Soapbox Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 I have an older Southern Jumbo. I think 1954. There is no visible serial number. Some specifics: hand written in the sound hold is J185. It has 14 frets. Completely restored in 1992 by Gibson factory south of Nasville. I got the guitar in 1964. I’m trying to attach a picture to this post. Hope it works. Do you all think the1954 dare is close to be accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Picture did not attach or embed, and is essential before any meaningful analysis. I think you mean it has 14 frets to the neck joint to the body, which is standard. Does it have a total of 19 frets, or 20? teardrop pickguard, or larger batwing? Gibson factory "restorations" of vintage guitars can be problematic. I speak from first-hand experience, although mine was done in Kalamazoo in 1968, and was intended to be a repair, not a "restoration." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpbiii Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Here are a couple of pictures of our 54 SJ if that will help. Best, -Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvi Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 decent 1954 sj in canada at folkway music in ont, issues but affordable fwiw other beauts as well, no affiliation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 decent 1954 sj in canada at folkway music in ont, issues but affordable fwiw other beauts as well, no affiliation Those guys have some of the best descriptions and photos of their vintage instruments I've ever seen. They also have a few very nice vintage guitars for sale. The 1941 D-28 'bone at $60k US is beautiful and it actually very well priced, but the 1950 D-28 at $11k US is closer to what I can afford. It's pretty nice, too. The SJ at Folkway must be from late '54, as it has a batwing pickguard (assuming the pickguard is original). Tom B's has the tear drop. Both have 19-fret boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvi Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 canadas best Id say, great to deal with, also a 74 cent dollar may help folks in america while it pinches some of us canucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedzep Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Wonder what it costs to get the thing across the border. Last time I bought it ran me an extra hundred bucks. but Braz RW wasn't involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Wonder what it costs to get the thing across the border. Last time I bought it ran me an extra hundred bucks. but Braz RW wasn't involved. I was thinking the same thing. You would hope the dealer has the required paperwork, since he is advertising in both USD and CAD. Same thing applies with those D28's, where the BRW is glaringly obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Gibson factory "restorations" of vintage guitars can be problematic. I speak from first-hand experience, although mine was done in Kalamazoo in 1968, and was intended to be a repair, not a "restoration." As you and I both know from experience, restoration at Kalamazoo involved replacement with only whatever parts they happened to be using at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 As you and I both know from experience, restoration at Kalamazoo involved replacement with only whatever parts they happened to be using at the time. Yep. If you sent a guitar to Kalamazoo for repairs in 1968, it came back with 1968-style parts, no matter the age of the guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAMELEYE Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 I bring guitars back and forth across the border regularly. Never had an issue. This includes guitars that were sold or traded in Canada and others that I bought there and just brought home. On entering Canada I tell the border guard that I have my guitar with me. If it's not there when I return nobody asks. If bringing a new one home I just say the same thing, I have my guitar with me. Nobody checks for Brazilian either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 I bring guitars back and forth across the border regularly. Never had an issue. This includes guitars that were sold or traded in Canada and others that I bought there and just brought home. On entering Canada I tell the border guard that I have my guitar with me. If it's not there when I return nobody asks. If bringing a new one home I just say the same thing, I have my guitar with me. Nobody checks for Brazilian either. Shipping it might be a different story, but maybe not between the US and Canada, since its country of origin is the US. Then again, who knows these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldCowboy Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Yep. If you sent a guitar to Kalamazoo for repairs in 1968, it came back with 1968-style parts, no matter the age of the guitar. Knew a man with an original AJ (beautiful instrument) that came back after a rim replacement as a one-of-a-kind: one rosewood rim and one (new) mahogany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Knew a man with an original AJ (beautiful instrument) that came back after a rim replacement as a one-of-a-kind: one rosewood rim and one (new) mahogany. I believe it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpbiii Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 [/url] CAMELEYE, on 15 December 2018 - 07:30 PM, said: I bring guitars back and forth across the border regularly. Never had an issue. This includes guitars that were sold or traded in Canada and others that I bought there and just brought home. On entering Canada I tell the border guard that I have my guitar with me. If it's not there when I return nobody asks. If bringing a new one home I just say the same thing, I have my guitar with me. Nobody checks for Brazilian either. Shipping it might be a different story, but maybe not between the US and Canada, since its country of origin is the US. Then again, who knows these days? Like some kind of migrating bird, we mostly summer in Nova Scotia and winter in Georgia. We carry quite a few vintage instruments back and forth -- so this is a big deal for us. At the current time, both the US and Canada have posted a "personal luggage exemption" on their web pages. Like the poster above, we have had no problems and we have/do move some BRW -- it is very hard to avoid all BRW in old guitars.. If you look closely at our SJ picture above, you can make out the MADE IN THE USA on the back of the head stock -- so that guitar was first sold in Canada. I still consider it a crap shoot, and I generally don't bring the high dollar stuff that it would be both a personal and financial disaster to lose -- much disappointing my Canadian guitar geek friends. Let's pick, -Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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