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Gibson wiring diagram - ES 335 / Epi Dot upgrade

#1 User is offline   StewartB 

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 07:02 PM

A quick request to see if anyone out there can post a link or photo of the "standard" Gibson 335 wiring diagram? Reason being that I am about to do a full upgrade of all hardware, electronics, and pickups on my Dot.

I know about most of the websites that display such diagrams, but for some unknown reason (broken link?) I am unable to access the actual Gibson website diagrams. I keep getting a "stopped" indicator on my PC and can't go further.

If anyone has a working link or pdf/photo it would be much appreciated.

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Posted 25 January 2010 - 12:07 AM

Stewart, this should do it:

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Posted 25 January 2010 - 07:07 AM

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Stewart, this should do it:

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Thanks Strumbone, that looks fine. I have a Seymour Duncan schematic which is similar, but I'll use yours. I plan to use all 500k pots, and to use B taper for tone controls instead of A. I might swap the caps for .047 depending on which pups I decide on.

My current thinking is to get 490R & 490T from ebay USA, otherwise I may use a pair of Alnico 4 Tonerider pups that I have in the cupboard. Thanks again for the schematic.
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Posted 25 January 2010 - 03:34 PM

Not that it's any of my business, but I'd go for something lower-output in a semi. Those 490 Gibbys are probably a little much. Those ToneRiders would be my pick. You could also take the opportunity to wire it up with push-pulls for different tone options. In-series and in/out of phase stuff is very cool.

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 01:32 AM

[quote name='bkrejcik]Not that it's any of my business' date=' but I'd go for something lower-output in a semi. Those 490 Gibbys are probably a little much. Those ToneRiders would be my pick. You could also take the opportunity to wire it up with push-pulls for different tone options. In-series and in/out of phase stuff is very cool.[/quote']


Probably a good idea really. I wasn't certain about the 490s and it did occur to me they might be a bit much for a semi. The push/pulls also a good idea. I have done that on my Ibanez SZ320. Thanks for the input.
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Posted 03 March 2010 - 05:09 AM

Hello Guys

I am also considering going into the same project with my Epi Dot. I have a couple doubts if someone can help.

1) About the stock pots: are they 300k or 500k? I see the sheraton uses 300k for volume and 500k for tone. Is the Dot the same? Will you replace all or only the volume pots to 500k? Will there be any effect in the tone by replacing the volume pots? I ask this because I want to get a brighter tone on my epi and someone suggested changing the VOLUME pots to 500k.

2) Any feedback on dimarzios Air Classics DP 190 & 191 for this project?

Thank you!

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 05:22 AM

If you use 500k pots in place of 250k or 300k the tone will be brighter. Here's a link you can check out on the subject:
Effect of changing volume and tone pots
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Posted 03 March 2010 - 05:27 AM

My doubt is I believe the Epi comes with 500k for tone and 300k for volume. Is this so? If so; will replacing the volume pots get me brighter tone?

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 05:43 AM

I put a set of Air Classics in an Agile AL-2000 (LP clone) and I couldn't be happier. I think they would work great in a Dot, as they aren't really hot pups, which I like. I put a set of GFS Vintage 59s in my Dot and I love them.

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 06:21 AM

JCwillow777

Did you have 57 hambuckers in your dot when stock?

is it brighter now, did you change the pots?

pls let me know
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Posted 03 March 2010 - 09:14 AM

My Dot had the stock 57s in it, They WERE NOT Gibson Classic '57s, or I would have left them alone. And yes it is brighter now, not muddy like it was. I changed everything when I did since it is such a big job.

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 09:58 AM

I don't know why, but the diagram Strumbone posted doesn't appear on my screen. (The link to changing volume & tone pots does, however).

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 01:41 PM

[quote name='The_Buffalo]I don't know why' date=' but the diagram Strumbone posted doesn't appear on my screen. (The link to changing volume & tone pots does, however).[/quote']

See if this will take you to strumbones diagram:

Sheraton II wiring
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2002 Epiphone Junior (Ebony)
2003 Epiphone EB0 (Ebony)
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2010 Jay Turser JT-200 Pro (Ebony)
2011 Jay Turser JT-220 (Cherry Sunburst)
Peavey Backstage 50
Peavey XXL & 2x12 (G12K85 and "Relic 30")
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Behringer GMX 1200H (120 Watt Stereo)
w/ Crate 4x12" cab:
(G12H-100 and G12T-75's Wired In Stereo)

Crate GX1200H 120 Watt Head
Custom Built 1x12" Guitar Cab (G12T-75)
Behringer Ultrabass BXR1800H (180 Watt) w/ 15" Scorpion and a Peavey 410TX Cab

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Posted 01 August 2010 - 11:31 PM

hey. i had another post on here, asking about a dot i just bought. it seems that it's humming and feeding back alot. i don't know if it's just picking up interference, or if i need to send it back? if i position myself perfectly in relation to everything around me, it goes away almost completely, but i can't just stand there like that all day. since you guys have dots, can you tell me if you have problems like this?? i checked with mm and grounds are all in order. i'll post the thread if anyone is interested.

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 08:34 AM

Although it's nice to see you found the search button, you're not likely to get anyone different reading this old thread to your own thread. Just stick to 1 thread about it mate.
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