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Known problems with Maestros

#1 User is offline   bigbike4 

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Posted 17 March 2010 - 10:39 AM

Hi all:
Just had given to me a Maestro 6 string acoustic. Nice looking instrument-black, dreadnaught sized. Am looking for any known problems with the instruments. YES I realize this is an entry level $100 guitar. So far the only problem I found with it is it was missing a bridge pin! The instrument was technically used, but the past owner only seems to have strummed it about 100 times before tucking it away. What they did with the bridge pin is beyond me. So for $1.19 investment (new bridge pin) I have a nice sounding instrument.

The wood in this one seems to be spruce-top, bottom and sides, but I know the current listing is for Spruce tops with NATO back and sides-but what the heck is NATO?

How about tuners? Surprisingly these are enclosed tuners-I was actually expecting open tuners on a cheapo entry guitar, and these are NOT slipping at all.

Guess what I am looking for is how sturdy are the bridges glued? How about necks and frets?

tonally this instrument sounds wonderful with full rich bass and good mid range and a nice top end. who knows maybe I got lucky and got one that was put together well. All notes sound crisp and clear all over the fingerboard.

Since this is my first instrument with a slightly radiused fretboard, and substancially wider than anything I currently play it is taking some getting use to. Does anybody know WHAT the radius degree is?
My current collection of instruments:
2009 Gibson Maestro black acoustic
2006 Gold Tone White Layde 5 string banjo
2003 Morgan Monroe MDX4 Apalacian 5 string bluegrass banjo
1895 S S Stewart 5 string banjo
1900's S S Stewart mandolin banjo
1890's S S Stewart 'taterbug mandolin
1920's S S Stewart 19 fret tenor banjo.
2000 O.S. 21 chord Apalacian CE autoharp
1 home made wormy walnut 4 string mt. dulcimer
1 acquired, maker unknown 3 string mt. dulcimer

I may not know what I am doing musically, but it sure is fun!

You can mess with my house, you can mess with my instruments, but TOUCH my motorcycle and you are dead meat!

#2 User is offline   meanstreak 

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Posted 18 March 2010 - 12:18 AM

I had a Yamaha with a solid spruce top and nato back/sides and is sounded amazing.

From Wikipedia -

Nato wood is a collective name for wood from Mora-trees. The best-known species are Mora excelsa (Mora) and Mora gonggrijpii (Morabukea), with the latter contributing less (occurring in a smaller area).

The wood may vary in appearance, with reddish brown being the dominant color, but in varying shades and often with darker or lighter streaks. The wood is dense and not particularly pleasant; it is not very easy to dry or to work. However, the wood is available in large dimensions and is well above average in properties such as resistance to wear, strength and durability. It finishes well. It is used for heavy construction, industrial flooring, railroad ties, etc. Smaller billets are used to build acoustic and electric guitars.

Because of its availability and price, many Chinese and Korean imported guitars use nato in their inexpensive guitars. BC Rich guitars, Eastwood guitars, and others manufacturers often refer to nato as "eastern mahogany" due to the use of the more expensive mahogany wood in higher grade instruments.


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#3 User is offline   bigbike4 

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Posted 18 March 2010 - 09:31 AM

Thanks for the info about the Nato. I have to say that I am impressed, and generally not very often, with entry level instruments. The sound is pretty darn near perfect, you can't distinquish it from high end-read Martin D41's and such.

I have NO fret problems, string buzzes or anything else. The sound is crisp and clear all over the fretboard. Maybe I was the lucky one-who knows. The only "issue" I have is why no pickguard? The current models all have pick guards but then again the current models are all blond or tobacco sunburst and mine is BLACK with ivoroid binding. Since I expect to do rythym work with it it is not that big of an issue, but would prefer not to have a bazillion scratches in the black lacquer finish. Any ideas for a cheap, clear or black material to use for a pick guard and where to get it?
My current collection of instruments:
2009 Gibson Maestro black acoustic
2006 Gold Tone White Layde 5 string banjo
2003 Morgan Monroe MDX4 Apalacian 5 string bluegrass banjo
1895 S S Stewart 5 string banjo
1900's S S Stewart mandolin banjo
1890's S S Stewart 'taterbug mandolin
1920's S S Stewart 19 fret tenor banjo.
2000 O.S. 21 chord Apalacian CE autoharp
1 home made wormy walnut 4 string mt. dulcimer
1 acquired, maker unknown 3 string mt. dulcimer

I may not know what I am doing musically, but it sure is fun!

You can mess with my house, you can mess with my instruments, but TOUCH my motorcycle and you are dead meat!

#4 User is offline   meanstreak 

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 02:40 AM

You may have to email them your soundhole measurements to be sure it fits, but these guys are pretty cheap -

http://www.wdmusic.c...tic_guards.html

you could also get osmething fancy made by these guys if you want -

http://pickguards.us/index.html


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1994 Epiphone Hummingbird - Fishman pickup
1998 Epiphone PR-100 NA
2004 Epiphone Masterbilt EF-500R VS - L.R. Baggs Element pickup
2005 Epiphone Masterbilt AJ-500R NS - L.R. Baggs iBeam pickup
2008 Epiphone Masterbilt DR-500M NS - L.R. Baggs iBeam pickup
2009 Epiphone Dove Black - custom black pick guard, L.R. Baggs Element pickup
2009 Epiphone Masterbilt AJ-500M VS - L.R. Baggs Element pickup
2011 Gibson J-45 Standard VS

#5 User is offline   bigbike4 

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Posted 26 March 2010 - 10:27 AM

Thanks Meanstreak.

Do ya have any idea if the fretboard radius is the same as with most Gibson guitars-20 radius?
My current collection of instruments:
2009 Gibson Maestro black acoustic
2006 Gold Tone White Layde 5 string banjo
2003 Morgan Monroe MDX4 Apalacian 5 string bluegrass banjo
1895 S S Stewart 5 string banjo
1900's S S Stewart mandolin banjo
1890's S S Stewart 'taterbug mandolin
1920's S S Stewart 19 fret tenor banjo.
2000 O.S. 21 chord Apalacian CE autoharp
1 home made wormy walnut 4 string mt. dulcimer
1 acquired, maker unknown 3 string mt. dulcimer

I may not know what I am doing musically, but it sure is fun!

You can mess with my house, you can mess with my instruments, but TOUCH my motorcycle and you are dead meat!

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Posted 05 December 2010 - 11:06 PM

Not sure if it helps any or not, but Maestro instruments are geared towards the education field, so you should get quality construction where it counts, using less expensive materials. I have a Maestro flying V... it's 3/4 size but absolutely screams. It was my grandson's first guitar, and it's held up like a much higher quality instrument.


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 zigzag, on 27 April 2011 - 08:44 AM, said:

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 02:52 AM

I bought mine for $75 and I absolutely love it.
My current collection of instruments:
2009 Gibson Maestro acoustic
2012 Epiphone Wildkat Royale
Mitchell mandolin

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