Sinner 13 Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 And if you really have that big of a hard on to "relic" it, Knock the gloss of with 3M Scotch brite. Red(coarsest) green Grey then White(finest) Then shoot it with a amber tinted FLAT Or Satin. P.S. POLYURETHANE SUCKS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 My, we've come a long way...from avoiding like the plague, "beat up POS" guitars, to paying mega bucks, for the factory to do it, now...or taking a lot of time, effort, and with (questionable) results that can vary widely! If you wanted a white guitar, why didn't you just buy one? The best way to relic one, is to' play the thing, forever! Everyone seems to want the "look" but without putting in the effort! (Yeah, I know, I'm editorializing, AGAIN!...LOL!) But, I (personally) like to KNOW where every ding, scratch and burnish, came from. It's part of the "love" (or, sometimes, terror) if you will, of the experiences, that went with my guitar, looking that way! To each his own, for sure! But...I don't get it, and (probably) never will! ;>) CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjones200x Posted May 21, 2008 Author Share Posted May 21, 2008 Cos the most i get to play a day is half hour. maybe 3-4 times a week. would take me 100's of years to get genuine wear. Want one as a display more than any thing. Have a new epi i wanna play always Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 Cos the most i get to play a day is half hour. maybe 3-4 times a week. would take me 100's of years to get genuine wear. Want one as a display more than any thing. Have a new epi i wanna play always I see...a "conversation piece," etc.? Well, that's cool! CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonebender Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 When I first saw the 'aged hardware' on those Fender relics and Gibson vintage-look historics, I thought, 'Someone's been peeing on these guitars!!!'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjones200x Posted May 22, 2008 Author Share Posted May 22, 2008 When painting wood with primer do i need a smooth finish or leave it slightly rough? Do i sand between coats? Do i sand between prima and paint? Do i sand between paint coats? Dont know alot about painting as you can tell lol! Have got a pearl colour i hope to fade a little in the end maybe with the tinted laquer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjones200x Posted May 22, 2008 Author Share Posted May 22, 2008 As my kramer only has a vol knob and humbuckler the wiring is easy, would it be possible and easy to wire a push/pull pot with a quad rail humbuckler and use the volume knob to split the coil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotcanX Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 The whole point of priming is to generate a smooth surface for the colour coats, so, yes, you need to do some sanding of the primer to achieve this. Keep applying primer coats, then sanding, until you have a suitably smooth surface. If you were doing a transparent finish you would use sanding sealer as a primer. Next apply your colour coats. Do not sand between coats. Then you want to lay down a couple of coats of clear. You then sand down or 'level' the clear coats taking care not to sand through to the colour coats. Apply two more clear coats (here is where you will want to use the tinted lacquer). Wet sand and buff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotcanX Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 As my kramer only has a vol knob and humbuckler the wiring is easy' date=' would it be possible and easy to wire a push/pull pot with a quad rail humbuckler and use the volume knob to split the coil?[/quote'] Yes, as long as it has the four-conductor wiring or at least a coil tap wire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjones200x Posted May 22, 2008 Author Share Posted May 22, 2008 Cool so no sanding after painting just onto the laquer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 There's an article (on line) at the "Premier Guitar"(magazine) site...on aging "relicing" you guitar. Might check that out, as well? CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PP_CS336 Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 My' date=' we've come a long way...from avoiding like the plague, "beat up POS" guitars, to paying mega bucks, for the factory to do it, now...or taking a lot of time, effort, and with (questionable) results that can vary widely! If you wanted a white guitar, why didn't you just buy one? The best way to relic one, is to' play the thing, forever! Everyone seems to want the "look" but without putting in the effort! (Yeah, I know, I'm editorializing, AGAIN!...LOL!) But, I (personally) like to KNOW where every ding, scratch and burnish, came from. It's part of the "love" (or, sometimes, terror) if you will, of the experiences, that went with my guitar, looking that way! To each his own, for sure! But...I don't get it, and (probably) never will! ;>) CB [/quote'] I kind of agree with Charlie Brown on this. It's like young kids wanting to have that ripped-up faded look on their jeans and they're willing to pay $60-$80 or more to buy it like that brand new (???) without having worn them out themselves. Go figure that. I guess if you have the money you can piss it away...Only in America, though. I have a 25 year old Martin D-35 Acoustic guitar that has it's fair share of dings and gouges (some made by me but many put in by people who don't know how to handle a guitar, especially because it's not theirs...yes, I learned the hard way). I even had one time where a drunk at a party tripped over my guitar on it's stand and put some major scratches on the finish because it was outdoors and we were playing in a pavillion with a concrete floor. Yeh, I wished it still looked pretty, but it's had a good, hard life of playing, just like it's owner, and shows it's wear and tear with age. With regards to my newer Epiphone guitars (Sheraton II NA 2005 and Les Paul Standard Plain-Top VS 2007), my cat, Gary, seems to like to scratch his nails into my Epiphone Guitar cases (well he does that to my other guitar cases, too). And because I like to admire my two Epiphones (I know some of you lust your beauties, too), I've noticed some incriminating little paw scratches from walking over them when displaying them in my cases. He's been yelled out a couple of times and now gets the message. Bad boy Gary!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjones200x Posted May 23, 2008 Author Share Posted May 23, 2008 Any good website for wiring? Is it possible to use a push/pull as a volume and to split my humbuckler (Quad rail) which is splitable? As i have no tone control and dont desire the need for it either i'll only need a volume and also a split control so a push pull would be good if possible. Might fit a kill switch too, now, i know the easy way of doing it is to put a n/o switch between the positive and ground. Is this the only way? Really wanna learn more so good links to website would be great Thanks so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonovox Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Hey, Mr.Jones: What do you think of your Aria AGP-001N? I have one coming, sound unheard. Doug Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snookelputz Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 I've thought of 2 ways to quickly, yet accurately relic a guitar a. Let your younger brother play it for 3 hours. b. Drag it behind the car, a la Summer Vacation and the dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johntrem Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Although I understand the asthetic appeal of a broken in, well worn, heavily played guitar, I guard my guitars like newborns. If any scratch or accidental ding occurs I'm berieved. Last December I accidentally bumped my 12 year old SG against a metal stool when picking it up resulting in a minor ding in the finish. I was sick for a week. Until then it had been pristine. I saw what had happened to it, immediately put it in it's case and couldn't look at it for a week. This past summer I was sitting in the family room talking to my wife with my sunburst strat in my lap. I picked up a glass of wine I was drinking and the clay coaster the glass was sitting on stuck to the bottom of the wine glass only to drop when it was over the guitar resulting in a small ding below the bridge. After that, I needed more wine. So, although I understand the relicing phenomenon, I have no desire to participate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parabar Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Here's my suggestions for quick and easy relicing: 1) Go down to your local laundromat with a roll of quarters and toss your guitar into one of those jumbo capacity dryers. Put it through as many cycles as it takes to achieve your desired effect. 2) Bounce it down a flight of stairs. 3) Take it to your local biker bar (without a case) and announce in a loud voice that anyone who rides a motorcycle has intimate relations with barnyard animals, then offer to perform a medley of John Tesh and Enya favorites. The gents at the bar will happily relic your guitar for you, at no charge --- and they'll even relic your clothes and teeth to match! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjones200x Posted November 15, 2008 Author Share Posted November 15, 2008 Hey' date=' Mr.Jones:What do you think of your Aria AGP-001N? I have one coming, sound unheard. Doug Jones[/quote'] Yeah was a really nice guitar. Easy to play with good classic strat type sounds. nice action after me setting up and also good finish and feel. Frets were good too. Good for the price. Ive sold it now as i bought it as a project which i never got time for. Was gonna be an evh 5150 project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
layboomo Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Although I understand the asthetic appeal of a broken in' date=' well worn, heavily played guitar, I guard my guitars like newborns. If any scratch or accidental ding occurs I'm berieved. Last December I accidentally bumped my 12 year old SG against a metal stool when picking it up resulting in a minor ding in the finish. I was sick for a week. Until then it had been pristine. I saw what had happened to it, immediately put it in it's case and couldn't look at it for a week. This past summer I was sitting in the family room talking to my wife with my sunburst strat in my lap. I picked up a glass of wine I was drinking and the clay coaster the glass was sitting on stuck to the bottom of the wine glass only to drop when it was over the guitar resulting in a small ding below the bridge. After that, I needed more wine. So, although I understand the relicing phenomenon, I have no desire to participate.[/quote'] While I agree that the only relic wear worth a damn comes from Actually Playing The Guitar....ie.. sweat,beer.blood,tears etc.. etc.. Guitars are meant to be played a ding here and there adds character. Life is way too short to be that anal about anything IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxman Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 I guard my guitars like newborns. If any scratch or accidental ding occurs I'm berieved.. Unfortunately, I suffer from this affliction, too. It is not a good thing to have. I wish I could get over it, but I can't. My guitars must shine like the sun, and look and play exactly as they did when I bought them brand new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 How to Distress your guitar?....Tell it, owes the IRS a LOT of money! CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Unfortunately' date=' I suffer from this affliction, too. It is not a good thing to have. I wish I could get over it, but I can't. My guitars must shine like the sun, and look and play exactly as they did when I bought them brand new.[/quote'] ;) ........ How can one focus on playing the darn things if worried about a acquiring few battle scars.... they give the guitar character Nothing can stay new, so just play it:d/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidg3333 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 How to Distress your guitar?....Tell it' date=' owes the IRS a LOT of money! CB[/quote'] Tell it you won't play it any longer. I can't imagine anything more distressing than that! BTW, distressed guitars don't appeal to me much. Nowadays it is all the fad and an axe that looks like it has been beaten to crap commands top dollar. The replicas that have every minute scratch and burn of Johnny "Hairy Ape" Gizmo's guitar I find to be quite amusing. I must be aging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxman Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 ........ How can one focus on playing the darn things if worried about a acquiring few battle scars.... It ain't easy. When jamming with friends, I play in my own little corner away from others. They think it's rock star attitude. Hey, I restore old Mustangs that I drive. The care and perfection I seek for my guitars definitely stems from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johntrem Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Yes Gentlemen, I fully realize that my "affliction" is beyond normal, probably bordering on OCD. I'm also constantly brushing off dust and polishing off fingerprints. I confess to a secret pleasure on one occasion when I took my 1971 Univox Badaz(always hated that name) in for repair of a faulty neck pickup and the repairman being astounded when he opened the case, "My God, this thing looks new!" I must admit, I love this guy's work- http://www.nashguitars.com/ Still, I don't want to beat up my guitars. The rest of you, knock yourselves out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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