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#21 User is offline   Black Dog 

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Posted 12 February 2019 - 10:07 AM

I've only done one ABR bridge from scratch. I didn't do the hammer technique, but if I ever do it again I would. According to Dan Erlewine that's how Gibson does it. It's hard to imagine they stopped slotting them. I think someone just forgot. I'm interested to see what Sweetwater says.
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Posted 12 February 2019 - 10:36 AM

When I was a kid we ran a nail file across the top three, four times. Jesus Christ. It's not plutonium enrichment!

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Posted 12 February 2019 - 12:41 PM

Are you supposed to slot Tune-o-matic bridge saddles?

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After doing more research it seems slots are the way to go. I have had Gibsons both ways including my SGX that the slots were finished inside. Its hard for me to imagine Gibson techs filing slots as apposed to using manufactured bridges that already had slots. Anyway they seem to get out of the factory both ways for quite some time..

Slotted ABR-1 Tune-o-matic Bridge

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Posted 12 February 2019 - 01:18 PM

View Postrct, on 12 February 2019 - 10:36 AM, said:

When I was a kid we ran a nail file across the top three, four times. Jesus Christ. It's not plutonium enrichment!

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At it's most basic, that's really all there is to it.

Although I do like the idea of the mallet technique. Scoring the saddles would really help keep the file from sliding around. It just costs you a set of strings. No big deal.



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Posted 12 February 2019 - 01:25 PM

View PostBlack Dog, on 12 February 2019 - 01:18 PM, said:

At it's most basic, that's really all there is to it.

Although I do like the idea of the mallet technique. Scoring the saddles would really help keep the file from sliding around. It just costs you a set of strings. No big deal.


If it was slipping, I'd push the string aside and use a nail file, because I could find that fastest. They don't usually slip for me, and I push hard, so I would take it to one 4 set gig and it would be grooved by the end of the night. I wouldn't want the company to groove it because as soon as I get the guitar I am changing strings and I'd rather mine grooved it than theirs. That may be why there may be more and more ungrooved saddles on new guitars these days.

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Posted 12 February 2019 - 01:54 PM

View Postrct, on 12 February 2019 - 01:25 PM, said:

If it was slipping, I'd push the string aside and use a nail file, because I could find that fastest. They don't usually slip for me, and I push hard, so I would take it to one 4 set gig and it would be grooved by the end of the night. I wouldn't want the company to groove it because as soon as I get the guitar I am changing strings and I'd rather mine grooved it than theirs. That may be why there may be more and more ungrooved saddles on new guitars these days.

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That's definitely getting in the Groove of things..
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Posted 12 February 2019 - 09:05 PM

Gibson notches its saddles. Sure, maybe some make it through un-notched, but they are exceptions. No, having strings find their own spot is not the way to go. It is generally the case that an exact straight pull from tailpiece to nut, which is what strings will do on their own, will not be optimum given polepiece location and/or fretboard edge, and spacing w/ other strings. It's easy to notch saddles properly, though easier to do it wrong, which is what will happen if you take the strange advice some have posted here. Just do the hammer method described in many places, and deepen the bass strings a tad, if needed, with a small file. Yours should have been done at the factory, and Sweetwater should have caught it, but there's a general level of carelessness, and this stuff happens.
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Posted 13 February 2019 - 04:19 AM

 S.Ustain, on 12 February 2019 - 09:05 PM, said:

Gibson notches its saddles. Sure, maybe some make it through un-notched, but they are exceptions. No, having strings find their own spot is not the way to go. It is generally the case that an exact straight pull from tailpiece to nut, which is what strings will do on their own, will not be optimum given polepiece location and/or fretboard edge, and spacing w/ other strings. It's easy to notch saddles properly, though easier to do it wrong, which is what will happen if you take the strange advice some have posted here. Just do the hammer method described in many places, and deepen the bass strings a tad, if needed, with a small file. Yours should have been done at the factory, and Sweetwater should have caught it, but there's a general level of carelessness, and this stuff happens.

100% agreed, there is no way in hell im letting the grooves just make themselves if I had a bridge replacement.... or a guitar that wasn’t grooved by the manufacturer. If you’re not too concerned with string spacing then be my guest not my guitar...
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