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Gibson SG 3 and SG custom

#61 User is offline   tom brown 

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Posted 29 June 2010 - 04:17 PM

no rew, thing is it looks more like a chicken foot then head so i thought you were right......



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Posted 29 June 2010 - 07:54 PM

Rewddawg1 - Well... I guess your right about keeping it as it is. I just don't want to go out and pay 400-500 for a SG3 if I could do it on this guitar. I am going to take it to a techie to check it out. I prefer freelance techs that in-store ones because they do a better and more personalized job according to what you want. If it's not possible to put humbuckers, then Ill just keep it as is and use it for certain recording tracks. I think I just want to take it to band practices sometimes instead of the Les Paul, but I feel its not as punchy with single coils. What other types of single coils could I look for to add more bottom end? Any advice?

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Posted 29 June 2010 - 08:10 PM

Well one way to go is to get double coils I think you call them. They are humbuckers where the coils are on top of each other instead of side by side>

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Gibson 2007 SG3-HCGH
Gibson 2007 New Century Flying V (LE)
Epiphone 2008 Prophecy SG Custom EX
Epiphone 2009 Prophecy SG Custom GX W/Gibson Dirty Fingers pups.
Ibanez 2007 XPT 700 Xiphos
Taylor 2004 Big Baby
Marshall JCM 2000 TSL 602
Genz-Benz 2 x 12 ext. cab
Orange Tiny Terror Amp Head
Roland 30X Cube
Pedals: Dunlop Jimi Hendrix Wah, Boss Metal Zone & Metal Core, Ibanez Echo/Delay & Chorus/Flanger

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#64 User is offline   tom brown 

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Posted 30 June 2010 - 05:17 AM

Thing is,, if i may butt in, i did that ,tried to chase a gibson tone through epi, schecters, esp's. and you can get a better sound duke, but in the end it won't be the same as the sg 3.....if you got the itch for one it will never go away, you can run, but you can't hide, (lol) you will end up, in the end, buying the guitar you want ....trust me went through it for years, and in the end its cheaper to cut your losses , sell one, and use part the money to get to get what you really need to get the sound you want....then you can rock without the distraction of not being "there" with the power and tone you like...

The "stacked " humbuckers that rew mentioned are very good these days, not sure if gibson makes them, but they will not be cheap, and if it don;t work the way you want, you may have de'valued that sg 3 single ....even if you put them back your stuck with 3 humbuckers.....

i mean, i went without alot of things to get this one, so i am not rich....looked for two long years for a mint one...


duke, how much was that black sg 3 in usa dollars? that looked real nice...




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Posted 30 June 2010 - 04:07 PM

rew i like the sound of them with the marshalls, and i did listen to riff guy a few times, i am gonna try to do some of his stuff. tell me, is the marshall your favorite, if you could only have one amp?


hey there is a ebony sg 3 on ebay, the guy said it was one of 400, so i emailed and asked where he got the info, he says gibson told him there were 400 ebony, 400 cherry made, wonder if this is the same, he calls it a limited.....heres the link....


lol, its gone, was there this morning, must have run out will check again for it....


rock on

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Posted 30 June 2010 - 04:41 PM

tom brown - It was $700.00 american... They are selling it as used actually. Yea its pretty sweet ehh? Guys, now that we were talking about changing pickups and maybe finding a new one... I just found this:

http://cgi.ebay.ca/g...=item3cae09dc12

This guy is selling my same SG, but he says on the page (please look), that the pickups were changed by the previous owner and that it had the single coils... So its the same one I have. This means that I can reverse this guitar to humbuckers :P:P:P I am soooo happy!!!!! You guys are right about not spending too much and finding the SG 3 ... but the reason why i am insisting is because I like the finish of this SG... thats the only reason. This guy is selling this guitar used for $900.00 I guess because it was modified. Something interesting is that this dude added the pickups on top of the pick-guard... it looks a bit odd... but i guess thats ok.
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#67 User is offline   tom brown 

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Posted 01 July 2010 - 09:23 AM

mduke, i looked at my sg3 , and the pickup rings at the neck pickup are almost flush, and the middle pickup and ring have more height, and the bridge is the highest......that one on ebay doesn't look like the pickups are installed corrrectly, but its hard to tell by the picture, ....understand that will affect tone .....

i really like the look of that black sg, you try that guitar??

hey rew, i have a slight problem with my sg guitar case....it actually came with a les paul case, same as my studio, but the lock was broke, no big deal, but the sg doesn't quite fit right...

the body is elevated a little near the neck, actually 1.5 inches, which causes the neck not to rest in its spot, its also elevated a bit out of the neck rest...


was thinking of cutting out the material that elevates the body, seeing as the lock is broke and i don't have any dough for a good sg case, but afraid i will totally screw it up.....

i only latch two latchs, because it compress the fret real hard when i close it all the way do to the elevated neck......because of that, two latches, ( on either end) when it gets humid i think its the neck is moving more then normal, goes out of tune....any info is appreciated....


oh, and rock the house tonight, its friday...lol

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Posted 01 July 2010 - 01:03 PM

Hey Tom, I like your enthusiasm for the weekend but it's only Thursday. That doesn't mean we can't still rock the house down. I don't know what to tell you about your case. Even a cheap Gator case or something that fits correctly would be better than what you are describing. Not sure I would use the case. Even keeping your guitar on a good stand would be better until you can get a case. I also looked at the pics of the SG Mduke was looking at . The pup rings look as if he put them on in the wrong order or they are not the right pup rings. It also could be looking strange because they are mounted on the pickguard not quite sure? Peace Bros. and Keep On Rockin!!!!
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My Toys:
Gibson 2007 SG3-HCGH
Gibson 2007 New Century Flying V (LE)
Epiphone 2008 Prophecy SG Custom EX
Epiphone 2009 Prophecy SG Custom GX W/Gibson Dirty Fingers pups.
Ibanez 2007 XPT 700 Xiphos
Taylor 2004 Big Baby
Marshall JCM 2000 TSL 602
Genz-Benz 2 x 12 ext. cab
Orange Tiny Terror Amp Head
Roland 30X Cube
Pedals: Dunlop Jimi Hendrix Wah, Boss Metal Zone & Metal Core, Ibanez Echo/Delay & Chorus/Flanger

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#69 User is offline   tom brown 

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Posted 01 July 2010 - 05:13 PM

rew ,

actually worked ten days in a row, now have three off, back to work 4th of july so i can't remember what day it is, lol.....

Those rings, or pickup mounting are really off in that picture duke showed us, refitting a guitar is never simple, as i have done a few, and failed at a few more...i been trying to tell duke, nut in is easy

musicians friend had a sg case for 50, but the reviewers said it dones not fit right, and i have to pay shipping....

that sg 3 is back on ebay, is this the same as ours? says the serial number is 137 or sumthing...heres the link...he says in a email to me and on ebay only 400 were made, can you confirm,lol, i know its alot work but i am not sure where to look....

http://cgi.ebay.com/...=item3a5c755856

this is a short version of what i listened to when i was like 12,lol



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Posted 01 July 2010 - 06:18 PM

There has been a couple of SG-3's on Ebay making this claim. I called Gibson and they could not verify how many SG-3's were made. Oddly it appears that guitar has the shorter serial# whatever that means. The odd thing is all the SG-3's I see for sale are ebony. I have not seen any Heritage Cherry for sale.
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My Toys:
Gibson 2007 SG3-HCGH
Gibson 2007 New Century Flying V (LE)
Epiphone 2008 Prophecy SG Custom EX
Epiphone 2009 Prophecy SG Custom GX W/Gibson Dirty Fingers pups.
Ibanez 2007 XPT 700 Xiphos
Taylor 2004 Big Baby
Marshall JCM 2000 TSL 602
Genz-Benz 2 x 12 ext. cab
Orange Tiny Terror Amp Head
Roland 30X Cube
Pedals: Dunlop Jimi Hendrix Wah, Boss Metal Zone & Metal Core, Ibanez Echo/Delay & Chorus/Flanger

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#71 User is offline   tom brown 

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Posted 01 July 2010 - 06:53 PM

there was one cherry awhile back with a 1200 buy it now but was on and then gone, that was the only other....

wonder if there is anyone more knowledgeable then the person you spoke with rew.....later

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Posted 02 July 2010 - 03:30 PM

rew check out this custom real mint i think..........





http://cgi.ebay.com/...=item2a0829c7d5
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Posted 02 July 2010 - 07:37 PM

I don't play LP's but it looks nice except for the close up on the side of the neck. It looks like it has been knocked over or dropped. Hard to tell because it is focused on such a small area. I wouldn't pay that much for the guitar. He also has a strict return policy. Those Black Beauty's were beautiful guitars new.

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Gibson 2007 SG3-HCGH
Gibson 2007 New Century Flying V (LE)
Epiphone 2008 Prophecy SG Custom EX
Epiphone 2009 Prophecy SG Custom GX W/Gibson Dirty Fingers pups.
Ibanez 2007 XPT 700 Xiphos
Taylor 2004 Big Baby
Marshall JCM 2000 TSL 602
Genz-Benz 2 x 12 ext. cab
Orange Tiny Terror Amp Head
Roland 30X Cube
Pedals: Dunlop Jimi Hendrix Wah, Boss Metal Zone & Metal Core, Ibanez Echo/Delay & Chorus/Flanger

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#74 User is offline   tom brown 

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Posted 03 July 2010 - 06:43 AM

rew your right, and alot of lp's on ebay seem to be a bit overpriced, and some are close to what they go for new...and damaged to.....


thats the reason i like the lp studio i have, has all the same parts as a lp, bridge, tailpiece, tuners, and bb pro's to boot...has a hollow body which was weight relief i believe, but you can get some nice acoustic sounds from this guitar by adjusting the pickups, which are copies of the pat pending using uneven windings. and the pickups also roar for electric sounds..heres the one i have....gibson had said it was based on the black beauty design.....


http://guitars.music...itar?sku=517030


i have the faded cherry and got the lp hard case for 699 before they went up....If you do the math, just to buy the parts i think is like 500, so i think for someone after a new gibson any of the studios are a real good value, and i think a very fair price.....

was gonna play it yesterday but you know i plugged in the sg 3 and got distracted, lol.....


rock the house this weekend.......tom
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Posted 05 July 2010 - 03:40 PM

hey rew


what ups rocker,

hey you didn't like that king crimson or what ?


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Posted 06 July 2010 - 12:50 PM

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hey rew


what ups rocker,

hey you didn't like that king crimson or what ?


tom

Hey Bro what's up? I've been gone for a few days. I'm not sure what you are referring to as King Crimson. The band or your guitar. Like I've said before, I love the looks of LP's and they sound incredible. I believe the LP you have has the Burstbucker pups and sound excellent. I like the looks of fadeds. How much Nitro finish can you feel on your guitar, esp. the body. The big music store close to where I live does not have any fadeds in stock so I have no way to reference them. Keep on Rockin!!!
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My Toys:
Gibson 2007 SG3-HCGH
Gibson 2007 New Century Flying V (LE)
Epiphone 2008 Prophecy SG Custom EX
Epiphone 2009 Prophecy SG Custom GX W/Gibson Dirty Fingers pups.
Ibanez 2007 XPT 700 Xiphos
Taylor 2004 Big Baby
Marshall JCM 2000 TSL 602
Genz-Benz 2 x 12 ext. cab
Orange Tiny Terror Amp Head
Roland 30X Cube
Pedals: Dunlop Jimi Hendrix Wah, Boss Metal Zone & Metal Core, Ibanez Echo/Delay & Chorus/Flanger

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Posted 06 July 2010 - 04:38 PM

Rew welcome back my brother,

this was 1972 king crimson band which was my favorite back in the day....this is actually a shorted version...



jazz rock fusion, take a pick.... but its seems still "relevent" if i dare use that word, today, to my ears.....


you know i am not sure about the nitro, i can feel it , the neck is not sticky feels thinner then on the body.... and the guitar really plays nice unplugged because of the nitro and semi hollow design....if i had my way i'd do this to it...
if you watch it all, its a beautiful guitar..the end shows the back



They stopped making them with the bb pros, now i think they have the 490's.....i will post the specs later....


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Posted 06 July 2010 - 04:50 PM

rew heres the specs from our so called friend,

http://guitars.music...itar?sku=517536

i figured out a way to get to the older guitars on MF....a search won't bring that link up...

don't read to many reviews on there , thats how i go the itch.....ebay is loaded with these.....

500 on a good day for mint condition, a steal i think......


later rock star
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Posted 06 July 2010 - 04:57 PM

Tom, Sorry I missed your first post of King Crimson. They really rocked in their day. I used to also listen to MC5, Blue Cheer etc. There was alot more good hard rock in the 60's & 70's than alot of people realize. I think more people are familiar with the April Wine cover of that song than King Crimson just because of the airplay & shear # of rockers out there. Also if you have the 490R/498T pups they also sound amazing in a LP. Peace Bro.
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My Toys:
Gibson 2007 SG3-HCGH
Gibson 2007 New Century Flying V (LE)
Epiphone 2008 Prophecy SG Custom EX
Epiphone 2009 Prophecy SG Custom GX W/Gibson Dirty Fingers pups.
Ibanez 2007 XPT 700 Xiphos
Taylor 2004 Big Baby
Marshall JCM 2000 TSL 602
Genz-Benz 2 x 12 ext. cab
Orange Tiny Terror Amp Head
Roland 30X Cube
Pedals: Dunlop Jimi Hendrix Wah, Boss Metal Zone & Metal Core, Ibanez Echo/Delay & Chorus/Flanger

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Posted 08 July 2010 - 05:42 PM

Hey Tom check out these old videos in my previous post. Alot of people were not exposed to bands like these in the days. Hope you like.
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My Toys:
Gibson 2007 SG3-HCGH
Gibson 2007 New Century Flying V (LE)
Epiphone 2008 Prophecy SG Custom EX
Epiphone 2009 Prophecy SG Custom GX W/Gibson Dirty Fingers pups.
Ibanez 2007 XPT 700 Xiphos
Taylor 2004 Big Baby
Marshall JCM 2000 TSL 602
Genz-Benz 2 x 12 ext. cab
Orange Tiny Terror Amp Head
Roland 30X Cube
Pedals: Dunlop Jimi Hendrix Wah, Boss Metal Zone & Metal Core, Ibanez Echo/Delay & Chorus/Flanger

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