundly absurd premise I've ever heard. If you took the politics out of music, some of our best music never would have been written. Whether you like it or not, you can't separate politics from life. At the very least, politics influences your life. At its worse, it controls your life. Music is a way to keep the former from becoming the latter, done either by metaphor or in-your-face political commentary. Come out of your safe place, and face the music. You'll be a stronger and better person for it, whether you agree or disagree with what is being said. Nick, I could not agree more. All types of art are reflections of humanity, and politics set the boundries for human interaction. Art and politics belong together, and only in totalitarian states are they kept apart. Lars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scriv58 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Listened to the springsteen on broadway release this morning- some new renditions, nice to hear. Yes, the guitar is quacky, but a favorite billy joe shaver live album with his son eddy as an acoustic duo had very quacky guitars, after listening to them for a while it seems like not such a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhanners623 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 I guess my question re: Springsteen, this being a Gibson forum, is why doesn't Bruce think a Gibson is roadworthy enough to play Day in and day out? Yeah, I know everyone (nearly everyone, anyway) loves Taks for their simplicity and trouble-free electronics, but I'd rather see Bruce playing an American-made acoustic. That said, I recall him playing a Gibson in videos for his "Seeger Sessions" songs.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Wilson Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Yeah but jim , and I’m not looking a major argument here man , but you refuse to listen to any more Springsteen music because he voiced his political opinion at a show . Seems way too intolerant to me that. I’ve no idea what Bruce’s politics are and couldn’t care less what he thinks I’m just into a few good tunes Aside from him being a nazi or something then I’ll ignore and respect whatever any other man thinks politically. And yeah , I too would much prefer he didn’t say anything but politics is everywhere , what can ya do When enough of us are upset with an entertainer using the stage as a political pulpit it will be reflected in their ticket and record sales, or the lack thereof. Witness the Dixie Chicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted December 15, 2018 Author Share Posted December 15, 2018 I wish I had just listened to the album and not told any of you about it 😂 Next time I’ll keep it to myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Wilson Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Another point, using the Dixie Chicks as an example....there was a group who made very good music and were entertaining. Then their political rant wiped them off the map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted December 15, 2018 Author Share Posted December 15, 2018 Another point, using the Dixie Chicks as an example....there was a group who made very good music and were entertaining. Then their political rant wiped them off the map. Every cloud has a silver lining Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Another point, using the Dixie Chicks as an example....there was a group who made very good music and were entertaining. Then their political rant wiped them off the map. And that rant is the very reason that we can say to let ticket and recording sales judge people, rather than what they say, and when they say it. If it pisses off enough people so that their sales go through the basement, so be it. Let the marketplace judge whether their political statements are a deal-breaker for a performer's career. You use the Dixie Chicks as an example, I'll use Ted Nugent. Who's Ted Nugent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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