jannusguy Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 might go look at one sight unseen. has a truss rod and script logo (not banner). no FON # or any interior markings, and according to fab flat tops, that's typical for this year. how do i know the neck is hog and not poplar which was being used during the war. 4pc. top vs. 2? which is the correct bridge, AJ style or belly up? i've seen both. maybe somebody here has a pic of a '44 and could post? thx! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 If no banner, then almost verifiably not a '42-'45 J-45! According to legend, the '46 was characterized by a script logo but no Banner, sort of a transition to the later block letter logo. But as I read and understand it, the war era J-45 always had both the banner and the script logo. Fred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jannusguy Posted May 31, 2008 Author Share Posted May 31, 2008 great. should be fun trying to figure out what this is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rscott4079 Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 I think that it's the general assumption that a Script Non-Banner logo Gibson is a 46 or 47. Before that they had banners, after that they had the modern block script. Either way, it's probably going to be a great guitar. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 A script only Logo indicates a 46 as mentioned above. They most often do not have a FON. Should have a small rectangle bridge (like a AJ). Should have a two piece sitka top. Mahogany neck block would be correct. The sunburst on these my be just a bit different in color. You see more J45, SJs, LGs with the script only logo, the J50 Script only logo is quite scarce and the guitar Bob Dylan played early in his career. The neck will be mahogany, it is the neck block that was sometimes poplar during the war. Top is most probably two piece. If four piece the joints are on the wings in the lower bout. TM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jannusguy Posted May 31, 2008 Author Share Posted May 31, 2008 great info, thanks everybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jannusguy Posted May 31, 2008 Author Share Posted May 31, 2008 the J50 Script only logo is quite scarce and the guitar Bob Dylan played early in his career. TM one more thing on this TM, would the J50 still have been a natural finish vs. the VSB? thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 one more thing on this TM, would the J50 still have been a natural finish vs. the VSB? Yes. There were some natural topped J45 made during the war years. They were called J45N. These guitars are very scarce. The first introduction of the J50 was around 46, 47. It was a natural topped guitar. This is a guitar certainly worth taking a look at. The script only guitar is one of my favorites. I have a J45 and J50 from circa 1947. They sound very different. The J50 is very lightly built and has the tone of the war time guitars the J45 is heavier and more of a 50s sound. Please let us know about your discovery. TM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 TM, as always, is correct. For more information, check my registry, Banner Gibsons Registry and, in particular, the transitional registry. That should give you a pretty good idea of the post war, script logo J-45 and J-50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambler Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 Fred and TM nailed the basics, Rob. Here's some specs and a few pics. Be interested in hearing how your "meet up" goes. JK specs here http://www.provide.net/~cfh/gibson6.html#j45 pic of 4 j45s. L to R 59 52 46 (what you are checking out) 43 http://www.provide.net/~woodrails/galpics/j45s.jpg 46 j45 http://www.provide.net/~woodrails/galpics/j45_46c.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jannusguy Posted June 2, 2008 Author Share Posted June 2, 2008 well, so far nothing has happened. the guy flaked out on me. after our initial conversation, where he asked me to estimate value on a guitar that was sight unseen, he sent me an email stating his price was 4K firm. i told him before i would consider anything, i had to at least see a picture of it, via email, in order to determine it was what he said it was and to justify a 4 hour drive. he can't find his camera! whaddaya gonna do...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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