Sheraton II vs. Casino
Posted 28 January 2008 - 02:22 AM
I'm not a fan of gold hardware, but I sure liked the feel and sound of the Sheraton.
Posted 28 January 2008 - 02:45 AM
I've also never owned a Sheraton so I cannot give a direct comparison but they are two different guitars.
The Casino has P90 pickups, the Sheraton has humbuckers. The sound is different. Personally I like the sound of the P90s better, but that is a matter of taste.
The Casino is a hollow body guitar and the Sheraton has a center block of wood down the middle of the body. This affects the sound. Again, it is a matter of taste.
The Casino will probably sound louder when it is not plugged in, as it is an acoustic guitar. Supposedly the block of wood down the middle will give the Sherry more sustain, but since I don't own both, I cannot verify that (perhaps someone who owns both can help here).
Also, the Casino is probably lighter.
But the Sherry has a much nicer looking headstock.
My advice is to try to find a music store that has both and try them out. Plug them in, set the volume and tone controls the same and listen to them both. Then change the tone controls and listen again.
If the store has a Casino and not Sheraton, but has a Dot or Gibson ES335, you can listen to the Dot or 335 in place of the Sherry and get an idea of how they will sound. Since they have similar body styles and pickups they will sound about as close as you can get (please correct me if I'm wrong here).
I know that buying an unknown entity is taking a bit of a chance. If you have a local guitar store, that is the best way to continue your research.
Insights and incites by Notes
Posted 28 January 2008 - 03:20 AM
The neck on my Sheraton feels much heftier than the necks on any of my Casinos, but even more so than my Korean Casino, which has an almost Ric-like neck to my feel--very thin.
It's all subjective of course, I'm probably inclined to lean towards my Casinos more than the Sheraton, but a lot of that has to do with the fact I really enjoy noodling the Casino unplugged. The Casino does this much better than the Sherry for reasons stated above.
I play mostly Beatles stuff, nothing fancy mostly rhythm, and I find I can get very Grestch-like tones from my Sheraton.
Hope that helps a little!
Posted 28 January 2008 - 04:00 AM
I might add that I play some rhythm but mostly lead in my duo http://www.s-cats.com and that we do middle of the road music for a middle-aged to adult market. You can view the songlist on that site to see what kind of material I play if you are interested.
Note: the audio demo uses all synthesized instruments (keyboards and wind synthesizer) as it was made from a live recording, on the gig, and neither the sax, flute, nor guitar tracks came out balanced on my Archos "i-pod-ish" recorder so I didn't use those tracks. The voice-over promo announcement was added later.
With my budget priced Zoom GIX effects pedal/amp simulator/direct box I can coax nice cool jazz tones, clean and edgy rock-a-billy sounds, distorted rock tones, and even "flat top" acoustic tones out of my Casino.
I love the neck (I think they call it slim taper) and it is very close to my vintage Gibson ES-335 (just a tiny bit wider at the nut, probably the difference between US and Metric measurements).
Posted 28 January 2008 - 04:11 PM
I think the center block on the Sheratons and Dots (which you should also consider trying) is also to reduce the feedback generated by fully hollow bodied instruments.
Posted 28 January 2008 - 04:18 PM
The way we usually describe the difference is; his looks prettier, mine sounds meaner... :-) But the Casino can also sound very chimey and shimery.. I like the way it can go from growly to glassy.. It's very versatile..
The only thing I don't like about the Casino is the price... I think the Sherry is more worthy of the $600 price tag, with all its abalone and pearl inlay and the binding and purfling and all the cosmetics... It IS a pretty guitar.. The Casino is a little more basic, cosmetically.. I think the only reason it doesn't cost the same as a Dot is because they throw on a $200 "Beatle Tax"... I hate to say it, beacuse I LOVE the guitar (and the Beatles, obviously), but give us a break here!
Anyway, to sum up... They're both great guitars.. But I think the Casino has a broader tonal range... That's just my opinion.. You should do what Notes said and A/B them side by side.. No one can tell you which is the best guitar for you..
Posted 28 July 2012 - 12:31 AM
Posted 28 July 2012 - 09:47 AM
the Casino, is Upper Fret Access! The Sheraton is much better, for that. But, if you're not a
"Lead" guitar player, that may not be a consideration? The combination, of P-90 pickups, and a
fully hollow body, on the Casino, give it a unique tone, and openness. The Sheraton, IS heavier,
with it's Center Block construction, but is much less prone to feedback, at high volume. So,
depending on what type of music, you play, and your own personal preferences, either might work
for you. They both have their strengths and weaknesses. Although, personally, I feel the Sheraton
has more pro's, than con's! But, I love my Casino, for what it does, as well. So...???
Try them both, as well as the "Dot" model, and see which one you bond with most!
Posted 28 July 2012 - 11:49 AM
Somebody mentioned value for money given the relative high price of the Casino. I would guess it comes down to economy of scale. I used to work for an Epiphone dealer, and for every Casino we sold two Sheratons and three or four Dots. Not that the Casinos were particularly hard to sell but they were certainly more of a niche product. The ES330, without the benefit of three Beatles endorsing the model, has often been out of production altogether.