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Bogus or Real?? Part II "Caution"

#1 User is offline   daveinspain 

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Posted 19 April 2008 - 04:14 AM

A word of caution... I did a google on, 1989 35TH ANNIVERSARY GIBSON LES PAUL CUSTOM. I found a guitar store in Sydney Australia that have and are selling the same guitar and they also say the guitar is new and unplayed.... The guitar on Ebay is being sold from Florida. What are the chances of two 1989 35TH ANNIVERSARY GIBSON LES PAUL CUSTOM's that are new and unplayed?
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Posted 19 April 2008 - 07:54 AM

[quote name='daveinspain]A word of caution... I did a google on' date=' 1989 35TH ANNIVERSARY GIBSON LES PAUL CUSTOM. I found a guitar store in Sydney Australia that have and are selling the same guitar and they also say the guitar is new and unplayed.... The guitar on Ebay is being sold from Florida. What are the chances of two 1989 35TH ANNIVERSARY GIBSON LES PAUL CUSTOM's that are new and unplayed? [/quote']

I suppose it's very possible. I would suggest that anyone REALLY interested in buying the '89 as the seller if they would have a problem with the nearest Gibson dealer looking at it prior to a purchase.
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Posted 19 April 2008 - 08:02 AM

hey dave, really useful info there... i too find it a little odd that 2 of those beauties are being sold at the same time and "NEW"... hm... mr. chews guitars?

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Posted 19 April 2008 - 02:52 PM

I was just looking for opinions....and you no what they say about opinions....there like assholes...everyone has one.. I'm still not conveinced that it is real...I've compared the headstock logos to others and its different..why no orignal candy or orignal case...??? Awefully Fishy...to bad ya have to worry about this before you can buy..Dammit look at this headstock guys...the son in Gibson looks wrong...

http://www.auctiva.c...,0,0,0&format=0


Compare it to this real one.
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Posted 19 April 2008 - 03:12 PM

Man!...some of you guys have eyes like a Hawk...You dont miss a trick.
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Posted 19 April 2008 - 04:07 PM

Lookie What I Found...another rare 89 Gibby Aniversery...sure are a lot of new ones out there...

http://cgi.ebay.com/...:MEWA:IT&ih=003
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Posted 19 April 2008 - 04:27 PM

[quote name='daveinspain]A word of caution... I did a google on' date=' 1989 35TH ANNIVERSARY GIBSON LES PAUL CUSTOM. I found a guitar store in Sydney Australia that have and are selling the same guitar and they also say the guitar is new and unplayed.... The guitar on Ebay is being sold from Florida. What are the chances of two 1989 35TH ANNIVERSARY GIBSON LES PAUL CUSTOM's that are new and unplayed? [/quote']


They made 100's of these versions based on the 57 custom black beauty with 3 HB. They were made only 2 yrs 89-90, so collecting them for that reason is very high !

Rip: Case candy was not the thing in 89 !!!!. You got a care guide, check sheet and a wrench.

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Posted 19 April 2008 - 04:33 PM

A little rough around the headstock...
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Posted 19 April 2008 - 05:09 PM

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I was just looking for opinions....and you no what they say about opinions....there like assholes...everyone has one.. I'm still not conveinced that it is real...I've compared the headstock logos to others and its different..why no orignal candy or orignal case...??? Awefully Fishy...to bad ya have to worry about this before you can buy..Dammit look at this headstock guys...the son in Gibson looks wrong...

http://www.auctiva.c...,0,0,0&format=0


Compare it to this real one.
http://cgi.ebay.com/...bayphotohosting
Dude it the correct gibson custom headstock engraved and inlayed logo for that period/era. You can not compare it to the newer and different gibson logo that has the open "B" & "O". Sorry but you are wrong. You need to listen and look at it. Even if you don't have a trianed eye to look for the real hard things to forge, just look at the closed "B" & "O" then look at your newer gibby It's got the,, what ,, yea that's right open "B" & "O" and it's a completly different style, anyways you are kinda right because what you are comparing them to, yea they are different. You are just comparing them with the newer incorrect style/era/period logo.
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Posted 19 April 2008 - 05:25 PM

so is there any chance they are all real? i just find it strange to have so many being sold at the same time, or is this normal for a 100 run of an expensive guitar in mint condition?

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Posted 19 April 2008 - 05:44 PM

That's a good point, but if someone can forge the logo that good, (and I have never seen one that even comes even close) and then do that good of a job on the rest of the axe, were all in trouble, because these a---- holes have just reached a new level, and you can bet if that has happened, we will being see a lot more on brand new old stock usa gibson's that we can not tell the difference from the real thing. That second one for sale has some player wear, like palm sweat discoloration on the bridge and pickup covers, I would not consider that one new old stock. So unless there is another one, there is only 1 out there.

I don't know maybe they have kidnapped a few line workers from the usa custom shop and are forcing them to make/create these forgeries now somewhere in a usa under ground sweat camp that's guarded with guys walking around with a.k's. Any gibson usa employees missing.
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Posted 19 April 2008 - 06:01 PM

Here is another new unplayed 1989 35th anniversary 3 pick-up black custom

http://www.guitarcra...au/GLPC1989.htm
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1997 Blueshawk, red/gold hardware,2 blues 90 pups with rotary vary sound selector
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2007 JP EDS 1275, Jimmy Page pups
2007 LP classic Heritage Cherry Sunburst, 496R and 500T ceramic humbucker pups
2007 LP Robot Guitar 1st edition, 490R and 498T pups
2007 LP Custom black/gold hardware, 490R and 498T pups
2007 Brain May, Red Special 3 Andeson Tri-Sonics pups
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Posted 19 April 2008 - 06:11 PM

WOW, Some-thin just might be up. you guys could be right on this one. Wow, 2, now 2 new old 1989 stock, what are the chances if they are real. I can tell they'd be real high. It could be a better chance possibly now that they are a forgery, but man I'am tell-ya The logo's right-on I have never ever seen a good usa headstock forgery, let a lone one that looks to be exact on all the usual 5 or 6 points. How about this, there got to be plenty of 80's les paul custom owners here at the forum, maybe they can post close ups of the headstock and we can see for sure.
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Posted 19 April 2008 - 07:16 PM

Could be that one of them is real... The other is stolen pics?
1971 SG Standard Lyre Maestro tremolo, Cherry, original patent number sticker humbuckers
1983 Corvus, old gold, 3 single coil pups with 5 way selector switch
1997 Blueshawk, red/gold hardware,2 blues 90 pups with rotary vary sound selector
2006 Gretsch Chat Atkins 6120DSW orange/gold hardware, 2 Dynasonic pups
2006 LP project, refinished with a gold leaf top, Seymour Duncan pups with Jimmy Page set-up
2006 Johnny A custom, 57 Classic pups
2007 JP EDS 1275, Jimmy Page pups
2007 LP classic Heritage Cherry Sunburst, 496R and 500T ceramic humbucker pups
2007 LP Robot Guitar 1st edition, 490R and 498T pups
2007 LP Custom black/gold hardware, 490R and 498T pups
2007 Brain May, Red Special 3 Andeson Tri-Sonics pups
2008 Alhambra Acoustic model Auditorium Luthier. Hand painted one of a kind...
2011 Fender Strat Mahogany Crimson Red 2 Tex Mex single coils, 1 humbucker and S1 switch
2013 Fender Acoustic CD140SCE NAT

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Posted 19 April 2008 - 07:25 PM

Could be, but one is in the u.s. the other I think, what out of the country.
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Posted 19 April 2008 - 08:30 PM

Yeah but you can down load pics from any where or ask some to send you pics saying you are interested in a guitar... Maybe I am just Paranoid...
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1983 Corvus, old gold, 3 single coil pups with 5 way selector switch
1997 Blueshawk, red/gold hardware,2 blues 90 pups with rotary vary sound selector
2006 Gretsch Chat Atkins 6120DSW orange/gold hardware, 2 Dynasonic pups
2006 LP project, refinished with a gold leaf top, Seymour Duncan pups with Jimmy Page set-up
2006 Johnny A custom, 57 Classic pups
2007 JP EDS 1275, Jimmy Page pups
2007 LP classic Heritage Cherry Sunburst, 496R and 500T ceramic humbucker pups
2007 LP Robot Guitar 1st edition, 490R and 498T pups
2007 LP Custom black/gold hardware, 490R and 498T pups
2007 Brain May, Red Special 3 Andeson Tri-Sonics pups
2008 Alhambra Acoustic model Auditorium Luthier. Hand painted one of a kind...
2011 Fender Strat Mahogany Crimson Red 2 Tex Mex single coils, 1 humbucker and S1 switch
2013 Fender Acoustic CD140SCE NAT

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Posted 20 April 2008 - 02:47 AM

daveinspains´ possible explanation makes sense... it wouldnt be the first time those ebayers use pics found on the net to sell crap. a while ago someone was selling a fake and when confronted by a forum member (i think it was doublesixx) he said he got the pics from the net as he didnt have a camera, so he searched for pics of a guitar like his.

c´mon, you can afford a 5k guitar but not a camera or even a cell phone with one?

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Posted 20 April 2008 - 02:49 AM

What the hell happened to this page ???

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Posted 20 April 2008 - 02:55 AM

Everything looks correct on these but it's going to be hard to figure this one out. We may need some assistance with this one. Somebody buy one to find out!

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Posted 20 April 2008 - 03:04 AM

lets do this... each of us contribute with some money, and we buy it to see how it was, of course it should be sent to me first... then i´ll send it to you guys... he

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