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Posted 25 July 2010 - 08:11 AM

Only Creating this thread so I can place it as a link in the
Epi Lounge "Do-it-Yourself" Sticky, under the "Guitar Pickup Info"
sub-section. The Poster I "borrowed" it from indicates location
as Stuttgart, Germany...

EDIT: The data contained herein was ORIGINALLY compiled by
one of our OWN members - Ricochet!


Gibson/Epiphone Pickups DC Resistance Values

Gibson Burstbucker Pro (sim: BB1,Alnico5, potted) 7.4 KO
Gibson Burstbucker Pro (sim: BB2, Alnico5, potted) 8.0 KO
Gibson Burstbucker 1 (Alnico2) 7.5 KO
Gibson Burstbucker 2 (Alnico2) 8.0 - 8.4 KO
Gibson Burstbucker 3 (Alnico2) 8.2 - 8.8 KO
Gibson '57 Classic (Alnico5) 7.44 - 8.5 KO
Gibson '57 ClassicPlus (Alnico5) 9.0 - 13.8KO(the 9.0 appears to be a screw-up or faulty PU)
Gibson Dirty Fingers (2xCeramic) 16.0 -16.6 KO
Gibson Mini-humbucker (Alnico2) 6.0 - 6.4 KO
Gibson 490R (Alnico2) 7.2 - 7.83 KO
Gibson 490T (Alnico2) 7.9 - 8.53 KO
Gibson 498T (Alnico5) 12.32-13.46 KO
Gibson 496R (Ceramic) 8.3 - 8.63 KO
Gibson 500T (Ceramic) 14 – 15 KO
Gibson Angus Young (Alnico5) 13.5 KO
Gibson Tommy Iommi (Alnico2+Ceramic) 16.5 KO
Gibson Joe Perry(BB2&3?) (Alnico5) 8.4(neck)-8.8 KO(bridge)
Gibson Jimmy Page (Alnico5) 7-8 KO(not found yet, but I reckon within these values)
Gibson P-90R (Alnico5) 7.7 - 8.5 KO
Gibson P-90T (Alnico5) 7.8 - 9.35 KO
Gibson P-100R (Alnico5) 6.1 KO
Gibson P-100T (Alnico5) 9.4 - 16.0 KO
Gibson P-94R (Alnico5) 8.1 KO
Gibson P-94T (Alnico5) 9.1 KO
Gibson HB-R (Alnico5) 7.06 - 9.13 KO
Gibson HB-L (Alnico5) 13.39 - 15.3 KO

Epiphone 650R/700T (Ceramic8) 12.8(neck)-16.6(bridge) KO
Epiphone P90(Casino) (Alnico5) 8.1 KO
Epiphone P90('56 GT, WildKat) (Alnico5) 8.8 KO
Epiphone 57CH(Classic) (Alnico5) 7.8 - 8.13 KO
Epiphone HOTCH(Classic +) (Alnico5) 13.3 – 14 KO
Epiphone HOTH8B (Alnico5) 13.14-13.58 KO
Epiphone HB6N (Alnico5) 8.12-8.30 KO
Epiphone Mini HB (Alnico5) 6.65 KO
Epiphone Special2 (Ceramic) 12.85(neck)-16.6(bridge) KO
Epiphone P100('57 LP Jr) (Alnico5) 10 KO
Epiphone Elitist 50SR/50ST (Alnico5) 8.5 KO
Epiphone Elitist 60ST (Alnico5) 13.8 KO
Epiphone Elitist N.Valensi P90 (Alnico5) 8.1(neck)-9.1 KO(bridge)
Epiphone Elitist Casino/Lennon(Alnico5) 8.1 KO
Epiphone Elitist Country DLX (Alnico5) 5.7 KO

EMG HZ H4 (Ceramic) 13.6 KO
EMG HZ H4A (Alnico5) 13.6 KO

DiMarzio SuperDistortion (Ceramic) 13.65 KO

GFS Vintage 59 (Alnico5) Bridge 8.5-8.8 KO
GFS Vintage 59 (Alnico5) Neck 8.0-8.2 KO
GFS Classic II (Alnico2) Bridge 7.8 KO
GFS Classic II (Alnico2) Neck 7.4 KO

GITS:
2006 Epi LP Classic (Amber Quilt Top), 498T/490R Gibson pups, Gibson Deluxe Tulip Tuners
2010 SX Hawk Strat Copy w/ two P-90s, Mahogany with Maple neck/Fretboard, with Stop-Tail
2010 Ovation CC-24 Flamed Koa Top Acoustic-Electric
2010 Jay Turser JT-200 Pro Les Paul Double Cut-Away (TransAmber), Gibson Deluxe Tulip Tuners
AMPS:
Crate (mid-90s) Vintage Club 50, all tube 50W
Vox VT-15 Modelling Amp, 15W
Marshall MG15CD Amp, 15W

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Posted 25 July 2010 - 08:42 AM

FWIW, The GFS Mean90 I put in the neck of the Joe Pass reads 7.83.

Thanks for putting together the list.
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Posted 25 July 2010 - 10:19 AM

ROTFLOL...if you're gonna copy and paste one of my lists again...at least do like Steven did and copy the entire thing mkay?


Compiled list of measured DC-resistance values that aims to aid in the identification of your Gibson or Epiphone pickup.

The "relative pickup output"-chart from Gibson, basicly tells you nothing regarding tone and output. http://www.gibson.co...ickup_Guide.pdf

The list is limited to pickups currently in use with Gibson or Epiphone(with 1 or 2 exceptions). For vintage pickup identification please consult the resident experts on the appropiate forums.

•Magnets•
Magnet-type is usefull in visually identifying a pickup. All Alnico-types are a metal composite. Ceramics are resembling dark-grey/black bars of plastic/clay.

•KO-values• (measured extremes in Kilo Ohms)
Depending on the coilwind and temperature(colder equals lower KO values) values may fluctuate.
Gibson PUs seem deliberately wound to "approximates", to mimic fluctuating DC-resistance values just like in the old days. The KO-values of the Epi-pups show less fluctuation, since they're wound to exact K specification. However, this is pure speculation from my part.

Any comments, additions welcome!


Gibson Burstbucker Pro..........(sim: BB1, Alnico5, potted).....7.4KO
Gibson Burstbucker Pro..........(sim: BB2, Alnico5, potted)......8.0KO
Gibson Burstbucker 1.............(Alnico2)..........................7.5KO
Gibson BurstBucker 2............(Alnico2)..........................8.0 - 8.4KO
Gibson Burstbucker 3.............(Alnico2).........................8.2 - 8.8KO
Gibson '57 Classic.................(Alnico2)...........................7.44 - 8.5KO
Gibson '57 ClassicPlus.............(Alnico2)..........................13.8KO
Gibson Dirty Fingers..............(2xCeramic)......................16.0 -16.6KO
Gibson Mini-humbucker...........(Alnico2)...........................6.0 - 6.4KO/8.1K(bridge)

Gibson 490R........................(Alnico2)..........................7.2 - 7.83KO
Gibson 490T........................(Alnico2)..........................7.9 - 8.53KO
Gibson 498T........................(Alnico5)..........................12.32-13.46KO
Gibson 496R........................(Ceramic).........................8.3 - 8.63KO
Gibson 500T........................(Ceramic).........................14 - 15KO

Gibson Angus Young...............(Alnico5)..........................13.5KO
Gibson Tommy Iommi.............(Alnico2+Ceramic)...............16.5KO
Gibson Joe Perry(BB2&3?).........(Alnico5)..........................8.4(neck)/8.8KO(bridge)
Gibson Jimmy Page................(Alnico5)..........................7-8KO(not found yet, but I reckon within these values)

Gibson P-90R.......................(Alnico5)...........................7.7 - 8.5KO
Gibson P-90T.......................(Alnico5)...........................7.8 - 9.35KO
Gibson P-100R......................(Alnico5)...........................6.1KO
Gibson P-100T......................(Alnico5)...........................9.4 - 16.0KO
Gibson P-94R.......................(Alnico5)...........................8.1KO
Gibson P-94T.......................(Alnico5)...........................9.1KO

Gibson HB-R.........................(Alnico5)..........................7.06 - 9.13KO
Gibson HB-L.........................(Alnico5)..........................13.39 - 15.3KO

Epiphone 650R/650T...............(Ceramic8)........................7.8(neck)/16.6(bridge)KO
Epiphone P90(Casino)...............(Alnico5)..........................8.1KO alltho some owners report 11-11.8K for neck and 12.0K values for Bridge-PU respectively
Epiphone P90(IJL Casino)..........(Alnico5)..........................8.1KO
Epiphone P90('56 GT)...............(Alnico5).........................8.8KO
Epiphone P90(WildKat).............(Alnico5)......................... 8.8KO alltho some owners report 11.17K(neck)-11.40KO(bridge)
Epiphone 57CH(Classic).............(Alnico5).........................7.8 - 8.13KO
Epiphone HOTCH(Classic +)........(Alnico5).........................13.3 - 14KO
Epiphone HOTH8B...................(Alnico5).........................13.14-13.58KO
Epiphone HB6N.......................(Alnico5)..........................8.12-8.30KO
Epiphone Mini HB.....................(Alnico5)..........................6.65KO
Epiphone Special2....................(Ceramic).........................12.85(neck)/16.6(bridge)KO
Epiphone P100('57 LP Jr)..........(Alnico5)..........................10KO
Epiphone H90(nighthawk)..........(Alnico5)..........................10KO?

Epiphone Elitist 50SR/50ST........(Alnico5)..........................8.5KO
Epiphone Elitist 60ST.................(Alnico5)..........................13.8KO
Epiphone Elitist N.Valensi P90.....(Alnico5)..........................8.1(neck)/9.1KO(bridge)
Epiphone Elitist Casino/Lennon....(Alnico5)..........................8.1KO
Epiphone Elitist Country DLX.......(Alnico5)..........................5.7KO

EMG HZ H4..............................(Ceramic)..........................13.6KO
EMG HZ H4A............................(Alnico5)..........................13.6KO
DiMarzio SuperDistortion............(Ceramic)........................13.65KO

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Posted 25 July 2010 - 10:38 AM

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ROTFLOL...if you're gonna copy and paste one of my lists again...at least do like Steven did and copy the entire thing mkay?
I did not create ze flower, nor did I picketh ze flower. But if i did taketh the pic or maketh ze panting of ze flower, you may copy/pasteth ze pic or panting for non-commercial use of zed flower, but you can never claimeth nor suggest it to be your own work, zank you. You know who you are...



NOWHERE in my original post do I claim authorship of this list. I found it
posted at the MLP forum. Gotta problem, take it
up with THAT "dude" - here's the link for ya:

http://www.mylespaul...son-pickup.html

You should be personally gratified that someone on the MLP forum thought highly enough
of it to post it, rather than worried about someone "Stealing your Thunder". Once ANY
commentary/list hits the 'net, it's in the public domain. If someone were to "borrow" something
I had posted, I could care less.
This forum is about passing on information. As you are the creator of the list, all creds/props
are yours, and I applaud the research involved in amassing the list!

[biggrin] [biggrin] [biggrin]

GITS:
2006 Epi LP Classic (Amber Quilt Top), 498T/490R Gibson pups, Gibson Deluxe Tulip Tuners
2010 SX Hawk Strat Copy w/ two P-90s, Mahogany with Maple neck/Fretboard, with Stop-Tail
2010 Ovation CC-24 Flamed Koa Top Acoustic-Electric
2010 Jay Turser JT-200 Pro Les Paul Double Cut-Away (TransAmber), Gibson Deluxe Tulip Tuners
AMPS:
Crate (mid-90s) Vintage Club 50, all tube 50W
Vox VT-15 Modelling Amp, 15W
Marshall MG15CD Amp, 15W

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Posted 25 July 2010 - 10:58 AM

Nowhere do I say you did claim ownership. My problem is this is only the second time someone copy/pastes a list of mine.
The first time I confronted Mr Lister posting my factorylist he denied ever copying and pasting my list and blatantly suggested it be his own body of work.. This was back when I was way more prolific as a poster, funnily enough people in the know never spoke up in my defence once... And here you are, no doubt claiming you never saw the origin of this list, like you did with the factorylist?
I also made it clear before I'm not seeking credit in any form or way as I feel I'm providing a service to the community. However if I get the impression I'm getting shortchanged for my efforts you're damn right I dare speak up. "Personally gratified" my ass. and you know it.
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Posted 25 July 2010 - 11:25 AM

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Nowhere do I say you did claim ownership. My problem is this is only the second time someone copy/pastes a list of mine.
The first time I confronted Mr Lister posting my factorylist he denied ever copying and pasting my list and blatantly suggested it be his own body of work.. This was back when I was way more prolific as a poster, funnily enough people in the know never spoke up in my defence once... And here you are, no doubt claiming you never saw the origin of this list, like you did with the factorylist?
I also made it clear before I'm not seeking credit in any form or way as I feel I'm providing a service to the community. However if I get the impression I'm getting shortchanged for my efforts you're damn right I dare speak up. "Personally gratified" my ass. and you know it.


Since I joined this forum, my only interest has been in trying to help
others, and learn from others. I've seen info I know I generated
used in other's posts, never cared. Ain't what it's about, man.

Appropriate credit has been noted in OP of this thread, AND in the
posting in the DIY sticky. You seem to have deliberately overlooked that I also linked you
to the source where I found it, wasn't via one of your posts floating around
in the ether.


You were here on this forum when I joined, found your inputs to be
very useful and informative. Actually learned from them... [biggrin] [biggrin] [biggrin]

DO YOU NOT WANT YOUR LIST USED?????????????????????

GITS:
2006 Epi LP Classic (Amber Quilt Top), 498T/490R Gibson pups, Gibson Deluxe Tulip Tuners
2010 SX Hawk Strat Copy w/ two P-90s, Mahogany with Maple neck/Fretboard, with Stop-Tail
2010 Ovation CC-24 Flamed Koa Top Acoustic-Electric
2010 Jay Turser JT-200 Pro Les Paul Double Cut-Away (TransAmber), Gibson Deluxe Tulip Tuners
AMPS:
Crate (mid-90s) Vintage Club 50, all tube 50W
Vox VT-15 Modelling Amp, 15W
Marshall MG15CD Amp, 15W

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Posted 25 July 2010 - 12:54 PM

To make matters clear, my beef is not with you AF.
I just find it dissapointing I've have to ask for credit for something which I donated as a service to the community in the first place, and appear some kind of bigheaded asshole for doing so, simply because noone bothers to give me a modicum of credit in the first place, while I suspect they're perfectly aware of where the info is really coming from, if that makes any sense...

Never mind. It's all good.
Cheers,
Rich

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Posted 25 July 2010 - 11:47 PM

In addition to the list, my HB6N reads 8.60k and the HOTHB8B reads 14.4k.


Just throwing it out there. [biggrin]
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Posted 25 July 2010 - 11:50 PM

Hey I just posted this elsewhere, but maybe someone here can help:

I just got an epi dot the other day. When I first got it, I didn't notice any perceivable hum. However, tonight I was playing it and noticed a bit of hum, it gets slightly louder on the dirty channel but is noticeable on clean. It goes away when I turn the volume off, and is the same on multiple amps, in multiple places in the house. It does not go away when I touch the strings.

Its been a while since I've even owned an electric, honestly. My last one was a Gibson SG Special, which was great, until it started to do the same thing. Pretty soon it was unbearable. I hope that I don't experience the same problem with this guitar, as I've been in love with it (everything but the crooked tuners).

Help!

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 01:51 AM

Thanks for posting this info Animal and, the other cat who threw in some last minute info as well.
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Posted 24 November 2012 - 10:03 AM

View PostJAC, on 24 November 2012 - 01:51 AM, said:

Thanks for posting this info Animal and, the other cat who threw in some last minute info as well.

Next time I pray, I'll tell Greg (Animalfarm). Seriously.
Unfortunately, he is not physically with us on this earth anymore. [-o< :)
He had some great threads.......

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Posted 25 August 2013 - 03:43 AM

I measured DCR of Epiphone pickups in my Epi guitars:

Les Paul Studio:
Alnico Classic Neck (HB6N) - 8.26 kOhm
Alnico Classic Bridge (HotHB8B) - 13.60 kOhm

Explorer Pro TV Silver:
Alnico Classic Pro Neck (ACPNHCN-4) - 7.68 kOhm (3.86 split)
Alnico Classic Pro Bridge (ACPNHCB-4) - 8.34 kOhm (4.34 split)

Nighthawk:
NHR mini-humbucker - 14.15 kOhm (7.04 split)
NSX middle single - 7.56 kOhm
NHT "slant" humbucker - 16.05 kOhm (7.96 split)
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Epiphone Les Paul Studio EB (Entwistle HV58-ZB neck and bridge, Seymour Duncan Triple Shots)
Epiphone Nighthawk Custom Reissue TB (Entwistle HV-M neck, Epiphone NSX middle, Seymour Duncan SH-4 Slant bridge, custom-modified switching)
Epiphone Explorer Pro TV Silver (Entwistle Nemesis neck, Gibson Dirty Fingers bridge)
Kramer Assault 220 FR AW (Giovanni GCH-2 neck, GCH-2 bridge with Alnico 8)
Hamer Standard XT Series BK (Entwistle HV-58+ neck, HV-58+ bridge with Alnico 8)

Digitech RP300
Laney HCM15R

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Posted 01 December 2014 - 08:40 PM

I got here attempting to identify a Gibson pickup. I pulled a 498T and a 490R out of a Les Paul a couple of years back... Sold them so can't measure them now, but I recall the 498T was physically thicker and heavier... Something close to 3/4" thick compared to about 5/8" for the 490R.

Anyway, I just bought a 498T from eBay. It looks legit as far as markings are concerned. And it measures 12.85 Ohms. So, within the range indicated here. However, it is identical in size and nearly identical in weight to the 490R. Anyone know if that is normal?

Thanks much.

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Posted 12 December 2014 - 06:55 AM

View PostHumanJHawkins, on 01 December 2014 - 08:40 PM, said:

I got here attempting to identify a Gibson pickup. I pulled a 498T and a 490R out of a Les Paul a couple of years back... Sold them so can't measure them now, but I recall the 498T was physically thicker and heavier... Something close to 3/4" thick compared to about 5/8" for the 490R.

Anyway, I just bought a 498T from eBay. It looks legit as far as markings are concerned. And it measures 12.85 Ohms. So, within the range indicated here. However, it is identical in size and nearly identical in weight to the 490R. Anyone know if that is normal?

Thanks much.


Yes, that's within the 498T range.
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