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Gibson J-35 Discontinued ...Your thoughts J-35. 2013 to 2018 . RIP

#1 User is offline   The G 

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Posted 30 January 2019 - 10:12 PM

Sad to hear Gibson has discontinued this model.
The craftsmanship on mine is fabulous. Beautifully silked spruce top and gorgeous mahogany back and sides. Great looking rosewood used on the neck and
bridge . And ....awesome sound and projection ( Subjective I know)
So my theory is they priced the instrument too low in their product line and werenít making enough markup. [glare]
What are your thoughts?
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Posted 30 January 2019 - 10:51 PM

Gibson is introducing even lower priced instruments that are differentiated from the J-45 to a greater degree, so there are too many sub J-45 priced models.
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Posted 30 January 2019 - 10:53 PM

I think they kind of flooded the market with those.. every store Ive been in up here has at least 3 on the racks.. there a great sounding guitar... they dont even sell for that much money... I paid a grand for mine.. and I like it..
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Posted 30 January 2019 - 11:32 PM

Well Darn I wanted to pick one up some day. I have to consider getting used one which is ok but would have rather had a new one. I always liked the look and sound of the 35.
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Posted 30 January 2019 - 11:34 PM

While it's a quite good Guitar, Gibson constantly does FSR's of lots of Guitars. Just makes yours a little more exclusive as there are tons of J-45's....
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Posted 30 January 2019 - 11:37 PM

View Postkelly campbell, on 30 January 2019 - 11:32 PM, said:

Well Darn I wanted to pick one up some day. I have to consider getting used one which is ok but would have rather had a new one. I always liked the look and sound of the 35.



The next time you see it in a Gibson catalog.. it will be a 3 G guitar..
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Posted 30 January 2019 - 11:52 PM

I think like all good things it had to go at some point.
I bet the reason the J 15 is still around is because itís all north american tonewoods.

Don Ruffato has stated multiple times that walnut is the way to go to keep pricing down for the end consumer. Mahogany and Rosewood are already getting harder to find.Maybe Gibson wants to save their mahogany for J 45ís and Hummingbirds.




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Posted 31 January 2019 - 01:27 AM

View PostJuanCarlosVejar, on 30 January 2019 - 11:52 PM, said:

I think like all good things it had to go at some point.
I bet the reason the J 15 is still around is because it’s all north american tonewoods.

Don Ruffato has stated multiple times that walnut is the way to go to keep pricing down for the end consumer. Mahogany and Rosewood are already getting harder to find.Maybe Gibson wants to save their mahogany for J 45’s and Hummingbirds.




JC


There is definitely a move by many manufacturers to use sustainable woods in many of their guitars.

This post has been edited by The G: 31 January 2019 - 01:30 AM

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Posted 31 January 2019 - 03:25 AM

View PostJuanCarlosVejar, on 30 January 2019 - 11:52 PM, said:

I think like all good things it had to go at some point.
I bet the reason the J 15 is still around is because itís all north american tonewoods.

Don Ruffato has stated multiple times that walnut is the way to go to keep pricing down for the end consumer. Mahogany and Rosewood are already getting harder to find.Maybe Gibson wants to save their mahogany for J 45ís and Hummingbirds.




JC


I thought the J-15 had been axed, at least I haven't found it on their new website. There's very little difference between a J-15 and a J-45 Studio so there wouldn't be a lot of point in making both.



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Posted 31 January 2019 - 05:35 AM

View PostIanHenry, on 31 January 2019 - 03:25 AM, said:

I thought the J-15 had been axed, at least I haven't found it on their new website. There's very little difference between a J-15 and a J-45 Studio so there wouldn't be a lot of point in making both.


The J-15 is SELLING....

Also, it's quirky enough to be interesting, maple neck, skunk stripe, walnut fretboard. But with J-45 specs. Heck, I bought one and it's AWESOME!

Sustainable woods is the future of guitars whether we like it or not. These kids coming up have been brainwashed. Get over it.

They think Socialism is a good thing too. Even though it's never worked out like that. Ever.

There is a magic number, and if they sell THAT NUMBER, they will be built. If that goal isn't reached, poof....
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Posted 31 January 2019 - 07:14 AM

As the old saying goes, all things must end.....production of the J35 included. I'm very happy with mine. More articulate than the J45 Vintage, brighter and louder, I've been switching between the two while working this new cover tune and there is a distinct difference in their voices. Like the original run of 35s, perhaps in 100 years these will be treasured as a rare Gibson model.
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Posted 31 January 2019 - 07:17 AM

View PostMurph, on 31 January 2019 - 05:35 AM, said:

The J-15 is SELLING....

Also, it's quirky enough to be interesting, maple neck, skunk stripe, walnut fretboard. But with J-45 specs. Heck, I bought one and it's AWESOME!

Sustainable woods is the future of guitars whether we like it or not. These kids coming up have been brainwashed. Get over it.

They think Socialism is a good thing too. Even though it's never worked out like that. Ever.

There is a magic number, and if they sell THAT NUMBER, they will be built. If that goal isn't reached, poof....


Murph, did you try a J35 when you bought the J15? Just wondering why one over the other. I haven't seen either.

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Posted 31 January 2019 - 08:02 AM

View PostMurph, on 31 January 2019 - 05:35 AM, said:

The J-15 is SELLING....

Also, it's quirky enough to be interesting, maple neck, skunk stripe, walnut fretboard. But with J-45 specs. Heck, I bought one and it's AWESOME!

Sustainable woods is the future of guitars whether we like it or not. These kids coming up have been brainwashed. Get over it.

They think Socialism is a good thing too. Even though it's never worked out like that. Ever.

There is a magic number, and if they sell THAT NUMBER, they will be built. If that goal isn't reached, poof....

interesting that socialism got a capital...
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Posted 31 January 2019 - 08:45 AM

View PostIanHenry, on 31 January 2019 - 03:25 AM, said:

I thought the J-15 had been axed, at least I haven't found it on their new website. There's very little difference between a J-15 and a J-45 Studio so there wouldn't be a lot of point in making both.



Ian


Ian,

Here you go:

https://www.gibson.c...ue-Natural-2019

They are different enough to produce them both.

The fretboard radius on the J 15 is 12 inches vs 16 inches on the G 45ís. The neck on the J 15 is 2 piece maple whereas on the G 45ís itís something else (they havenít put up full specs yet but from the namm videos itís clear to not be maple)

J 15 comes with the normal style lacquer finish vs a satin style feel on the G 45ís .

The J 15 comes with a LR Baggís Element vs a Fishman Sonitone.



The funny thing is people are already hating on the new generation models 😂😂😂😂

Theyíre saying they look cheap ... No matter what Gibson tries to do itís always going to be trashed by the people who canít afford the classics.


To me it looks to have features of a student model and if I were 16 and had $1000 to buy an acoustic this summer Iíd play one to see if I liked it beforw judging .





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Posted 31 January 2019 - 10:20 AM

I've spent much of my lifetime turning large stacks of endangered tropical hardwoods into a few good things plus large piles of worthless sawdust. Probably won't stop at my age. I understand the sustainable woods approach to guitars, but still prefer the classics: mahogany, spruce, maple, rosewood, and ebony. At least maple is sustainable, and Mr. Taylor is trying to do the same for ebony. It is entirely possible to plantation-grow all these woods, but it takes a very long-term approach that our thirst for instant gratification renders difficult. Teak has been plantation-grown for years.

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Posted 31 January 2019 - 10:38 AM

Probably wouldnít cost much to strip off the bees wax and shoot a clear coat of the nitro if you find one you like.
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Posted 31 January 2019 - 12:46 PM

I never liked the "newer" J35's. I played several, and owned one for a hot minute. Too bright for my taste. I think the combination of the bracing pattern used (same as the AJ I think) with the short scale neck and mahogany back and sides just didnt work for me. Now, my AJ with the same bracing pattern, long scale neck and rosewood back and sides is a beast. I also have a J45 Standard that I love, and felt like the J35 was just a weaker, thinner sounding and less complex sound compared to the J45.
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Posted 31 January 2019 - 01:43 PM

View PostJuanCarlosVejar, on 31 January 2019 - 08:45 AM, said:

Ian,

Here you go:

https://www.gibson.c...ue-Natural-2019

They are different enough to produce them both.

The fretboard radius on the J 15 is 12 inches vs 16 inches on the G 45ís. The neck on the J 15 is 2 piece maple whereas on the G 45ís itís something else (they havenít put up full specs yet but from the namm videos itís clear to not be maple)

J 15 comes with the normal style lacquer finish vs a satin style feel on the G 45ís .

The J 15 comes with a LR Baggís Element vs a Fishman Sonitone.



The funny thing is people are already hating on the new generation models 😂😂😂😂

Theyíre saying they look cheap ... No matter what Gibson tries to do itís always going to be trashed by the people who canít afford the classics.


To me it looks to have features of a student model and if I were 16 and had $1000 to buy an acoustic this summer Iíd play one to see if I liked it beforw judging .





JC


Thanks for that JC, I think the J-15's are great guitars. When I got mine I was torn between it and a J-45, ideally I'd have had both, it's not that one was better than the other, they were just different. To be honest the j-35 just wasn't in the same League, but It's each to their own I guess!


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Posted 01 February 2019 - 02:13 AM

I don't know the first thing about running a guitar company, but I DO know my J-35 is a great guitar, especially given it's price. I've had it since the summer of '16 and have gigged with it on two continents and it's always come through.

I know Gibson was trying to keep expenses down, but I would've loved some aging toner on top and a simple white silkscreen script logo on the headstock, ala the original '35s. Those are just cosmetic gripes, though. In terms of build quality, finish, playability and, most critically, sound, it's a wonderful guitar.
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Posted 01 February 2019 - 05:35 AM

View Postlivemusic, on 31 January 2019 - 07:17 AM, said:

Murph, did you try a J35 when you bought the J15? Just wondering why one over the other. I haven't seen either.


I might have, I played several guitars during that period.

The J-15 had fantastic action, good volume and great tone. I was intrigued by the Walnut, I've always liked Walnut. I've owned a Walnut SG for decades.
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