Ron G Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 The neck pickup is noticeably louder than the bridge. I have nothing to compare. Normal? Note: Pickup height doesn't matter - tried it. Note: According to Epiphone, the bridge pickup is hotter. See http://www.epiphone.com/news.asp?NewsID=68 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copper1281734000 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 I have the same thing on my les paul. I just turn the volume down on my neck to 4.5 and bridge is 10. The only bad thing is in the middle position, the neck is barely noticeable, so I just turn it up again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rraguse Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 More Dot Studio Whoas. They make a great gift, I'm giving mine away in favor of an AS83. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickblues1 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Pickup height does not matter????? If that is true you have a different problem with the electronics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyelcrrt1281733995 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 If these are the stock pup on a Dot Studio, you should have a 57classic in the neck, and a 57(CH) in the bridge. The hot bridge pup is designed to equalize volume levels between neck and bridge because neck pup takes advantage of center string/wider vibration, so is naturally louder with same resistance. Has Epi confused them? I've seen that happen before, and it results in exactly what you describe, though other problems can be described the same way... BTW, can you check resistance in the pups and make sure the neck pickup has less? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotcanX Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 "Woes"? FYI you can measure the resistance of the pickups through the cord, with all controls at "10". Neck pickup should be approx 8.5KO and the bridge should be around 13.8KO. Use the selector switch to isolate the pickup you're measuring and expect a really low reading in the center position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostindesert Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Pickup height matters very much. Playing guitar for more then thirty years so i should know. Maybe a very hot neck pickup is the problem. It's always advisable to put the neck pickup lower then the bridge, especially when the output is equal on both pickups. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokestack Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Does the Dot studio have the "Hot Bridge" ? The standard Dot normally doesn't . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotcanX Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokestack Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 In that case there is something wrong if the bridge volume seems down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickblues1 Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Starting point for setting pickup height. Neck 3/32nds from the top of the pickup to the bottom of the strings. This is very close to a dime stacked on top of a penny for correct height. Bridge 1/16th from the top of the pickup to the bottom of the strings. This is very close to a quarter for correct height. Lower the Bridge to equal the volume output. Don't confuse the difference between tones. Usually I adjust the Bridge first to get the tone I want. Then the Neck to equal the output. Others do it just the opposite. I do the Bridge first to eliminate the Icepick to the ear tones. I try for what I call the "Harp" tones around the 12th fret. YMMV, that is just what I like to hear from mine. If you already know all this Never mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron G Posted February 14, 2008 Author Share Posted February 14, 2008 Thanks for all the fine advice. At this point, my main suspicion is that both pickups are identical. I'll test the resistance at my jam partner's tonight and report back with the results. If, in fact the pickups are wrong, I wonder how hard it'll be to get Epiphone to have it rectified under warranty. BTW: I've been playing for 37 years and my ears work pretty well, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickblues1 Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 They should both be Classic 57. Yes they are the same. Bridge might be a bit hotter but not much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyelcrrt1281733995 Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Sorry, Nick. They're not the same. Dot Studio is different from Dot. Dot has 2 57 Classics. Dot Studio has 57 Classic Hot in bridge and regular 57 Classic in neck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron G Posted February 14, 2008 Author Share Posted February 14, 2008 I'll settle the argument - the bridge pickup is, er should be, hotter. see http://www.epiphone.com/news.asp?NewsID=68 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyelcrrt1281733995 Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 I'll settle the argument - the bridge pick is' date=' er should be, hotter. see http://www.epiphone.com/news.asp?NewsID=68[/quote'] No argument. I know exactly what I replaced on this one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron G Posted February 15, 2008 Author Share Posted February 15, 2008 I just checked the resistance of the pickups. About 8k and 13k, so it looks like they're the right ones in the right positions. I guess the volume difference is normal. But I'm gonna replace them soon with GFS Mean 90s (I had a Gibson ES330 many years ago and really liked the P90s). Since this Dot was a gift from my son, I'd rather improve it than replace it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickblues1 Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 Sorry for the error, I was thinking Regular Dot. Someone kick me hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyelcrrt1281733995 Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 Sorry for the error' date=' I was thinking Regular Dot. Someone kick me hard.'](*,) Why? If politicians and ball players can mis-speak, mis-remember, be mis-heard, mis-understood. Trust me, I don't expect anything of you I don't expect from our leaders and heroes, so I don't see why you would... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickblues1 Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 Ya but I try not to lie when my mouth is moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volt1281734017 Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 FYI, on both my Epi Les Paul and my Guild S-300 solid body electric the neck pick up is slightly louder than the bridge pickup. My Epiphone 2006 catalog doesn't list the Dot Studio's "Vintage Alnico V plus" pickups' specs. I suspect they are the same PUP's as the Epi standard Les Paul (Alnico Classic Humbuckers), but with open coils. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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