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Help dating this ES-125 plz real thing? Worth renovating?

#1 User is offline   Opatrix 

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Posted 09 March 2019 - 08:41 AM

So I got this Archtop piece for peanuts, at that time I did not care and know that much about vintage guitars. Looking at it again many years later, I wonder if it is a genuine piece to help me decide if I should restore or not. I’ve attached some pix. Printed with dark ink Inside is: ES 125 and also on the inside (seen through the other hole) the nbr 5936 17.
While researching I found out that the genuine ES vintage Gibsons have a letter which help identify the year, so under those circumstances, could this be a fake? Checking the common serial nbr tracking sites gave me a fat “not found”. Appreciate any help/input!

*cannot post pix :-/

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Posted 09 March 2019 - 10:23 AM

The factory order number 5936 is likely 1950. It would have been the 17th one in that lot (of 40).
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Posted 10 March 2019 - 12:34 AM

View PostOpatrix, on 09 March 2019 - 08:41 AM, said:

While researching I found out that the genuine ES vintage Gibsons have a letter which help identify the year, so under those circumstances, could this be a fake?


Different numbering/lettering systems were used on different models and at different points in Gibson's history. Here's a website with some good general info, including the general guidelines for dating with a factory order number like yours (as ksdaddy did): http://www.guitarhq....son.html#serial

And as usual, I agree with ksdaddy.

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Posted 10 March 2019 - 12:22 PM

View Postksdaddy, on 09 March 2019 - 10:23 AM, said:

The factory order number 5936 is likely 1950. It would have been the 17th one in that lot (of 40).

Thanks a lot!
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Posted 10 March 2019 - 12:22 PM

View PostJimR56, on 10 March 2019 - 12:34 AM, said:

Different numbering/lettering systems were used on different models and at different points in Gibson's history. Here's a website with some good general info, including the general guidelines for dating with a factory order number like yours (as ksdaddy did): http://www.guitarhq....son.html#serial

And as usual, I agree with ksdaddy.


Great, very helpful :)
Thank you
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