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i.d. your Epiphone here -- serial # key, guitardater link + factory codes... a worldwide guide >part 3

#541 User is offline   Steven Lister 

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Posted 14 February 2009 - 06:21 PM

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last update = 27 May 2011

Important notice !

Guitardater doesn't recognize the serial# system Epiphone is using since mid 2008 !

Non prefix serial# doesn't work!

Chinese made guitars with F 31xxxx like the "1959" model or the 1960/2010 tribute models
don't work either, or are falsely rated as FujiGen, Japan made instuments.



To find the i.d. of your 1993 or most later models Epiphone either:

1. Use the "keys" and factory letter/number identifiers below -- note that for guitars made prior to 1993, the serial # assigned does not reveal the date or factory where made -- or you can,
2. use the guitar dater project ---disclaimer: the guitardater project does not keep serial # log files of Epiphone products, it is simply a decoder program that uses the same codes keys as below to decifer the number entered by a user and as such it cannot verify the authenticity of any Epiphone guitar
link to the ---> guitar dater project website
if the link fails, then copy/paste into your address bar ---> http://www.guitardat...g/epiphone.aspx

the four serial # code keys

YYMMFFRRRRR -- new model codes, no letter prefix
Beginning 2008-09 models are appearing w/o a letter prefix to i.d. the factory. Based on what is reported so far, it appears that the serial code may be:
YY = first two digits = year of manufacture
MM = second two digits = month of manufature
FF = third two digits = factory i.d. where made -- the factory code #s identified so far are shown in red print below
RRRRR = remaining digits = ranking number
-- example 08121520333 was made in December 2008, factory 15, 2 unknown significance, 0333 unit produced
[NOTE - pre 1993-94 productions also frequently omitted factory letter codes and appeared as all numbers e.g. 023849354 -- these are Asian made (Korea, Japan, Indonesia) but again the exact factory origin is not usually available from guitardater project or other sources.]

FYYMMRRRR
F = factory code (this can be 2 letters as well)
YY = year of manufacture (this can also be just 1 digit for '90s models)
MM = month of manufacture
R = ranking number (may be more or less digits, not necessarily indicative of total units produced)
Example - S02021234 was made in Feb. 2002 from the Samick Korea factory, unit 1234.

Another code used on some current Epiphone models
FYYMRRRR
F = factory code
YY = year of manufacture
M = This will be a letter code corresponding to the month (A=January, B=February, etc...).
RRRR = ranking number
Example - R03D0263 was made in April 2003 at the Peerless Korea factory, unit 0263.

Epiphone Elite/Elitist models
FYSSSS
F = factory code (this code will be an "F" or "T")
Y = year of manufacture (2 = 2002, 3 = 2003, etc.)
SSSS = sequential ranking number
Example - T41234 is a 2004 Elitist model made at the Terada factory, production rank 1234th unit.

FACTORY LETTER CODES
For Epiphone serial numbers that begin with a letter(s), this list identifies the factory (& country) where produced:
B Bohêmia Musico-Delicia (Czech Republic)
BW ____?____ (China)
DW DaeWon (China)
EA QingDao (China) = Epiphone Acoustic
ED is from their Epiphone Dongbei factory. The Chinese Dongbei means North-east.
EE QingDao (China) = Epiphone Electric
F Fujigen (Japan) = Elite/Elitist models
F/FN Fine Guitars (Korea) = non-Elite/Elitist models
GG (two identified -- Epiphone says it has no record of using GG -- may have slipped through system or are 3rds)
I Saein (Korea)
J Indonesia (Jakarta ?) -- note: one Elitist model made in Japan has been reported having a J letter code
K Korea Ins. (Korea)
L ____?____ (Korea)
MC Muse (China)
MR = Mirr factory, China
N--> see FN
O Choice (Korea)
P/R Peerless (Korea)
S Samick (Korea)
SI Samick (Bogor, Indonesia)
SJ SaeJun (China)
SM Samil (Korea)
SN ____?____ (Indonesia)
T Terada Gakki Seisakusyo (Japan)
U Unsung (Korea)
UC Unsung China (China)
Z Zaozhuang Saehan (China)


FACTORY NUMBER CODES -- for some models starting in 2008, if serial # begins w/numbers
[NOTE: The factories identified by these codes are based on patterns which forum members have observed. The numbers appear as the 5th and sixth digits in the serial number.]
11 = MIC sticker on a '08 Masterbuilt 500
12 = DeaWon or Unsung (China -- uncertainty remains as to which factory)
15 = Qingdao (China) -- electric
16 = Qingdao (China) -- acoustic
17 = China - factory unknown MIC sticker on a J160E
18 = China - factory unknown found on one 2009 model bass
20 = DaeWon or Unsung (China -- uncertainty remains as to which factory)
21 = Unsung, Korea
22 = ??? Korea (factory still unknown)
23 = ??? Indonesia (factory still unknown)[/i]
I = Indonesia (this letter has appeared as the 5th digit on two authentic new models made in Indonesia)


Member paruwi6172 is now keeping this thread current through your input and PMs to him.
This list was compiled by contributors to the Gibson/Epi forums and is updated with new information that can be confirmed from multiple sources.

This is an attempt to get "control" about the first post,

as suggested by Steven Lister and in agreement with Duane
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Posted 14 February 2009 - 06:54 PM

[quote name='Steven Lister]This list was compiled by contributors to the Gibson/Epi forums and was on this forum but disappeared for reasons unknown. Since several recent posts have inquired about factory codes' date=' I have taken the liberty of re-posting it here (with acknowledgement to Note_Norton and others for keeping it up-to-date and alive).[/quote']

Thanx Steven, Norton and everyone who contributed, this is an invaluable resource, the first thing I asked when I joined was where were my Epi's made, and I'm sure that's a pretty common occurence.

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Posted 14 February 2009 - 10:05 PM

And a "J" serial would be from...?

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Posted 14 February 2009 - 10:13 PM

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And a "J" serial would be from...?



That would indicate "Terada Japan", but I severely doubt they made budget bolt-ons.
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Posted 15 February 2009 - 10:38 AM

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And a "J" serial would be from...?

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I've never had any definitive answer to where mine is from either.
You are the first person I've come across around here who also has just a "J" in front of numbers.
Mine is an Epi 1997 SG Jr. the # is J97100457. I know it's hard to make out.
I have always wanted to know for sure where it's country of origin was as well.
Anybody know?
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Posted 15 February 2009 - 10:41 AM

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You are the first person I've come across around here who also has just a "J" in front of numbers.
Mine is an Epi 1997 SG Jr. the # is J97100457. I know it's hard to make out.
I have always wanted to know for sure where it's country of origin was as well.
Anybody know?

Is it possible that the "J" stands for Jakarta?

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Posted 15 February 2009 - 10:46 AM

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Is it possible that the "J" stands for Jakarta?

You know Ron, that's the capital city, and the largest city in Indonesia.
I bet you're right!
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Posted 25 February 2009 - 11:05 PM

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Is it possible that the "J" stands for Jakarta?


Good thinking. But despite the amount of people living there, Jakarta hardly knows a a big industrial section. Most factories are in Surabaya or maybe Jogya...


Steven,
You may want to keep the unconfirmed ones in a seperate section.

Unconfirmed
GG
EZ
G
JK
J Indonesia?
N China
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Posted 02 March 2009 - 10:21 AM

If Gibson/Epiphone has an outline of Guitar ID's, then could that be placed as a sticky? I think people would feel a lot better with the info coming from them and not a 3rd party.

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Posted 02 March 2009 - 10:28 AM

i cant find my #'s might they be in the guitar

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Posted 02 March 2009 - 10:38 AM

[quote name='floydpink7]If Gibson/Epiphone has an outline of Guitar ID's' date=' then could that be placed as a sticky? I think people would feel a lot better with the info coming from them and not a 3rd party.[/quote']

http://www.gibson.co...alNumberSearch/
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Posted 04 March 2009 - 12:36 PM

Just trying to keep it in the game.

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Posted 04 March 2009 - 01:05 PM

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I noticed that that link doesn't have the location of where it was manufactured, it just tells you how to read the ID...

If a simplified version of this thread was stickied, would it be like the introduction topic. It's not made by epiphone like the rule sticky, but its just making it easier for people to access user submitted content that could otherwise be seen on other sites on the internet.

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Posted 05 March 2009 - 08:00 AM

Bump. And I vote for making it a sticky

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Posted 05 March 2009 - 08:35 AM

I thought GG was China?

I think I saw this on a Casino that someone was selling on ebay that was newish and not Unsung/Peerless

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 01:53 AM

Bump. There is a few new guys around that might want to look at this.

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 03:46 AM

Well, Im the proud owner of a Epi Honey Les Paul Standard 2008 model.

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 04:14 AM

What I would rather see is Epi post a section on the home page for this information. It shoudn't be very hard to do. Maybe " Shadow " could look into this for us ?

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Posted 07 March 2009 - 02:22 AM

What is this ranking number?

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Posted 18 March 2009 - 05:00 PM

Lighten up y'all, Duane and sexygibson are doing a fine job I think. Heck before we didn't have anyone we could talk to. If we did something wrong we got booted. I know, think I was one of the 1st to get a weeks vacation on the new forum...lol all I did was post a picture of an old peavey reactor that isn't even made anymore and got booted =D> Hell of a lot better now than back then, ppl can post about any guitar on here and not worry about being banded.
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 05:41 PM

Thanks Captain for the kind words.

Mr. Lister, I understand your frustration and as I stated earlier the info is great. However, there's certain subject matter I have to get approval from Gibson/Epi to make a sticky. And serial number reference and number of units built is considered proprietary information.

At the moment Gibson has an official link in regards to serial number information. And if a customer has a question that particular link will not answer, they should move forward and contact Gibson/Epi Customer Service to receive more individual assistance.

Thanks for understanding, and my apologies for not getting back to you in a more expedient fashion regarding your thread.
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Posted 21 March 2009 - 05:19 AM

Thank you to those who assembled the information in this thread....very helpful. :)

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Posted 27 March 2009 - 12:14 PM

Many thanks for posting this information. :(

With this I found out that my Epiphone BB King Lucille was made in Unsung, Korea in April of 2008.
Which makes it newer than I thought. :)

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Posted 27 March 2009 - 12:28 PM

This is some great info Stephen. Thanks for all the work that must have went into compiling it. I'm sure that Duane is doing what he can to make sure this info is not lost in the archives and hopefully he will have a solution soon.

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Posted 27 March 2009 - 02:47 PM

Hey thanks alot man ive been looking for this for a while now.

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Posted 27 March 2009 - 07:03 PM

I can't figure mine out from that.. the dove, I mean...
no letters.

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 04:47 PM

I'm gonna go to the convenience store and get a decaf and a roll.

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 05:01 PM

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 02:14 AM

no problem!

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Posted 06 April 2009 - 03:07 AM

I cant seem to find any info on my Epi Les Paul Special II...

Serial number is very strange compared to the info provided and the website lookup.

AC05050143

I cant find the AC plant info anywhere! where was this made or is it a fake?

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Posted 06 April 2009 - 06:14 PM

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I cant seem to find any info on my Epi Les Paul Special II...

Serial number is very strange compared to the info provided and the website lookup.

AC05050143

I cant find the AC plant info anywhere! where was this made or is it a fake?

AC was used as a finish code in the model # at one time by Epiphone – to signify an aged cherry finish. No prior report of it as a factory serial code (best guess would be that the C = China).

Is your guitar new? Reports trickle through that Epi is re-vamping its serial # codes on new models.
Epi won’t confirm/deny.. Your best bet is to contact Epiphone directly and ask. Don't just presume you may have a fake (there aren't many). Report back here any official word and I’ll add it to our little database to help the next guy/gal.

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Posted 13 April 2009 - 03:43 PM

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Posted 14 April 2009 - 12:44 AM

My G-310 SG has the serial number SU06030734. That denotes it was built in 2006, but what factory is SU? Seems odd. I know it's a genuine Epiphone, I bought it from an authorised dealer. It doesn't really matter to me where it was built, I was just curious.

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 06:02 PM

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Posted 25 April 2009 - 06:56 PM

Vintage Epiphone information site link ---> vintage/collector site
Information about pre-Gibson era and early post-Gibson Epiphones that may be of interest to collectors and curious minds.

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Posted 26 April 2009 - 08:46 AM

I have ES-175 is one whose serial number is 0106001. Is printed on the inside of the guitar in a light brown label that says EPI IS A DIVISION OF EPIPHONE.
MODEL-ES-175
SERIAL 0,106,001 .-
NASHVILLE-TENESSE-USA.

When you check dater project tells me that is made in Korea in 1990, which is impossible because I have it since 1989.

I have read that the series of seven figures are typical of Japan.
Can anyone help me to clarify the origin of my guitar?

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Posted 29 April 2009 - 12:10 AM

So how are the Daewon guitars in general?I got one coming from ebay auction that was made there in 2004.

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Posted 29 April 2009 - 12:45 AM

Great thread but i"m still none the wiser about my epi les paul special.
It has an S Serial number and according to the guitar dater project it was made in the samick factory in korea but it has Made in Indonesia stamped on the neckplate along with the number, i thought if it was made in indonesia the letters should be SI but mine is just S.
Great little guitar though and sounds great, i just love the simplicity of it and it feels good around the neck.

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Posted 18 May 2009 - 03:29 PM

bump for g6120 (and other newcomers)
WELCOME all to the Epiphone forum.

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Posted 21 May 2009 - 08:49 PM

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This is some great info Stephen. Thanks for all the work that must have went into compiling it. I'm sure that Duane is doing what he can to make sure this info is not lost in the archives and hopefully he will have a solution soon.


Work? It's just a copy/paste from an old post I made. There's an updated list on the Epiwiki
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Posted 22 May 2009 - 12:02 AM

To add to the overall knowledge of Epiphone's SN schema, Lord Summerisle has started building up some info regarding how to decode the new format that doesn't have the leading letter (this started in 2008, it seems). Here's what it is starting to shape up to, based on the assumption that the 5th and 6th digits in the SN correspond to the country of origin:

15 = Qingdao (electric)
16 = Qingdao (acoustic)
20 or 12 = DeaWon? or Unsung China? (still not sure which number corresponds to which factory)
21= Unsung, Korea

My MIK Riviera is SN 080522XXXX, which would suggest that 22 is also a Korean plant.

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 08:18 PM

[quote name='HarpBoy]My MIK Riviera is SN 080522XXXX' date=' which would suggest that 22 is also a Korean plant.[/quote']

[quote=paruwi6172]I wanna add the 23 for Indonesia made guitars
I've seen some Epis at the local dealer, all models made in Indonesia had xxxx23.......[/quote]

Let's put out the call for seconds to your motions ---
-- ANYONE ELSE out there who can confirm 22 as Korea and 23 as Indonesia? PM me or post to confirm.

Thanks for your input fellas..., that's how our member database is kept at the cutting edge of info. lol

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 10:48 PM

Thank you, just managed to find out my guitars info using the link
Can anyone tell me if some of the factories are more collectable/made better guitars?
It comes in handy when explaining to the girlfriend just why I needed another guitar, if I can point out to her that it's a great investment :-)


The Thunderbird is

"Guitar Info
Your guitar was made at the
Samick Plant, Korea
June 1997
Production Number: 0049


And the Firebird is


Guitar Info
Your guitar was made at the
Unsung Plant, Korea
August 2001
Production Number: 1257"

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I recently bought a Joe Pass in Tokyo, the sticker inside says:
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Number: 0806210467"

From what I've read in this thread, would this make my guitar a recent Korean model, perhaps from Unsung?

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Posted 04 June 2009 - 02:03 PM

Hey- I've been lurking, trying to dig up some info on a '97 Epi Strat that came as a kit. It has almost NEVER been used..the poor thing. It's got a MADE IN KOREA sticker on it, and it also has a serial number that starts with J.
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Posted 05 June 2009 - 01:14 PM

TO everyone: Epiphone is in the process of changing serial # format. If any of you has information to confirm the new number 22 and 23 locations and/or to add to or correct our data list in any way, then please contribute by posting or by a PM to me. This topic information belongs to everybody -- working together we can keep it the most accurate source available.

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Posted 06 June 2009 - 01:53 AM

:D First, thanks for the serial number info. I guess my Chinese Dot Deluxe is actually made in Korea. Somehow I feel that's a good thing. Second, you guys drink too much coffee or what? I mean, nobody knows everything there is to know about everything. That's why come here to share what we DO know. Don't make me seperate you guys! LOL!

Here's what I know: This is my first new Epi. For 400 bucks, it's unreal. So pretty, I'm afraid to play it. I'm getting over that though. And I know where my old Epi Regent bass is that I paid 35 dollars for back in 1978. I WILL get it back!

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Posted 06 June 2009 - 02:32 PM

[quote name='Jimbotime]First' date=' thanks for the serial number info. I guess my Chinese Dot Deluxe is actually made in Korea.[/quote']
Curious to know the details leading to your conclusion. Is it a 2008--> model? What made you say "Chinese"? Were there stickers on it indicating made in China? What serial code points to Korea?

If there is an error in the data sheet, then I want to see it corrected. Appreciate your contribution.
BTW I compiled/posted this data here from multiple sources to put it all in one place b/c I think it's important for everyone to have access to the info. But I'm a musician not a bookkeeper (nor a scoundrel) so if Ricochet or anyone else wants to take over I'll happily exit the scene.

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Posted 16 September 2009 - 04:20 PM

[quote name='paruwi6172]hope' date=' steven has done some savings on this[/quote']

What the....?
I go on the road for a few weeks , take a quick check in from a remote computer, and find the place a wreck!!!

Anybody else wish that Gibson/Epi would just bite the bullet already and switch to a php (or pcp or whatever it is) bulletin board server? Since we keep losing valuable info every couple of months anyway then the argument that we would lose too much info in the switch is really a moot one, right?

Anyway --- paruwi6172, I do have a backup copy of the factory codes thread but it is on disc back home so is out of my reach for awhile. It seems the most relevent update was your input on the four number codes, so if you PM me those I will update on-the-fly.

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Posted 16 September 2009 - 10:24 PM

22 = MIK Riviera Valensi (mine)

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What the....?
I go on the road for a few weeks , take a quick check in from a remote computer, and find the place a wreck!!!

Anybody else wish that Gibson/Epi would just bite the bullet already and switch to a php...?



Thats the ticket! PHP is the way to go.


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Posted 28 September 2009 - 08:10 PM

Staying out of the fray, the information here is first rate. I really want a Korean made Sheraton ii. This helps.

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My 2009 (i believe) Chinese Casino has serial 09021507053. I hope that helps!

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First bump of November goes to Harpboy!!!
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SI = Samick Indonesia in Bogor Indonesia
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I played an Epiphone Masterbuilt 500 today with a MIC sticker and a factory code of 11. Made in '08.

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Posted 23 November 2009 - 08:57 AM

Hi, guys. I've been seeing many Epiphone LPs with serial numbers begining with F. I have here a few: F6080240, F97040827 which i found on the ebay. According to Guitardateproject they are made in Korea( Fine plant). Have you met any of those and what you think about it? Appreciate any answers, thanks

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Posted 23 November 2009 - 09:21 AM

S00054082
Which is like S. Korea, May 2000

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Posted 23 November 2009 - 07:17 PM

[quote name='lifelessdead]Hi' date=' guys. I've been seeing many Epiphone LPs with serial numbers begining with F. I have here a few: F6080240, F97040827 which i found on the ebay. According to Guitardateproject they are made in Korea( Fine plant). Have you met any of those and what you think about it? Appreciate any answers, thanks[/quote']


My LP has the "F" serial code, in fact, it's very similar to the first one you listed. Mine was built in December of 96 (as opposed to August of 96), and I can tell you it is a great guitar. Plays, feels, and sounds great.

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Posted 24 November 2009 - 07:17 AM

[quote name='T Bone]My LP has the "F" serial code' date=' in fact, it's very similar to the first one you listed. Mine was built in December of 96 (as opposed to August of 96), and I can tell you it is a great guitar. Plays, feels, and sounds great. [/quote']

Hey, thanks dude. I won the auction yesterday at ebay on one of these. The serial number begins with F505... so it is made in '95. I hope it is a great guitar as you said:) I've been considering another one made in Czech R. (1997) at same price wich i wanted to buy at first but i gave up because it was easier to me to pay (because i live in a country that don't support a Paypal service-Serbia:-k ) and shipping costs where lower for the first one. I don't think there is much diference between these two though there is opinion that the Czech ones are of a bit better quality...

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Posted 30 November 2009 - 10:05 AM

Thanks to the OP and others who contributed to this thread. I just received a beauty of an SG in trade for a Vintage Yamaha. I went to check the serial number and was dismayed to find it did not register nor was mine like any other SG I was seeing.

The one I have I was told was a 2009 Epiphone SG G400 Custom Shop Limited Edition in Silverburst. The serial number is 09041508738 and there was a "Inspection by QC" sticker and a "Made in China" sticker on the back of the headstock as well. When I got it all the plastic was still on the pickguard, backplate and even the pickup covers. It literally is in "New" condition. From the serial number explanation above I can figure out it was built in 2009 at the Quingdau facility in China?

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Posted 01 December 2009 - 01:33 AM

Hi, can anyone tell me the origin of this epi. The serial number is 30911479 or 30811479 without a letter. The owner says its the older model from '91 or '93. ,he also says its made in Japan or USA which i am very suspicios of. Here are some pics:


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Posted 01 December 2009 - 07:21 AM

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Hi, can anyone tell me the origin of this epi. The serial number is 30911479 or 30811479 without a letter. The owner says its the older model from '91 or '93. ,he also says its made in Japan or USA which i am very suspicios of. Here are some pics:


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You must be mistaking the B for a 3. I can't see in your picture. It looks very legit, and I would put it in the '90s probably Korean made. The serial makes no sense though. You should try to get a better pic or figure it out for yourself.

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Posted 08 December 2009 - 06:31 PM

Ok guys I need your help. I'm in the process of getting my Casino. Here's where y'all com in. The serial # is GG 05080884. Now, we look at the serial # and we can see that GG isn't an Epiphone serial. Now I need to hear from the others that have one of these GG's. Because mine is a lefty with a Bigsby. The GG may be the lefty serial #? I gotta know so PLEASE help if you can. This guitar plays UNBELIEVABLY well and has tone and sustain for days. Better than the model 100 that got me hooked on these beauties in the first place. And that one plays like a dream compared to my Ibanez's.
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Posted 09 December 2009 - 05:15 AM

Riddle me this batman:
Where the hell was my new 59 LP reissue made? It has a stamped serial number that starts F300...
1.)2009 Epi 1959 LP Reissue,
2.)Fender Telecaster road worn/Texas specials/Bigsby F5,
3.)2005 Epi LP Custom-490R/490T,
4.)2004 Epi LP Custom-SD Phat Cats,
5.)Gibson LP custom 57 Goldtop,
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9.)Epi LP 12 string-PAF FRED F spaced,Joe Satrini F spaced,
10.)EPI G400 SG Custom Shop EMG 81/85,
11.)1998 Epi G-1275 Double Neck- Burstbucker Pro's-Bigsby-6/490R-490T-12,
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14.)Epi Custom Shop WildKat,
15.)Epi AlleyKat,
16.)Gretsch 6129-TV Jones Classic 's,
17.)Fender Custom Shop 60th anniversary Texas Special,2005
18.) Epi G400 Custom Shop-blue,
19.)2007 pirates of the Caribbean G-400 Custom Shop,
20.)Fender American Players Strat-Lace Sensor Chrome Dome's,
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22.)Fender Precision Bass,
23.)Steinberger Synapse,
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25.)Ibanez Ax81-DiMarzio Super Distortions/Coil Tapped-Bigsby,
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Posted 09 December 2009 - 07:02 AM

What exactly does the production # stand for ? Is it the amount of units produced that month, or the order in which your guitar came off the line ?

F01100017 - Korea / Fine Plant / Oct / 01 - the number 0017 baffles me tho.

Thanks !

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Posted 18 December 2009 - 06:16 AM

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I guess this isn't the serial#

pics would help

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Posted 18 December 2009 - 07:10 AM

I cant find a cable to take it off my phone.T
his is what it says tho on my Epiphone Tag:
Quality Controlled By
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Date
25/08/08

Model/SKU
E66YCHCH1
(or E669CHCH1)

Serial #
0805231055
Currently shredding;
2008 Epiphone SG G400 (Indonesian) - Rosie.
2000 Epiphone Dot with Dimazio pickups(Samick) "Fat bottomed gal".
2011 Epiphone 50th Anniversary P90 SG (China).
1998 Epiphone Les Paul Black Beauty (Saein) - Beyonce (The girlfriend named it I swear).
2003 Squier by Fender Telecaster custom relic done by me :D.
2005 Epiphone '57 Reissue Les Paul Junior (China)
2011 Gibson Les Paul Junior
Cases:
Hiscox hard case - 335 Dot.
Hiscox hard case - Cherry SG.
Epiphone Hard case and soft case - TV Yel' SG.

Gator Deluxe Les Paul Hard Case


Amps -
White Marshall 5005.

Black Marshall 5005.

Pedals - Boss MD-2 Mega Distortion.


Shredded but not forgotting;

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Posted 18 December 2009 - 07:29 AM

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Your guitar was made
Year 08
Month 05
in Indonesia (23)
production # 1055

Peter




how did you do that, and Indonsia, is that good?
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2008 Epiphone SG G400 (Indonesian) - Rosie.
2000 Epiphone Dot with Dimazio pickups(Samick) "Fat bottomed gal".
2011 Epiphone 50th Anniversary P90 SG (China).
1998 Epiphone Les Paul Black Beauty (Saein) - Beyonce (The girlfriend named it I swear).
2003 Squier by Fender Telecaster custom relic done by me :D.
2005 Epiphone '57 Reissue Les Paul Junior (China)
2011 Gibson Les Paul Junior
Cases:
Hiscox hard case - 335 Dot.
Hiscox hard case - Cherry SG.
Epiphone Hard case and soft case - TV Yel' SG.

Gator Deluxe Les Paul Hard Case


Amps -
White Marshall 5005.

Black Marshall 5005.

Pedals - Boss MD-2 Mega Distortion.


Shredded but not forgotting;

1997 Epiphone Les Paul Junior (Indonesian) - Maria

SketchyEtchy - aka Kai

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Posted 18 December 2009 - 07:42 AM

I love it! So thats the main thing [biggrin]
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2008 Epiphone SG G400 (Indonesian) - Rosie.
2000 Epiphone Dot with Dimazio pickups(Samick) "Fat bottomed gal".
2011 Epiphone 50th Anniversary P90 SG (China).
1998 Epiphone Les Paul Black Beauty (Saein) - Beyonce (The girlfriend named it I swear).
2003 Squier by Fender Telecaster custom relic done by me :D.
2005 Epiphone '57 Reissue Les Paul Junior (China)
2011 Gibson Les Paul Junior
Cases:
Hiscox hard case - 335 Dot.
Hiscox hard case - Cherry SG.
Epiphone Hard case and soft case - TV Yel' SG.

Gator Deluxe Les Paul Hard Case


Amps -
White Marshall 5005.

Black Marshall 5005.

Pedals - Boss MD-2 Mega Distortion.


Shredded but not forgotting;

1997 Epiphone Les Paul Junior (Indonesian) - Maria

SketchyEtchy - aka Kai

AnimalFarm (Greg) R.I.P. Buddy!

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Posted 02 January 2010 - 07:10 AM

hey epis with factory code 20 have a "Inspected By Gabor" sticker that means it is Dae Won so 20 is Dae Won

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Posted 05 January 2010 - 01:31 AM

I just picked up a new Masterbilt DR-500M at a local GC for $300. Guess they are not stocking them locally anymore hence the insane price.

Serial # is 0811170930.

So it seems:

Made: November 2008
Place: China
Prod. #: 0930

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Posted 16 January 2010 - 12:01 PM

thanks so much, i paniced when i got my epi '56 goldtop LP, as i saw the serial # and thought SHIT NO LETTERS ! FAKE !



but then i found this. relief at last.

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Posted 17 January 2010 - 02:18 PM

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Riddle me this batman:
Where the hell was my new 59 LP reissue made? It has a stamped serial number that starts F300...


Qingdao China. All the '59 RIs have serials that start with F for some reason.

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Posted 17 January 2010 - 02:19 PM

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What exactly does the production # stand for ? Is it the amount of units produced that month, or the order in which your guitar came off the line ?

F01100017 - Korea / Fine Plant / Oct / 01 - the number 0017 baffles me tho.

Thanks !


The production number is what number guitar yours was of all the guitars produced that month.

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Posted 18 January 2010 - 06:55 AM

Hi

Can you let me know where you got your "keys" and factory letter/number identifiers from please. I'm in dispute with someone I bought an Epiphone Dot from and they refuse to take your post as a reliable source. I feel that they say this as your post suggests that what they sold me as a Korean model is in in fact a Chinese one, as denoted by the 5th and 6th digits of the serial number being 15 (full serial number is 08121501484)

Thanks.

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Posted 18 January 2010 - 12:20 PM

No, hes asking how we know that EE corresponds to Qingdao. Anyway, the guitar you bought should have a sticker that says either "Crafted in China" or "Made in Korea".

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 04:00 AM

hey can somebody tell me pleas when my epiphone was made?
it's a les paul custom made in indonesia
0808231672
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Posted 23 January 2010 - 05:45 AM

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Hi

Can you let me know where you got your "keys" and factory letter/number identifiers from please. I'm in dispute with someone I bought an Epiphone Dot from and they refuse to take your post as a reliable source. I feel that they say this as your post suggests that what they sold me as a Korean model is in in fact a Chinese one, as denoted by the 5th and 6th digits of the serial number being 15 (full serial number is 08121501484)

Thanks.


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Peter, I forgot about that flaw.
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Posted 23 January 2010 - 06:50 AM

Bump.


What's up with my deleted messages? I do not recall deleting them.

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 08:56 AM

I posted this in another post, but I'll put it here as well as perhaps someone can glean a bit of info from it in the future as more guitars get reported. jerrymac and RobinTheHood have helped me identify a 1980's Epiphone that I had stored in the back of my closet and had completely forgotten about. From what jerrymac and RobinTheHood have been able to tell me it appears to be an S series (possibly a special order S-400 with a Kayler Flyer bridge) from somewhere between 1986 - 1989. As noted the serial number may not conform to the current data as it would have it as a 1985 but it appears the S series did not start production until 1986 and it appears not to follow the Samick 8 digit serial number as noted in the Premier guitar article about an S series.

For anyone interested the serial number is: 5086940 (picture of the headstock below) - it has a Kramer style headstock and the Kahler Flyer bridge with a H-S-S pickup configuration.

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Maybe someone out there has a similar guitar and can glean something from this info.

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Ok guys I need your help. I'm in the process of getting my Casino. Here's where y'all com in. The serial # is GG 05080884. Now, we look at the serial # and we can see that GG isn't an Epiphone serial. Now I need to hear from the others that have one of these GG's. ....



I justed picked up a Dot myself that starts with a "GG"..it's an 05 model. Don't know which factory, but they sure did a nice job on it! Oh, hi all, btw

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 11:39 PM

Hello!

My name is Stefano, from Italy, i found precious information in this topic., but i need your help

I'm after a beautiful Epiphone Sheraton with a rare wine red finish,
the seller told me the guitar was made in Japan in 1984, its serial is

4053802

But using guitar date project i found the guitar was made in Korea(not in Japan) in 1994 (not in 1984)

So, anyone can help me identifying this guitar? According to you, which is the right value for the guitar (the hardshell is included)?

Thanks for all the answer and sorry for my bad english

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Hello!

My name is Stefano, from Italy, i found precious information in this topic., but i need your help

I'm after a beautiful Epiphone Sheraton with a rare wine red finish,
the seller told me the guitar was made in Japan in 1984, its serial is

4053802

But using guitar date project i found the guitar was made in Korea(not in Japan) in 1994 (not in 1984)

So, anyone can help me identifying this guitar? According to you, which is the right value for the guitar (the hardshell is included)?

Thanks for all the answer and sorry for my bad english

Stefano


The Guitar Dater is limited in what it can do, and it is not programmed to recognize Japanese guitars. If often mistakes them for later Korean models.

You don't include any photos, but the serial # is correct for a 1984 Sheraton made in Japan by Matsumoku. In fact, it was made in May 1984 to be exact. You have a great guitar.

The label inside the f hole should look like this:

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Yours will say Sheraton WR (Wine Red) instead of Sheraton AS (Antique Sunburst)

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Posted 18 February 2010 - 02:11 AM

Any help with this serial number? 16050690?

guitar dater says it's from May 2016... hehe future guitar! nice!

Thanks in advance,

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Posted 21 February 2010 - 07:09 PM

Hi folks.
I'm from italy, and this is my first post here.
I've find an EPI es 175, but i need some help with the serial number.
On the headstock the logo is EPI not EPIPHONE, and is not a reissue.
The sticker in said Nashville Tennessee, the serial is 0101108.
Antone can help me?
Tnx to all, and excuse for bad english.

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 12:35 PM

Just bought (arrived on 2010-02-10) my first Epiphone (note the "first") [biggrin]

It's an Epiphone Dot Studio, Wine Red Burst.

A sticker in the back of the headstock read "HAND-CRAFTED IN CHINA" and the label inside says

Model : Dot Studio WS (don't know about the WS part?)
Serial : 09101501800

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Posted 25 February 2010 - 01:59 AM

Thanks a lot, Peter! [cool]

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Posted 25 February 2010 - 08:47 AM

My 2010 tribute has a "hand crafted in China" sticker on the back of the headstock but the ser # Starts with F 302190. Don't care where it's made, it's freakin nice!!:-" ........................markerdown


















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Posted 26 February 2010 - 05:19 AM

Hi guy can anyone tell me is this a real Epi made in Japan. To me it looks more like a Gibson fake but i am not an expert, cheers!

http://cgi.ebay.co.u...E:B:BOC:GB:1123

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Posted 28 February 2010 - 08:27 PM

Hello, i've just bought my first Epiphone and i'm trying to find out the date and factory where it was made. Having read this thread I have discovered there is a grey cloud above serial numbers that prefix with "GG".

My model is a Dove and the serial is GG05100832

So i'm guessing that October 2005 is the date, but where is this illusive GG factory???

Is it safe to assume it's a genuine Epiphone??

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Posted 28 February 2010 - 08:58 PM

In the last couple of years there have been several reports of Epiphone acoustics with serial GG. 2005 sounds plausible to me. The factory as of yet is unknown.
The only way to assure you're getting a genuine Epiphone, is to buy it at a genuine Epiphone dealer.
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Posted 28 February 2010 - 10:31 PM

thanks for getting back to me.
I won this auction on my iphone so it was hard to see the details properly. It was all a bit last minute so i have decided to do a bit of research after the win (not ideal i know!).

http://cgi.ebay.co.u...=item2c53422f81

You'll have to excuse my lack of knowledge on this matter but is it me or is the scratch plate on this the type that's used on the black version of this guitar? All the one's i've seen from this date period have a very different coloured plate and the yellow branches aren't quite so prominent. Perhaps it's just the photo or the flash that makes it look different, but thought i'd better get your advice before i actually pay for the thing!

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Posted 28 February 2010 - 11:00 PM

Looks real enough to me, but I'm no expert on acoustics. Maybe another member can chime in here.
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Posted 28 February 2010 - 11:13 PM

I got my Epi Casino off Craigslist a week ago. It is a 1996 Peerless Korea made guitar with an original factory installed Epiphone Bigsby.

Serial number is R96M 0534

Is that May of 1996 then?
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Posted 01 March 2010 - 08:34 PM

T.P,

I have the same problem as you with identifying the month in which my 99 Peerless was made. I have asked the question on here before.

Mine is R99P 0308.

Surely the last month letter should be L?

I first thought i had a fake but i've seen a few on ebay with a 'P' as the month.

Can any one explain this to myself and T.P

Thanks.

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 10:02 PM

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Hello, i've just bought my first Epiphone and i'm trying to find out the date and factory where it was made. Having read this thread I have discovered there is a grey cloud above serial numbers that prefix with "GG".

My model is a Dove and the serial is GG05100832

So i'm guessing that October 2005 is the date, but where is this illusive GG factory???

Is it safe to assume it's a genuine Epiphone??




Not sure if this has any relevance to the topic but i've received the guitar and found a sticker on the back that states "Inspected by 16 Gabor China"

could Gabor = GG ??

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Posted 05 March 2010 - 08:03 AM

hi

i just bought a new epiphone dot vintage sunburst 2 days ago in a french music store
my serial is 0811230878, so this guitar was made in indonesia in November 2008

i try several dot and sheraton II in the store, almost 5, 3 dot and 2 sheraton, the dot i choose was perfect, and it was the only one who has been made in indonesia, the others was made in china and don't sound very well or were not finished as good as my dot

so my question is : do you have information on the factory 23 ?

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Posted 05 March 2010 - 08:09 AM

i add some information

the seller told me he thought that my epi was made in the "samick greg bennet" factory in indonesia according to a gibson representative in europe but he was not sure

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Posted 05 March 2010 - 08:46 AM

thanks Peter for your quick answer

i think epi makes very good guitars from 200$ to 3000$ whatever there are made

i bought my first epi in 1996, korean made i think, it was a les paul custom, sold in 2000

since 2000 till now, i switched to fender japan and only japan, strats , tele and jazzmaster, very good stuff but the wire, sometimes wasn't very good and these guitars were not cheap

four months ago, i decided to try several hollow body in France (hamer echotone, several ibanez archtop from as73 to as103, hagström, and some duesenberg), my conclusion is the best price quality guitars still epi for an hollow body especially the dot


My only concern about epi, it's not my feeling but the feeling of several french music store is that gibson and epi guitars become more and more hard to find in Europe

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Posted 07 March 2010 - 08:44 PM

Just quickly harking back to the "GG" issue, although the lack of info regarding this production line could be taken as worrying when considering the guitar's integrity, I can confirm that my version (which is a Dove) is definitely a genuine Epiphone and has been built particularly well!
So, for those that are here researching the GG serial number, as I did when i came across this forum, don't necessarily be deterred the guitar just because it doesn't show up on the guitar dater project system. [biggrin]

Thanks

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 02:37 AM

The "GG" serial # issue is interesting. I've got a "junior" with 3/4 size body, full size scale with serial # beginning with "G". Emailed epiphone and all they could tell me was that it was made in '98, it's an E-5 model, but no production plant info...........
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Posted 08 March 2010 - 10:34 AM

Hey All,

Great guide [crying]


Epiphone Dot in Natural

Serial: 09111500363

09=2009
11=November
15=factorycode for QuingDao, China
00363 production#


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Posted 14 March 2010 - 08:22 AM

I have an Epi Zephyr Regent. Serial number begins with R98M , followed by the sequence number. The decoder says Peerless, December 1998. But 'M' is the 13th letter of the alphabet, not the 12th. I would think December would be an 'L', not an 'M'.

Anyone have an explanation for this ?

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Posted 14 March 2010 - 07:21 PM

bump...
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Posted 15 March 2010 - 04:56 AM

I own a black explorer, the headstock says "Epiphone by Gibson", I bought the guitar second hand back in the very early 90`s sometime, so my guess is thats its built at least a few years ahead of that. Its fitted with black hardware, and a locking tremolo, the humbuckers are split half white and half black, the serial # on a sticker on the headstock reads 880400161, I just played it end never thought of it really, but owning it for nearly 20 years now, it would be fun to know if this is a genuine thing or just some fake thing, as I have never really seen one like it, tnx in advance for any help!

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Posted 23 March 2010 - 05:55 AM

Thanks for this thread. I had recently bought another Korean-made G-400 but there were no letters indicated in the serial # so I wasn't able to ID the factory until I read the first post in the thread. :)

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Posted 26 March 2010 - 09:59 PM

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Posted 28 March 2010 - 11:04 PM

Epiphone Les Paul Custom EB/GH

S/N 09071509120

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Posted 29 March 2010 - 01:35 AM

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Epiphone Les Paul Custom EB/GH

S/N 09071509120

Qingdao (China), July 2009, production number 9120
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Posted 31 March 2010 - 10:22 AM

OK I posted this on a new thread but here is my question---

I got a "new" slightly used Epiphone Les Paul Jr. I can't read all the serial numbers but here is what I can read"

0910100xxx

Does this mean built Oct 2009?

And then the next 2 numbers are 10 and are supposed to be the location right?

Well the guitar is from China. So where does the 10 stand for?

Thanks to whoever figures this out.
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Posted 03 April 2010 - 12:35 AM

Hello guys,
I 'm a new guitar player and I have just bought my Epiphone SG G-400 for 340 Euro and I 'm wondering if it is real or not.
Maybe you can help me with the serial number: 0908201178 it is made in China and it has a sticker with the "Inspected By Gabor/ China" thing.
Thank you!!!

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Posted 03 April 2010 - 02:41 AM

[quote name='espen72]I own a black explorer' date=' the headstock says "Epiphone by Gibson", I bought the guitar second hand back in the very early 90`s sometime, so my guess is thats its built at least a few years ahead of that. Its fitted with black hardware, and a locking tremolo, the humbuckers are split half white and half black, the serial # on a sticker on the headstock reads 880400161, I just played it end never thought of it really, but owning it for nearly 20 years now, it would be fun to know if this is a genuine thing or just some fake thing, as I have never really seen one like it, tnx in advance for any help![/quote']
I just happened to be searching the internet today for info on one of my old guitars and saw your post.
I bought an Epiphone by Gibson Explorer new around 1986/87 and it was a sparkly black finish, metallic black.
Two humbuckers, though I can't recall if they were split black/white (rings a bell though), and I can't recall if there was a tremolo - though I think there was. Two (?) black knobs - tone and volume.
The headstock logo was mother of pearl style on a black headstock. No case or gigbag, just the guitar when new.

It was a good guitar as I recall, solidly made, but at the time I was hankering after a Les Paul and soon moved on to a Les Paul copy - kind of wish I still the Explorer now as it was my first new guitar.

So yes, they did exist and I'm pretty sure they're genuine. I think I've seen them in red too.

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Posted 03 April 2010 - 05:49 AM

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That SG is GORGEOUS!!

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Posted 03 April 2010 - 03:53 PM

Hey what does it mean when theres no serial number imprinted on the back of the headstock, but instead on the sticker inside the f-hole?
This is a supernova model im looking at. thanks.

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Posted 03 April 2010 - 05:44 PM

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That SG is GORGEOUS!!

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Posted 04 April 2010 - 10:55 PM

Good idea, Steven, and thanks for the info.

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So I presume its made in the Peerless factory in Korea in 1997?


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Posted 07 April 2010 - 07:00 AM

I have an Epi Les Paul, Art Deco finish I'm trying to find out about..

Factory code is MR.. any ideas?

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Posted 10 April 2010 - 04:02 AM

got my 1960 tribute yesterday. Man it plays great. Hand crafted in China. S/N # F300020. I
can't find this number on any site.
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Posted 10 April 2010 - 04:21 AM

be nice if it did, but it plays alot better than my +top.

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Posted 14 April 2010 - 11:00 AM

Hi everyone, Epi collector but noob user here, registered just so I could post in this thread. Has anyone ever figured out what factory the MR code corresponds to? I recently picked up a gorgeous CSB LP Standard Plus, serial number MR0109nnnn. I emailed Epi support to get details and sent pictures per the rep's request. The guitar has what looks to be an original "MADE IN KOREA" sticker on the back of the headstock, but the rep said the guitar was consistent with a Chinese model. Did he misspeak or is something fishy going on?

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Posted 15 April 2010 - 03:47 AM

Two-fold post -
1. a "Bump"
2. I included this in the "Do it Yourself" thread in the Lounge,
so - should this post ever become pushed back, the link will
ALWAYS be found in the DIY thread....
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Posted 15 April 2010 - 07:06 PM

Hi

I have a G400 that has had its serial number disputed thanks to it not being recognised by the "serial decoder".

The serial is 0811230041, I realise that the decoder is not a foolproof system and this may be a genuine number.

I've opened the guitar up, its a solid wood body, the pickups are Epiphone (with stickers saying, for example, G400 neck and ROHS compliant), the electrics are all Alpha pots, the tuners are Grover, the pots routing even seems to be painted with graphite paint. Would a counterfeit/fake go to that level of detail? :)

I'd appreciate any help you can give.

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Posted 16 April 2010 - 12:19 PM

[quote name='scars]Hi everyone' date=' Epi collector but noob user here, registered just so I could post in this thread. Has anyone ever figured out what factory the MR code corresponds to? I recently picked up a gorgeous CSB LP Standard Plus, serial number MR0109nnnn. I emailed Epi support to get details and sent pictures per the rep's request. The guitar has what looks to be an original "MADE IN KOREA" sticker on the back of the headstock, but the rep said the guitar was consistent with a Chinese model. Did he misspeak or is something fishy going on?[/quote']

Update, he said he missed the MIK sticker and misspoke, it is indeed Korean. But he also said he couldn't disclose what the secret of the MR factory code is.

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Posted 16 April 2010 - 05:42 PM

Hey fellow Epi-heads,

This is fantastic work, & much appreciated, but what should I make of a 'Zephyr' with R99Mxxxx serial number.

From the list I am thinking 'R' = Peerless Korea, '99' = 1999, but what does the letter 'M' before the four final numbers indicate?

This doesn't quite fit any of the code patterns on the list.

Cheers.

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Posted 16 April 2010 - 05:46 PM

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As already mentioned your guitar seems to be legit,

the guitar dater don't know the newer serial numbers

08= year
11= month
23= factory code Indonesia
0041= production#

here is some stuff to read
http://www.gibson.co...-web-sites-722/

Peter


thanks for the info, I appreciate the help.

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Posted 22 April 2010 - 10:04 AM

Hi!

Can someone help me date my Epi Elite Thunderbird. Serial is 200038 on the back of the head.

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Posted 24 April 2010 - 08:39 AM

Bumping as my first non-introduction post.

I figured my factory from the info from the OP--many thanks! (It's Quingdao.)

I tried to get the factory info for my Epi LP Jr., but the Guitar Dater Project site told me the "Y" code is not yet in the database. Perhaps some day . . .

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Posted 24 April 2010 - 08:46 AM

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What's the serial# of your LesPaul ?


Sorry--I realize now my post was ambiguous. I meant to say that I figured out the factory for my Les Paul Standard Plus Top, and it's Quingdao.

The guitar for which I cannot determine the factory, the Les Paul Jr., bears the following serial number on the neck plate:

Y6120308

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Posted 25 April 2010 - 10:50 PM

I'll BUMP this. I'm guessing my "Y" serial number prefix for the LP Jr. is still an unknown as of now.

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Posted 25 April 2010 - 10:58 PM

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I'll BUMP this. I'm guessing my "Y" serial number prefix for the LP Jr. is still an unknown as of now.

Old Ampeg Guy


A "Y" serial is new to me. Did you buy it at an authorised Epiphone dealer?
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Posted 26 April 2010 - 07:15 AM

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A "Y" serial is new to me. Did you buy it at an authorised Epiphone dealer?


Yes, Guitar Center. This would have been early April, 1997 IIRC. It was at the beginning of Guitar Center's first stocking of the Juniors, and I believe they were $99.00. FWIW, it is an unbelievably good guitar for the money (the replacement pickups I put in later entirely aside).

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Posted 26 April 2010 - 07:41 AM

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Yes, Guitar Center. This would have been early April, 1997 IIRC.



Y6120308 would indicate '96 as the year it was made. Do you recall if it had any stickers indicating the country of manufacturing?
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Posted 26 April 2010 - 07:53 AM

Yes, the Guitar Dater Project site identified the year as 1996 when I checked it Saturday.

I pride myself on my memory, but it's been a while. [biggrin] IIRC, it may have been a Malaysia (or Indonesia?) sticker, but I'm a bit foggy on it because one thing I do recall is removing the sticker shortly after getting it home, so the sticker has not been on the guitar more recently than the purchase date if that recollection is correct.

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Posted 29 April 2010 - 12:05 AM

BUMPing this for newbies newer than me, or those who may not have seen it yet.

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Now a sticky......

Thread cleaned up as well
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One more thing:

Peter (paruwi6172) will head the charge in making changes to the opening thread as needed. Steve is very busy so he felt, and I agree that Peter would be the right member for maintaining this thread........ That's if Peter is okay with it????:)
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Posted 10 May 2010 - 01:33 PM

Congratulations, Peter!!!! I've noticed while looking
for serial number info that OTHER SITES mention this
particular thread, and post links. Also shows up a lot
in google searches.
First order of business, install direct phone line to
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Posted 11 May 2010 - 09:08 AM

1st -- Congratulations Epiphone community -- your I.D. needs are now better served.
2nd -- thanks duane v for taking members' input seriously and making it happen!

Animalfarm is right and to that fact I have already suggested to duane that an automatic redirect be placed on the old thread to keep searchers out there from being lost in cyberspace or linking to a thread that will very soon be outdated (if not already, hah, ha). Hopefully either that or the move will preserve the link and take people to the right cyberaddress. Hey, what do I know about computer geekery goo... 12 bar blues still has me all tangled up... in a good way.

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New member with serial # question.
Mine is S0604115
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Would that make it an 06 made in Korea?

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 06:55 AM

Got a 10011511213 LP Standard

So, guess, January 2010, Qingdao
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Posted 28 May 2010 - 03:05 AM

Can you help me? The serial number of my Wildkat is 0911230454

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Posted 29 May 2010 - 02:12 PM

Hi, I've been looking for a nice epiphone lp online and came across this. I've read the first post but have no idea how to decode this serial. Obviously J means it's made in Japan but from there I have no idea.

The # is J11513936

thanks for any help

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Posted 29 May 2010 - 02:44 PM

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Hi, I've been looking for a nice epiphone lp online and came across this. I've read the first post but have no idea how to decode this serial. Obviously J means it's made in Japan but from there I have no idea.

The # is J11513936

thanks for any help


I think that the Japan made instruments are from the Terada Plant, and have a "T" for the serial #
I tried the dater, and your number was not recognized.

Peter will confirm, but I would keep looking.
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Posted 29 May 2010 - 03:21 PM

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Hi, I've been looking for a nice epiphone lp online and came across this. I've read the first post but have no idea how to decode this serial. Obviously J means it's made in Japan but from there I have no idea.

The # is J11513936


Do you have any idea at all if git is 1991 or 2001?
I keep seeing this breakdown in my mind, but I may be confusing it
with something else... Maybe a Gibson breakdown? Cannot find the site
I saw this on.

J = Japan
1 = 2001?
151 = 151st day of year (May 31st)
3966 = production number

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Posted 31 May 2010 - 01:29 AM

hi,
just want to ask if this is a legit MIK Epiphone Les Paul Standard PLUS Limited edition.

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Posted 03 June 2010 - 06:04 AM

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Posted 07 June 2010 - 09:26 PM

Hey guys i just recently bought an epiphone les paul goldtop off of ebay. Im not 100% about the actual model or even how legit it is. The description stated that he bought it brand new in 2001 however the serial number would suggest it was built in 2003.

Is there a way i can find out whether it is an elitist or just a standard with a pretty paintjob and a new truss rod cover?

The serial number is U03011946 and the truss rod cover is the vertical word Gibson.

Any help is much appreciated.

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Posted 08 June 2010 - 04:05 PM

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It's not an Elitist.

Yours is Korean made.

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Okay well thats one thing checked off but is there any way i can find out if its a legit epiphone?

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Posted 09 June 2010 - 08:09 PM

Oh my bad.

[IMG]http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad309/Jabawokki/LSGT-case.jpg[/img]
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Dunno if you can see em, its comin up as red xs on my preview. Nothin wrong with the photobucket img code is there?

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Posted 19 June 2010 - 05:37 AM

Just purchased a used Epi LP lefty from about the mid 90's. The owner said that he's had it about 15 years. The serial number is 9403209. From what I found at this site... http://fuq.encycmet.com/questions/379/ ...it's a Nashville built instrument from 1994. It is a bolt on neck and has a truss cover that has Gibson on it. All black with no binding. Since web site information can be wrong at times I figured that someone here would have the straigh skinny on this serial number. It's a nice guitar with electric problems that I will be sorting out soon and where and when it ws made is not too important as the guitar is what it is. I'd just like to know. Thanks and I hope to be contributing here soon. Bob

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Posted 19 June 2010 - 06:49 AM

Peter, No letters at all. My info came from that site link that is in my post. I questioned its accuracy and that is why I ask here. I had a Douglas Shadow Gold Top that looked and played EXACTLY like the Epi I just purchased. Some of the guys over at the Agile forum said that Epiphones and Douglases were made in the same plant. That I could believe because the two are so much alike. I am still wondering about where this is made. The year seems likely to be mid 90's according to the guy I bought it from. My daughter found on the Gibson web site something pertaining to the Epiphones year and month but no factory code. With this info mine would have been made in March of 1994. The info we did find shows that Japan was the only one that may not have had a letter code. They stopped production in Japan in 1993 and moved to Korea for the 1994 run. Again, I am in doubt as to where it was made but with this info I would think Korea. Perhaps early in the Korean run and using what was left of metal plates from Japan, if they had started stampings for the upcoming 94 year? Ya think? Probably not but it is something to consider. I find it interesting, and fun, tracking things like this down.

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Posted 21 June 2010 - 03:11 AM

Hi, i checked in guitardater but it says serial number not recognised... though using the formula in the first page, i'm guessing the its made in qingdao china, but is my guitar really legit since serial numbers can be faked? serial - 09101506562
i'm using an epiphone les paul standard plus

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Posted 21 June 2010 - 04:19 AM

thanks for the quick reply =D
i bought it from a private dealer, apparently he orders it from the supplier and sells them..
i bought it for USD$675 (cheaper than retail music shops), for some reason epiphones price in malaysia are alot higher compared to US =(

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oh, and there isnt any warranty card either, just comes with the owner manual and a poster with all the epiphone models

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Posted 21 June 2010 - 10:49 PM

phew thanks! Is it normal that there isnt a warranty card? i thought a well known brand like epi would have provided one?
And sorry, im sure this has been asked many times, but hows the quality of the china made epi after 2008? heard alot of bad reviews on chinas qc and production. And how do they compare with indo made ones?

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 06:18 AM

What if the last 3 digits are etched out and the back of the headstock is stamped used?

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Posted 02 July 2010 - 10:30 PM

The Epiphone I have has a serial number....C4122476, where could it be from? Canada?
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Posted 03 July 2010 - 03:05 PM

Wow, I'm glad this thread exists! My main guitar since the mid-ninties has been my Epiphone Les Paul. I don't know anything about it though, I'm not even sure if it's a studio, special, custom or what. I'd love to know anything I can about it. It's all black with cream pickgaurd and pickup rings. No binding or special inlays. It says Epiphone on the headstock in abalone(decal?) and the Truss rod plate reads: Gibson (vertically). The dot inlays look like fake Abalone. I'm pretty sure it's a 3 piece alder body. I got it in 1996 at the Guitar Center in El Cerrito California.

Serial Number: F5090321

Something that throws me off... The Neckplate reads: "Hand-crafted in Korea by Epiphone. The Epiphone Company Nashville Tennessee USA"

So it says Korean made yet the Serial number starts with F which makes me think it's Japan made. Any info on this guitar would be much appreciated. Thank you!

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Posted 03 July 2010 - 03:54 PM

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My main guitar since the mid-ninties has been my Epiphone Les Paul.
I got it in 1996 at the Guitar Center in El Cerrito California.

Serial Number: F5090321

Something that throws me off... The Neckplate reads: "Hand-crafted in Korea by
Epiphone. The Epiphone Company Nashville Tennessee USA"
So it says Korean made yet the Serial number starts with F which makes me think it's Japan made.


Guitar Dater says:
Your guitar was made at the
Fine Guitars Plant, Korea
September 1995
Production Number: 0321

F = Fine Guitars Plant, Korea (for NON-Elitist Models, which yours is).
5 = 1995
09 = September
Prod. # = 0321 for that month

Manual/Visual verification of Factory code in Original Post
matches the Production Plant indicated by Guitar Dater.....

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Posted 03 July 2010 - 04:08 PM

Thank you so much, animalfarm! I love this guitar. Any clue on the model by any chance? It looks exactly like a "Les Paul 100 Ebony" with these 3 visual differences:

It doesn't say "les Paul" on the headstock
the truss rod plate reads "gibson"
Different tuning machines than that of the '100 Ebony'


It's ok if you don't have that info. I appreciate the help!

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Posted 03 July 2010 - 04:13 PM

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Thank you so much, animalfarm! I love this guitar. Any clue on the model by any chance? It looks exactly like a "Les Paul 100 Ebony" with these 3 visual differences:

It doesn't say "les Paul" on the headstock
the truss rod plate reads "gibson"
Different tuning machines than that of the '100 Ebony'
It's ok if you don't have that info. I appreciate the help!


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Posted 11 July 2010 - 10:45 PM

Hey all! I'm new to the board, and am in the process of scraping together the money to get a blonde Dot.

My question is: How far back do these codes cover on Epi's made overseas? My little brother has an ET-290 that I bought almost 25 years ago for $95. Just recently figured out what the model number was. We have passed it between myself, my little brother, and one of our other brothers a few times. I've been told ours was made around 1970, but haven't had a way to verify more precisely. Are there any identifiable codes for Epi's that old?

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Posted 12 July 2010 - 01:17 AM

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from page 1: note that for guitars made prior to 1993, the serial # assigned does not reveal the date or factory where made

General wisdom is that serial #s pre-93 were not coded and that no records were kept of what guitar = what production factory. This was due to the outsourcing of production to many different makers after the Michigan production shutdown. Only Epi knows for sure. You can try contacting Epi directly with what you already know about year made, serial, etc. and see what they reply. Best of luck.

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Posted 12 July 2010 - 07:39 AM

Thanks Steven, I missed that in the initial post. Guess I should read a little more carefully next time. I'll have to grab the info from my brother. I'll see if he can snap some pics too, and I'll put them up.

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 03:12 PM

Hi!

I'm looking for some help to indentify my les paul. I can't find it's serialnumber anywhere. It's a six digit number reading "002249".

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 12:10 PM

I am looking for more information on my guitar. I just bought it for $300 from a local seller (via Craigslist).

**Here is what I have so far.**

Serial numberU00081288

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Your guitar was made at the
Unsung Plant, Korea
August 2000
Production Number: 1288

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Un Sung Musical Instrument Co., Ltd. was established in 1987, Inchon, Korea. They have productive capability 50,000 of Electric Guitars and basses a year. Not only do they produce guitars for several well known brands by OEM but also have their own line 'Silver Star'.


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I am looking for dimensions. Nut width, Bracket sizes for pickups, etc. The attached Tremolo is a cool feature but it knocks the guitar out of tune so bad it's horrible. I suspect I can correct this with a new Tusq nut made for guitars with a trem with wide grooves (I play with 11's) and possibly a bridge with rollers instead of the tune-o-matic.

Thoughts? I appreciate any assistance you guys can offer. I am very new to guitar, and even more new to electric guitar.

Thanks
Matt

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Posted 29 July 2010 - 09:38 AM

Well scratch the nut width I just went ahead and bought one. I also picked up the chrome pickup brackets, I can't wait to finish all the mods I wanna do. I would still like to know the model and such if anyone has an idea. ** Also another update, I figured out my Bigsby (Vibratone), I watched a youtube vid with tips on how to keep it in tune. Basically you tune it up a little sharp, strum a bit and toy with whammy, then tune each string again gently using the Bigsby after tuning each string. This apparently evens out string tension after every point of contact. This helped a lot, I was able to give it a go without knocking my guitar out of tune. Now all I have to do is learn how to use the damn thing:P

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Posted 05 August 2010 - 08:50 AM

Hey chaps,

New to this place. Bought a Casino the other day, and just have a quick query...

The only serial number I can locate is on the sticker inside the body, and there doesn't appear to be one on the headstock. Is this the norm?

And am I right in thinking that the serial numbers no longer include a factory letter?

Serial number is - 09111501035

So made in November '09, but thats all I can decipher.

Any info. would be appreciated.

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 12:06 PM

I went to the guitar dater site, put in my serial number for my Les Paul, but got a "serial number unrecognized" result.

According to the first post, anything built before 93, the codes don't really give any info.

Mine is S9200577. I used to think the 92 was for 1992, but now not sure with the pre '93 info. Anyone have any idea?

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 08:45 AM

Hi!
I'm having an old SQ-180, and I cant read the SN. I thinhk its made in Korea in '92, but im not sure. The code is 1121298.
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EDIT:Thats OK, I found by myself. It read this way: YMMPPPP(1(91)12(december)1298(production number))
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Epiphone SQ-180
Made in 1991, in Korea

1121298
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Posted 28 August 2010 - 09:03 PM

Hey guys, would really appreciate help ID'ing my Epiphone. I attached pictures to make it easier. Here's what I found at the Guitar Dater Project:

Your guitar was made at a factory not yet added to the database
August 2000
Production Number: 0049


It looks a lot like a Les Paul Junior, but the guitar doesn't actually say Les Paul anywhere. It's TV Yellow, the serial is J00080049. I've spent the better part of a day researching and can't find it anywhere, so any help would be greatly appreciated. I'd like to get an idea of how much it might be worth, might have to sell it to pay for some upcoming bills.

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 12:11 AM

View Postjivetank, on 28 August 2010 - 09:03 PM, said:

Hey guys, would really appreciate help ID'ing my Epiphone. I attached pictures to make it easier. Here's what I found at the Guitar Dater Project:

Your guitar was made at a factory not yet added to the database
August 2000
Production Number: 0049


It looks a lot like a Les Paul Junior, but the guitar doesn't actually say Les Paul anywhere. It's TV Yellow, the serial is J00080049. I've spent the better part of a day researching and can't find it anywhere, so any help would be greatly appreciated. I'd like to get an idea of how much it might be worth, might have to sell it to pay for some upcoming bills.

Thanks,
Sam.

Hi Sam.

The guitar is a Les Paul Junior DC (Double-Cut) made in Indonesia in August 2000. As far as I've heard these are quite sought after, but try creating a new post in the elctrics session. Some of the other members might be able to help you.
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Posted 29 August 2010 - 12:27 AM

Thanks Rene, that's very helpful. Would be a nice surprise if I could get a good price for it. I'll ask around in the electrics section.

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Posted 05 September 2010 - 07:46 PM

Still no luck figuring out what Korean factory corresponds to the MR code?

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Posted 07 September 2010 - 01:14 AM

View Postespen72, on 15 March 2010 - 04:56 AM, said:

I own a black explorer, the headstock says "Epiphone by Gibson", I bought the guitar second hand back in the very early 90`s sometime, so my guess is thats its built at least a few years ahead of that. Its fitted with black hardware, and a locking tremolo, the humbuckers are split half white and half black, the serial # on a sticker on the headstock reads 880400161, I just played it end never thought of it really, but owning it for nearly 20 years now, it would be fun to know if this is a genuine thing or just some fake thing, as I have never really seen one like it, tnx in advance for any help!

I just picked up an Epiphone S800 at GC today(Labor Day). $99! (They wanted $150). They had it marked incorrectly as an Epiphone Extreme? All original black hardware. The color is metallic black so it looks very stealthy. It has the "hockey stick" headstock like your Explorer. What caught my eye was the pearloid inlay "Epiphone by Gibson" in a big, bold font. It looks elegant on a black headstock. All it needed was a little TLC with a Dunlop cleaning kit. Extensive research at other sites reveals that it was manufactured in 1988. It has the HSS pickup configuration with the split-coil bridge humbucker when you pull the tone knob. It also has the Steinberger KB tremolo. Anyway what piqued my curiosity is that my serial no. is very close to your's: 880400453. Can anybody here please shed some light as to details of this guitar. I have read this entire thread but it seems that these guitars go back before they started using letters.

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Posted 07 September 2010 - 02:20 PM

View PostPete.R, on 07 September 2010 - 09:46 AM, said:

Hi,

and welcome here.

RobinTheHood (RTH) has made a spec sheet....

http://epiphone.3house.com/

and HNGD !

Thanks for the warm welcome! I'm already familiar with that very informative site. I learned a lot about the specs of the guitar there but, what I was further interested in is cool stuff that's being talked about in this thread. Like where the guitar was manufactured(e.g.-what country, I know, I know Samick, in Korea). What do the numbers mean? My serial # is peculiar because it has nine digits with no letters. Does it mean that it was made in April of '88 and the run is 453? Stuff like that.
Anyway,I also own an 1978 Les Paul Custom that I bought in 1979 at the Chicago Guitar Company. I am the original owner. I'll have to look at the serial tonight and see if I can discover something more about it.

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 09:40 PM

Hi,I have an S310 and I dont know how to trace the year it was made the serial number is JI98080030... I boought to some guy in mexico for $80 and i would really like how much it costs and everything, but i haven't been able to find out the year.


Can someone help me?

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View Postramffer, on 12 September 2010 - 09:40 PM, said:

Hi,I have an S310 and I dont know how to trace the year it was made the serial number is JI98080030... I boought to some guy in mexico for $80 and i would really like how much it costs and everything, but i haven't been able to find out the year.

Can someone help me?


I have visions of - "psssssst! Senor, Senor! Want to buy this guitar I have
hidden under my overcoat? I make you goooood deal, eh?" [biggrin]

Well.....
Guitar Dater Project says:
Your guitar was made at a factory not yet added to the database (JI)
August 1998 (9808)
Production Number: 0030

RobinTheHood (RTH) has made a spec sheet....
http://epiphone.3house.com/

Click on S-310 or S-310 Custom (which ever is yours), look at drop-down box,
has pics and descpription to help you verify WHICH is the one you have.

Then check Ebay for any listings - for example:

'93 EPIPHONE GIBSON S-310→Black Strat Beauty‼ reduced! Buy it Now - $179.00
http://cgi.ebay.com/...=item19bf594cf6

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Posted 18 September 2010 - 02:58 PM

View Postanimalfarm, on 13 September 2010 - 02:26 AM, said:

I have visions of - "psssssst! Senor, Senor! Want to buy this guitar I have
hidden under my overcoat? I make you goooood deal, eh?" [biggrin]

Well.....
Guitar Dater Project says:
Your guitar was made at a factory not yet added to the database (JI)
August 1998 (9808)
Production Number: 0030....



hey man thanks for being that nice, sorry for not answering sooner
but I'm at college right now and it's been a little hectic...


you almost got that story right, i saw it announced on a newspaper and went to some dude's
random house, it was really sketchy hood and wasn't sure if the post was real but then it
turned put to be a nice guy whose kid didn't really want to learn guitar so kinda lucky for
me...

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Posted 03 October 2010 - 11:23 AM

View Postbob_amos, on 19 June 2010 - 05:37 AM, said:

Just purchased a used Epi LP lefty from about the mid 90's. The owner said that he's had it about 15 years. The serial number is 9403209. From what I found at this site... http://fuq.encycmet.com/questions/379/ ...it's a Nashville built instrument from 1994. It is a bolt on neck and has a truss cover that has Gibson on it. All black with no binding. Since web site information can be wrong at times I figured that someone here would have the straigh skinny on this serial number. It's a nice guitar with electric problems that I will be sorting out soon and where and when it ws made is not too important as the guitar is what it is. I'd just like to know. Thanks and I hope to be contributing here soon. Bob


Hi Bob and welcome. If your LP has a bolt on neck, I think you can pretty safely assume it's not an authentic Epiphone. And it most definitely was not made in Nashville. That doesn't mean it's not a decent guitar; many of the early LP copies that were made in Japan had bolt on necks. But Gibson/Epiphone has never, to my knowledge, made a LP with a bolt on neck.

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Posted 08 October 2010 - 05:53 PM

View PostHarpBoy, on 03 October 2010 - 11:23 AM, said:

Hi Bob and welcome. If your LP has a bolt on neck, I think you can pretty safely assume it's not an authentic Epiphone. And it most definitely was not made in Nashville. That doesn't mean it's not a decent guitar; many of the early LP copies that were made in Japan had bolt on necks. But Gibson/Epiphone has never, to my knowledge, made a LP with a bolt on neck.

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Posted 18 October 2010 - 03:45 PM

Hello to all on the forum, there is a lot of good information here.

I tried using the search tools, but could not find an answer so here goes:

Recently bought a second hand Epiphone LP standard, and when I tried to date it the serial number was not known. The serial number on both the box that the guitar was in, and via a printed sticker on the neck are listed as 311445073. However, when I peeled the sticker off there is a number stamped underneath it as EE03114*** with the last three digits having been 'dimpled/ drilled' out and painted over.

Accordingly, although the guitar looks every much the real thing the tuning keys are made by Jinho and not Grover, and I am a littles suspicious now.

Can any of you sages help out here, as if it is fake then I will return it.

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Posted 18 October 2010 - 04:47 PM

Thanks for the reply, appreciate it, but I still have a couple questions if you could help with:

Any idea why Epiphone would put a new serial number over the old one, and remove the last three digits of the original stamped in number?

Also, the tuning heads being made by Jinho, were these official bin parts used by Epiphone?

Finally, the original number of EE03114xxx, would seem to date it from 2003. Is there any other way to verify this from the type of equipment fitted?

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Posted 18 October 2010 - 05:33 PM

Thanks again for replying.

I wholly agree that it is an awful amount of effort to fake a guitar of relatively minor value, and having seen your earlier reply, I am satisfied it is most likely legit.

However, I am curious by nature, and don't understand why a manufacturer would change only a part of a numbering system as opposed to either deleting the original entirely, or adding a prefix to indicate something else in the manufacturing process .

In addition, I was asking if Epiphone would have originally used Jinho tuners in the past, in particular around 2003/2004?

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Posted 19 October 2010 - 05:33 PM

The reason they replace the serial number with a sticker and remove the last few digits of the original is to prevent someone from removing the sticker and selling it as a new guitar instead of a used or factory second. Leaving the beginning of the serial number unaltered is probably to be able to track the date and factory where it was manufactured if necessary.

And yes, the original number shows it was made in QingDao China in November 2003.
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Posted 20 October 2010 - 12:59 PM

Hey all! I'm new to the board,I have new epiphone les paul standard trans blue buyed from local music shop .

My question is: Is Really Epiphone factory made or is fake the serial number is :1001236384 and on sticker is Made in Indonesia.Thanks for reply.

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Posted 20 October 2010 - 01:26 PM

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 08:57 AM

Hi, on my sheraton 1 ther's only this number on the back of neck S6054101 someone can tell me more about her ? What kind of PU are on , and the year of birth i think from Korea but i'm no sure .
Thanks for all and sorry for my english so limitated i'm from Italy.

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 10:20 AM

View PostCiglia60, on 21 October 2010 - 08:57 AM, said:

Hi, on my sheraton 1 ther's only this number on the back of neck S6054101 someone can tell me more about her ? What kind of PU are on , and the year of birth i think from Korea but i'm no sure .
Thanks for all and sorry for my english so limitated i'm from Italy.



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Sheraton I, :-k I tend to say '86 made

and of course, pics would help


What's a Sheraton 1??? There were the original Sheratons, mini humbuckers and Frequensator tailpiece, and there were the Asian Sheraton II with full sized 'buckers and stop tailpiece. AFAIK, no Samick made Sheraton came with minis or a freakin' sator. And it can't be a 1986, because those serial #s that started with the factory codes weren't used until the early '90s. Without seeing it, I would say it's a 1996 Samick made Sheraton II.
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Posted 26 October 2010 - 04:41 PM

1965 Epiphone Casino
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Posted 31 October 2010 - 08:34 PM

I've also got the mystery MR factory code on mine - sorry can't post pics at the moment but it has a made in Korea sticker on it, the rest of the serial number says it was manufactured in 09/2001 and number 0334. It is an Epi LP Extreme - White Pearloid top. I've found that all other Epis of this particular finish also have the MR factory code. I read that Epiphone were contacted directly and they said it could be a misprint and it was meant to be MK (Muse, Korea) but I find it difficult to believe that they'd get it wrong on a lot of guitars. It's a mystery!

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Posted 02 November 2010 - 01:44 PM

so a S followed by a number means its samick made? mines from 2004 epiphone sheraton cant remember where it was made think korea i hope not china but i didnt realise it was a samick?!

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Posted 02 November 2010 - 02:11 PM

View Postdelek 99, on 02 November 2010 - 01:44 PM, said:

so a S followed by a number means its samick made? mines from 2004 epiphone sheraton cant remember where it was made think korea i hope not china but i didnt realise it was a samick?!


I doubt it. Are you sure it's a 2004???

S = Samick, but Samick went bankrupt in the late 1990s, when they reorganized around 2002, they closed the factory in Korea. All of the current Samicks are made in their Indonesian factory which would be SI for Samick Indonesia. There's no Samick China. Why don't you post the serial # (you can skip the last 4 digits if you're paranoid) and I'll tell you the when & wheres.
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Posted 02 November 2010 - 02:43 PM

not 100% sure its 2004 but thats when i was given it brand new this is the number on the back
S020612705

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Posted 02 November 2010 - 02:46 PM

View Postdelek 99, on 02 November 2010 - 02:43 PM, said:

not 100% sure its 2004 but thats when i was given it brand new this is the number on the back
S020612705

maybe 2002 does this mean indonesian made [confused]

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Posted 02 November 2010 - 03:20 PM

heres the headstockAttached Image: DSC00240.JPG back with the serial [unsure] hope its not too dark to see!

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Posted 02 November 2010 - 04:50 PM

View Postdelek 99, on 02 November 2010 - 02:43 PM, said:

not 100% sure its 2004 but thats when i was given it brand new this is the number on the back
S020612705



View Postdelek 99, on 02 November 2010 - 02:46 PM, said:

maybe 2002 does this mean indonesian made [confused]


The serial # shows it is was made by Samick in Korea in June 2002. Probably one of the last ones out of Korea, I think they had pretty much shut down the Korean factory by the end of 2002. That's why 2004 didn't seem right to me.

Actually, Samick started construction of the Indonesian factory in the early 1990s. Like Cort and other Korean corporations, the Korean economy in the 1990s was devastating. Cort also moved their factory to Indonesia, and AFAIK the only guitars Cort still makes in Korea are high end acoustics under their Parkwood brand as well as some acoustics for other companies like Carvin.

Samick was purchased in June 2002 and the new management made moves to make the company more profitable. By 2005, Samick was once again profitable.

Like all the great Samick Sheratons, your's has the highly desirable 5 piece neck. But here's the bottom line, you have the guitar, you know how good it is, would that change if I told you it was made in Krapsville??? It is what it is, enjoy it.
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Posted 03 November 2010 - 03:22 AM

cheers jerrymac dead chuffed with that run down was hoping it was korean, but i suppose ur right with the last point you made [rolleyes]

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 08:58 AM

If I understand the first post in this thread, then my Epiphone Dot is an October 2000 model made in Unsung, Korea, #2176.
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Posted 08 November 2010 - 10:24 AM

View PostPete.R, on 05 November 2010 - 09:06 AM, said:

If your serial# looks like

U 00 10 2176

then yep !

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Posted 08 November 2010 - 03:13 PM

How about help dating a Epiphone Les Paul Junior that I just picked up today? The guitar dater project says the year is 1921 (lol).

The serial number is MC21120243

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Posted 08 November 2010 - 05:54 PM

OK I just bought a what the seller says is an Epiphone LP 100 off ebay the serial# is 0808133430 but I don't see a factory number 13 on the list. Does that mean it's a fake?

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Posted 11 November 2010 - 10:28 PM

Sooooo....if my Casino's s/n = 03121500496 then it was made Dec 2003 in Qingdad (China) the 496th made? If true and I bought it "new" May of 2010 from a local music store, has it just been sitting in a warehouse for 6-1/2 years? Interesting....

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Posted 11 November 2010 - 10:55 PM

View PostDancinbaer, on 11 November 2010 - 10:28 PM, said:

Sooooo....if my Casino's s/n = 03121500496 then it was made Dec 2003 in Qingdad (China) the 496th made? If true and I bought it "new" May of 2010 from a local music store, has it just been sitting in a warehouse for 6-1/2 years? Interesting....

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Nope, can't be. That serial # system only began in 2008.

A 2003 serial number would be EE03120001
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Posted 12 November 2010 - 10:14 AM

View Postjerrymac, on 11 November 2010 - 10:55 PM, said:

Nope, can't be. That serial # system only began in 2008.

A 2003 serial number would be EE03120001


Is there a way of decifering my serial number? I entered it in the guitar dater. It did not recognize the number but did return the 15 meant the factory is in China. Now I am getting curious as to when it was actually manufactured.

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Posted 12 November 2010 - 10:44 AM

View PostDancinbaer, on 12 November 2010 - 10:14 AM, said:

Is there a way of decifering my serial number? I entered it in the guitar dater. It did not recognize the number but did return the 15 meant the factory is in China. Now I am getting curious as to when it was actually manufactured.


15 is the Epiphone factory in QingDao China. What's not right is the 03, it can't be. In 2003, serial numbers began with a letter(s). In 2008, the letters were dropped and replaced with numbers in the 5th & 6th digits. So you're right that 15 means your guitar was made in QingDao China, but it couldn't have been made in 2003. The number you posted conflicts with itself. It's not a legitimate serial number. Are you sure 03 isn't 08??? Can you post a photo???
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Posted 13 November 2010 - 08:34 AM

View Postjerrymac, on 12 November 2010 - 10:44 AM, said:

15 is the Epiphone factory in QingDao China. What's not right is the 03, it can't be. In 2003, serial numbers began with a letter(s). In 2008, the letters were dropped and replaced with numbers in the 5th & 6th digits. So you're right that 15 means your guitar was made in QingDao China, but it couldn't have been made in 2003. The number you posted conflicts with itself. It's not a legitimate serial number. Are you sure 03 isn't 08??? Can you post a photo???

Couldn't get a good photo. But in the attempt I got a closer look at the number and the first digit could very well be an '8'. Thanks.

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Posted 08 December 2010 - 05:57 PM

Someone Help me,
I want buy a new guitar, but i don't know where was it made. The guy in the store said: The guitar was made in Korea. but i dont believe him. The serial number is 1004302979

Year: 10 2010?
Month: 04 April?
Day: 30


Help please

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Posted 11 December 2010 - 04:07 PM

Serial# U08020861
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Posted 12 December 2010 - 05:43 PM

SI 08022409

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Posted 16 December 2010 - 08:17 PM

Im worried, I purchased a new Epiphone Les Paul Standard guitar from a Gibson/Epiphone dealer. After I brought it home I realized the serial number didn't look right?

This is the number on the back of the head stock: 09051505618

Is it a fake? Any help would be greatly appreciated, Thank you.

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Posted 17 December 2010 - 09:48 AM

Here are two that are not listed.

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Attached Image: P1010012.JPGYeah I'm confused ... did the serial # lookup on one site claims my Epi Goth Explorer is 91 unknown factory and if I run number through the "formula" it's 09 unknown factory ?!?!

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Posted 18 December 2010 - 01:00 PM

THANKS MUCH ! ... was a little worried because I was told at purchase (used/private seller) that he bought it 6 months ago new so I guess that's possible. Son's getting it for Christmas this year and I know he'll be pumped either way.

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Posted 18 December 2010 - 05:42 PM

View PostPete.R, on 17 December 2010 - 02:02 PM, said:

No worries,

at least the serial# is legit....

09=year
05=month
15=factorycode for Gibson owned QingDao plant, China
05618=production#

The serial#system changed in 2008 from letter-prefix to this

Thank you for the reply, I have also recieved confirmation from Yorkville Music and Epiphone. Looking foward to learning how to play!!

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Posted 26 December 2010 - 12:25 AM

Hi. I have a made in Japan, Epiphone Casino es-255 with serial number 940750. Anyone know what year this guitar was made?

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Posted 26 December 2010 - 08:56 AM

My mistake, it's actually an EA-255 - Casino. Yes it's exactly like the one in the picture (although the pictured guitar is not mine!)

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Hi Chaps,

and welcome here.

What is a Casino ES-255 ?
The guit in your avatar ?

Pics would help......


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Posted 02 January 2011 - 05:10 PM

the serial on my Epi AJ100CE is 0906192655, meaning it was made in June 2009, but 19 for factory info apparently hasn't been found yet? anyone have any idea on that?
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Posted 17 January 2011 - 05:32 AM

I might as well add mine here now that I have a keeper. Epiphone by Gibson ES335 Terada Factory 1999 - 'identical' to the Orville by Gibsons to 1998 with the possible exception of some electronics. . . and the label of course.
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View Postvaxxine, on 14 March 2010 - 08:22 AM, said:

I have an Epi Zephyr Regent. Serial number begins with R98M , followed by the sequence number. The decoder says Peerless, December 1998. But 'M' is the 13th letter of the alphabet, not the 12th. I would think December would be an 'L', not an 'M'.

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 08:43 PM

View Postvaxxine, on 19 January 2011 - 07:54 PM, said:

I have an Epi Zephyr Regent. Serial number begins with R98M , followed by the sequence number. The decoder says Peerless, December 1998. But 'M' is the 13th letter of the alphabet, not the 12th. I would think December would be an 'L', not an 'M'.

Anyone have an explanation for this ?

Thanks



There's 13 months in Korea, one for each Zodiac sign!!!


Actually, if I'm not mistaken, the letter I is skipped so it's not confused with 1 or L.
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Posted 19 January 2011 - 11:04 PM

View Postjerrymac, on 19 January 2011 - 08:43 PM, said:

There's 13 months in Korea, one for each Zodiac sign!!!


Actually, if I'm not mistaken, the letter I is skipped so it's not confused with 1 or L.


Alrighty, I can buy that. Leave the letter 'I' out of the sequence. However I also see another post in here where someone has a 'P' in their serial number (ie R99P or something like that). That's a bit mysterious too.

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Posted 30 January 2011 - 02:18 PM

09051505860 is in the back of my SG 400 model

riddle me that



This thread is a huge help though. I've been worried that I bought a fake. I still might have bought a fake....but it plays fine.

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Posted 31 January 2011 - 06:42 PM

Could you please tell me what tis serial number would be 10021507114

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Posted 31 January 2011 - 10:53 PM

View PostPete.R, on 31 January 2011 - 06:46 PM, said:

10=year
02=month
15=factorycode= Gibson owned QingDao plant, China
07114=production#

the serial is legit, that doesn't say the guitar is, too

pics would help....


It's a brand new zakk wylde zv from willis music company . thanks for the help , tryed to run number on guitar site , my other epiphones came up there .

don't think it would be fake from music store do you ? came with all epiphone paper work and warrenty card filled out . and already sent in warrrenty via epiphone online
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Posted 01 February 2011 - 01:02 AM

View Postfordnut02, on 31 January 2011 - 10:53 PM, said:

It's a brand new zakk wylde zv from willis music company . thanks for the help , tryed to run number on guitar site , my other epiphones came up there .

don't think it would be fake from music store do you ? came with all epiphone paper work and warrenty card filled out . and already sent in warrrenty via epiphone online

No, if you bought it from an official Epiphone dealer, there should be no problem with fakes.
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Posted 06 February 2011 - 06:18 PM

Hi, So I'm a Noob and just got a Gibson Epiphone Flying V it's completely trashed, but that makes it look pretty good actually.

Problem is, the serial # is only partialy showing! or is it? What I can read is 9042630

After reading a lot about these Serials, Me thinks it's a Japanese, Orville (Korean made) 1989 model. What do you think?

The whole thing is made out of one piece.


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Posted 10 February 2011 - 08:12 AM

Hi everyone!

I've been looking around for a while now, and can't really find how to decode the 7-digits-serial on my turquoise-sunburst Epiphone Les Paul.
The serial is F6060630, and GuitarDaterProject says it was made in '96 in Fine Guitars, Korea. But I really doubt it : the neck binding is cracked all the way long, as on vintage guitars (i've had guitars from '95, and they never chracked this way). The seller told me it's from the early 80's, maybe even earlier.
It's a limited edition, so it should be easy to find... (but isn't)

Help anyone? :D

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Posted 10 February 2011 - 10:07 AM

Thank you Pete!

I find the binding crack pretty surprizing, for a guitar so recent. Is it usual on other Epi LP?
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I was hoping so hard it would be older! :'( I just have to find out how much it costs, before buying it.

BTW, sorry I'm pretty sure it's not the right thread, but didn't find it :
Where can I find how much this guitar would cost? The seller asks $820 for it. Is that honnest, bargain, theft?

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Posted 10 February 2011 - 05:04 PM

View PostPete.R, on 10 February 2011 - 04:39 PM, said:

Hi,

I don't think the serial is missing something.

To my knowledge it is April '89 made in Korea, probably at the Samick plant

No Letter prefix doesn't mean it's Japan made....

The serial stickers look exactly like the ones on the "Epiphone by Gibson" models

which were produced at the same time-range

http://forum.gibson....ub/page__st__20

^^ see post #32 and #51 ^^

Others might correct me....

Wow!!! Awesome!!! 1989! That is pretty BRUTAL! It was deadsmack in the middle of some real good Thrash Metal years.

Then I was pretty close with my guesstimate. I thought it to be Korean also. I read somewhere that most Japanese models were Korean made.

Do you think you could say something about her value? She'll be going to a doctor soon for a complete modern day revitalizing hardware upgrade. No face lift I think she's real sexy looking like this.

Many thanks on the info. \m/

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 01:38 AM

View PostPete.R, on 10 February 2011 - 09:59 AM, said:

'96 is right.

There was not any Epi LesPaul made in Korea in the "early 80s"


Hi, do you know what this colour is called? It's different from Blueburst or Trans Blue, as the center is turquoise...
BTW, I didn't find a history of all limited series made by Epiphone. Any idea where I could find that?

Thanks!

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Posted 14 February 2011 - 03:38 PM

could use a little help. I have a Epihpone that was given to me by a family member. I have no clue what model it is, other than it being a Epiphone. The neck plate on the back of the guitar has CI97118562 or it could be CL97118562. I've attached a pic of the plate. any info would be greatly appreciated.
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View Postxxeroxedxx, on 14 February 2011 - 03:38 PM, said:

could use a little help. I have a Epihpone that was given to me by a family member. I have no clue what model it is, other than it being a Epiphone. The neck plate on the back of the guitar has CI97118562 or it could be CL97118562. I've attached a pic of the plate. any info would be greatly appreciated.



View PostPete.R, on 14 February 2011 - 04:01 PM, said:

Seems to be a Korean Les Paul Special

made Nov '97


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  Posted 15 February 2011 - 03:11 PM

Hi everyone,

I'm sorry that my first post on the forum is about this issue but I've been willing to get myself an Epiphone for a long time before they discontinued the Zakk Wylde Buzzsaw Les Paul model. Finally, a couple days ago I stumbled upon an ad on OLX Ireland for this model and asked for some pictures of it. I can't decide if it's a counterfeit or a real one and even Guitar Dater Project is clueless about it.
The serial number seems like 00503120 or O0503120. I'll try adding some pictures too. I'm kind of in a hurry to decide before I go back to my country on buying it. So I'd appreciate big time any help!

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Posted 15 February 2011 - 03:44 PM

If it begins with an O, it is indeed the referance of a Korean factory yet as you pointed out even in this case the rest of the serial # seems odd. I'm really confused :(

View PostPete.R, on 15 February 2011 - 03:37 PM, said:

Stay away !

It seems to be a fake !

At least I've never seen a serial# like this....

someone wanted to make it look like a Gibson serial [thumbdn]


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Posted 15 February 2011 - 07:30 PM

It is also missing the Zakk image on the back of the headstock.
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  Posted 18 February 2011 - 10:31 PM

Hello again everybody!

I'm writing to you in a big emergency! If I want to buy this guitar I have to move in less than 2 days or it's going to someone else :'(
I found this new ad on a Polish website and it's looking much more decent but I need your help to confirm its originality. It's once again an Epiphone ZW Buzzsaw model :^)

I can't thank you enough for saving me from a big scam last time!!!

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The serial should not be pressed into the wood, IMO

It should look like this one, it's a camo, but youn get it

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It is also missing the Zakk image on the back of the headstock.

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Posted 03 March 2011 - 04:20 PM

Hello again to everyone guys! ^_^

As you would notice, the time for me to disturb everyone once again to check the authenticity of another Buzzsaw model came already. Our most recent contestant joins us from UK and has a knob dropped-off. Its owner is a guitarist in a band called Unit Nine and the ad was found on Gumtree.

Here's the link to the pictures that I've received from him yet but I already asked for more ;)
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Thanks once again in advance for all replies!

P.S.: I really hope that this one would not be a fake and that I'd get it in order to stop finally boring everyone again and again with questions about the same model all the time [tongue]


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Posted 16 March 2011 - 01:52 AM

Hi all.

Could I get some help identifying where my new axe came from? The serial number is F302495. I am a little confused, as I read one post that said the 1959 issue was made in Japan, it also has a "Limited Edition - Epiphone - Custom Shop" printed on the back of the head. The fact the serial starts with F suggests it may be Japanese made, but it does have a made in China sticker on it.

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If anyone could shed some light for me? I'd like some peace of mind that it is not fake, although I bought it from a fairly reputable shop. I'd also like to know how they stack up against the LP Standard Plus normal model.

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Hi there

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Posted 20 March 2011 - 02:12 PM

Hi everyone!

Can't recognize my epiphone LP serial number.
It's 08081503671 and no letters.

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Posted 21 March 2011 - 06:45 PM

just want to get some input on this guitar i got a few months ago, just recently found out that its a Epiphone em-1 rebel, but want a few more ideas as to what it is, the quality of the guitar and how much it is worth, thanks in advance serial number is S9109925

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Posted 24 March 2011 - 07:56 AM

Hi Pete.R

though my serial number makes no sense at all to you - I got it...take a look. It seems that somebody snapped off a little, but I didn't do this and I bought it brand-new.

do you have another idea how to decrypt this?

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Any help with finding out where my Emperor II Joe Pass model was made ? It has no letters just numbers ?

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Posted 03 April 2011 - 04:07 PM

I have an Epiphone Les Pual Standard that I bought 2 weeks ago. Serial number is 100081512288. It is a Vintage Sunburst with Alnico Classic pickups. How do I know the year it was made?

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View PostPete.R, on 03 April 2011 - 11:56 AM, said:

Welcome here

New Epis don't have letters since mid 2008

how is the serial ?


Its all numbers, is there still a way I can find out where it was made. Just out of curiosity.

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Posted 04 April 2011 - 05:25 AM

0805232603 is the number.

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is this Epiphone legit or fake?

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View PostPete.R, on 25 May 2011 - 11:58 PM, said:

Hi

and welcome here

Do you think it's fake because guitardater don't recognize the serial ?

your guitar was made....

10= year
10= month
23 = factory code, Samick plant Indonessia
01777 = production#

the serial# is legit, the guitar seems legit, too

front-shot would help....


hi :)

I think it fake because the logo...it different what i saw from internet pic...

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Posted 27 May 2011 - 10:46 AM

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 03:49 PM

View Postduane v, on 27 May 2011 - 10:46 AM, said:

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picked up an old sheraton yesterday... serial # 5033129 was told its a japanese sheraton from the 80's any help on confirming this would be great... rectangle paper label on inside is tan with brown splotchs stating kalamazoo..... old style head stock font with backwards 3 -E in epiphone... two screw hole truss rod cover.. any help would be great

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 03:57 PM

View Postglider, on 02 June 2011 - 03:49 PM, said:

picked up an old sheraton yesterday... serial # 5033129 was told its a japanese sheraton from the 80's any help on confirming this would be great... rectangle paper label on inside is tan with brown splotchs stating kalamazoo..... old style head stock font with backwards 3 -E in epiphone... two screw hole truss rod cover.. any help would be great


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Posted 02 June 2011 - 04:38 PM

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thanks,,yes i know i am a complete ocd freak...i'll stop now!!

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Posted 08 June 2011 - 10:09 AM

Hello everyone,

truthBOMB from kalamazoo here needing your assistance.

I was given an epiphone solid body with a serial number on the back that is not registered on an of the sites.

I was wondering if someone could help me get an idea of this model and info on it.

thanks


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#807 User is offline   jerrymac 

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Posted 08 June 2011 - 10:15 AM

View PosttruthBOMB, on 08 June 2011 - 10:09 AM, said:

Hello everyone,

truthBOMB from kalamazoo here needing your assistance.

I was given an epiphone solid body with a serial number on the back that is not registered on an of the sites.

I was wondering if someone could help me get an idea of this model and info on it.

thanks



ET-275, made in Japan by Matsumoku, early to mid-70s, serial # don't mean a thing.

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Posted 08 June 2011 - 01:39 PM

wow! nice find. thanks for the info.

now, do you know anywhere to find a tremolo bar or a knockoff to fit this thread?

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Posted 15 June 2011 - 06:51 PM

Hey Guys,,, how about an Epi LP Classic Ser#105010630 - Cannot find it anywhere. Any help is much appreciated [confused]

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Posted 18 June 2011 - 12:58 PM

Hello guys i bought and epiphone les paul custom.On back of headstock there is no epiphone stamp.I just see made in korea and serial number but guitar dater cant find my guitar by the way my serial is "1006210970" can someone help me?I will add photos soon.

Thanks...

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Posted 18 June 2011 - 01:42 PM

View PostPete.R, on 18 June 2011 - 01:07 PM, said:

Your guitar was made....

10=year
06=month
21=factorycode = Unsung, Korea
0970=production#

That means they make LP Customs still or again at Unsung [thumbup]

Thanks man by the way is it legit or copy?Im new to epiphone and gibson family

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Posted 18 June 2011 - 01:50 PM

View PostPete.R, on 18 June 2011 - 01:46 PM, said:

The serial# is legit,

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pics would help to tell....

Ok gonna post it soon lemme take some photos of it.Thanks alot!

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Posted 18 June 2011 - 02:29 PM

Here is photos of my epiphone les paul guitar what you guys thinks is it legit?By the way i changed my guitar jack socket nut.It isnt gold color now so dont judge it.
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Posted 18 June 2011 - 02:59 PM

View PostPete.R, on 18 June 2011 - 02:40 PM, said:

It only shows one pic of the headstock....
looks good to my eyes [thumbup]

i have uploade much more pictures you can check them^^

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Posted 18 June 2011 - 03:06 PM

View PostPete.R, on 18 June 2011 - 03:03 PM, said:

It is Good !

Thanks man you helped me alot![rolleyes]

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Posted 25 June 2011 - 12:13 PM

hello...this is my first post here on the forum...like many others, my question is in regards to the dating of my Epiphone Firebird re-issue. it is a bolt on neck. the serial number is on a "sticker" on the neck plate. not sure what is underneath on the actual plate as i wanted to see if this number is legit...anyhow, the number is 311571543...thanks for any help that can be offered.

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Posted 25 June 2011 - 12:44 PM

View PostPete.R, on 25 June 2011 - 12:19 PM, said:

It is a 'factory refurbished' or 'second' or 'used'

You can't tell a date out of this serial#

they all start with 311.......

thanks Pete. i have another question...would it be of any value to peel off the sticker to see what is under it...? thanks again

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 08:28 PM

Epiphone Special model (not a Special II), Les Paul-style. Three-screw "Gibson" truss-rod cover, with "Epiphone" and the serial number engraved into the neck plate.
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Number is: 099010530
I'm guessing 1999, but from where?

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Posted 06 July 2011 - 06:06 PM

hey hello everybody im new here by the way im not sure of how they manage their production because i buy yesterday at my local guitars shop a epiphone les paul jr 57'reissue but i read everywhere that there discontinued since 2007(in korina veener colour by the way!!!)
but how i can buy a guitar made in april 2010? they are crazy i think or just confused!!!!

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 06:07 AM

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