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Lyre Maestro Trem or Bigsby Trem?

#1 User is offline   BryanFoFyan 

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 05:00 PM

im thinking about putting a tremolo system on my Gibson SG so what are the pros and cons vs the two? how hard are they to install if anyone has done it and the average price of each to have professionaly installed?
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Posted 22 July 2010 - 05:14 PM

The Maestro won't cover the stop anchors.

If you go with a Vibramate and a Bigsby B5 there's no drilling and the stop anchors are covered.
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#3 User is offline   BryanFoFyan 

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 05:31 PM

i got ya. ill look into the vibramate/bigsby. wouldnt the height of the 2 combined or even the bigsby alone keep the lid of an SG hardshell from closing?
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#4 User is offline   BentonC 

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 06:02 PM

I don't know about the Bigsby, but the Maestro shouldn't stop the case from closing as long as the arm isn't bent too far up.

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 07:09 PM

Big fan of the Maestro, personally as it adorns my '67 and is simply bad-a$$
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Posted 23 July 2010 - 06:33 AM

Yes, I've got a Maestro - it works great and I really like the look. As others have pointed out before, Vibramate is coming out with a adaptor for installing a Maestro to the stop anchors without drilling. Check it -

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 08:17 AM

no way. is there a release date? i couldnt find one on that link
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#8 User is offline   BigKahune 

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 10:16 AM

Sorry, don't have a release date.

But you could give them a call: 609-466-8101

If you find out, please let us know.
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Posted 23 July 2010 - 11:11 AM

i called and they said they dont have a definate date but they are looking to release it before the end of this year
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Posted 23 July 2010 - 12:09 PM

Thanks.

It's nice to have an idea of when they're gonna release it.
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#11 User is offline   Kyle W 

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 01:14 PM

I have an SG Special with a Bigsby and a faded SG Special with a Maestro (long box without the Lyre engraving), and I like the Maestro better. My Bigsby wouldn't hold tune, so much so that I pulled the spring out and blocked it off with a Marshall amp knob. The Maestro I have seems to keep tune perfectly for such a simple design, and even though it doesn't fully hide the bridge posts it looks so good I never notice them. I just acquired an old used Bigsby B-5 to install on a Les Paul Special which I hope will do better than my other one (I'm hoping maybe I just got a bad spring or something.) And both fit in their cases with the bar on just fine for me.
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