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#1 User is offline   modoc_333 

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Posted 04 November 2010 - 11:58 PM

ok, Gibson looks like they are planning a new model for 2011. it is a Jackson Browne signature model. looks to be mostly a Roy Smeck. it looks like a 12 fret AJ with a deeper body. it has a nice pickup system in it (i forget the name, but will add it tomorrow! it's the type that sticks under the bridge plate). English walnut back and sides, Adi top and bracing. AJ bridge, sunburst, and a AJ 'guard. no word on pricing or if it will be limited. thought i would share what i know!
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Posted 05 November 2010 - 03:36 AM

This sounds very interesting.

Wallnut is a great tone wood. I played a Taylor LTD withe wallnut b/s and it was one of the few Taylors that actually had some geunine warmth and personality.

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ok, Gibson looks like they are planning a new model for 2011. it is a Jackson Browne signature model. looks to be mostly a Roy Smeck. it looks like a 12 fret AJ with a deeper body. it has a nice pickup system in it (i forget the name, but will add it tomorrow! it's the type that sticks under the bridge plate). English walnut back and sides, Adi top and bracing. AJ bridge, sunburst, and a AJ 'guard. no word on pricing or if it will be limited. thought i would share what i know!

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 04:11 AM

This is great news. For a cover story I'm writing about Jackson for an upcoming issue of Fretboard Journal, I went on the road with Jackson and band this fall. I played through Jackson's collection of guitars, including his 3 signature model prototypes. His favorite is the walnut version (the other 2 are rosewood and mahogany). A very nice guitar. Jackson uses the Trance Audio Lens pickup, whihc I presume is what Gibson is putting in the signature models.

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 06:02 AM

hmmmn, that's interesting and good news. i had the chance to spend the afternoon with him in the spring. i had my prototype roy smeck JB with me. he had suggested the project was DOA due to a disagreement between Gibson and he as it related to a couple of things. which pick up to use was the biggest issue. glad they worked it out and glad i still have my prototype!

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 07:01 AM

This is good, and very interesting, news.

But, what is the buzz on the advantage/disadvantage between 14 and 12 frets? I must have missed that boat... :huh:

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 07:38 AM

A 12 fret . . . very interesting indeed.

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 08:00 AM

I'm guessing these will be north of 5k.

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 09:30 AM

At that price, I'd rather have the orginal.....

http://www.elderly.c...ms/50U-1682.htm

http://www.acousticg...roy-smeck-stage

Or a used Re-issue

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 09:32 AM

I wish somebody would put out a version of that weird teardrop Vox Bouzouki that David Lindley plays.
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Posted 05 November 2010 - 11:08 AM

View Postjt, on 05 November 2010 - 04:11 AM, said:

This is great news. For a cover story I'm writing about Jackson for an upcoming issue of Fretboard Journal, I went on the road with Jackson and band this fall. I played through Jackson's collection of guitars, including his 3 signature model prototypes. His favorite is the walnut version (the other 2 are rosewood and mahogany). A very nice guitar. Jackson uses the Trance Audio Lens pickup, whihc I presume is what Gibson is putting in the signature models.


You were close to those 3 precious grails (and the master himself), must have been thrilling. Imagine the rose and hog differed the ways those two woods normally do, but how did the walnut stand out ?

In other words : What is the sonic ambition of Gibsons exiting new release. . .

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 12:58 PM

We have a pair of old ones -- a 1935 Radio Grande (RW) and a 1936 Stage Deluxe(HOG). (No walnut of course.) They are very different birds.

The SD is raw and brassy -- in-your-face, sort of like a giant L-00. The RG is deep and rich and powerful -- very like our old AJ.

I must try these. IMO, the early 30s RG make fine flatpicking guitars, but when I talk to others, they seem either to violently agree or violently disagree. I suspect that this is probably because the RG were not built consistently.

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 01:22 PM

View PostE-minor7, on 05 November 2010 - 11:08 AM, said:

You were close to those 3 precious grails (and the master himself), must have been thrilling. Imagine the rose and hog differed the ways those two woods normally do, but how did the walnut stand out ?

In other words : What is the sonic ambition of Gibsons exiting new release. . .


I played them all. And I played his 2 vintage Smecks (and the other 20 guitars he had on the tour). We sat and played them, handing them back and forth. Too much fun.

The Browne signature Smecks are very nice. 1 3/4 nut width, but otherwise pretty much like a converted original. Predictably, the walnut version sounded like a compromise between the warmth of the rosewood and clarity of the mahogany.

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 06:26 PM

I'll keep my fingers crossed that these reissues don't get released only in walnut. Ce

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 06:52 PM

View PostCAMELEYE, on 05 November 2010 - 06:26 PM, said:

I'll keep my fingers crossed that these reissues don't get released only in walnut. Ce


The walnut version sounded (to my ears) and played (for my hands) fantastic.

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 07:48 PM

the Trance Audio Lens IS the pickup they are using... and right now the walnut is the only one mentioned. no idea on pricing. i don't think that has even been finalized internally. i'm excited to play one though! i bet they are great!
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Posted 06 November 2010 - 07:24 AM

Any release date information?

My guess is $5K 'ish

I will start saving now. This is one 'Signature' model I would want...


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Posted 06 November 2010 - 08:59 AM

View Postmodoc_333, on 05 November 2010 - 07:48 PM, said:

the Trance Audio Lens IS the pickup they are using... and right now the walnut is the only one mentioned. no idea on pricing. i don't think that has even been finalized internally. i'm excited to play one though! i bet they are great!


This is very good news. I was able to play Jackson's original Smeck armed with the Trance though his stage rig and it sounds tremendous.

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 10:15 PM

View Postsjl200, on 06 November 2010 - 07:24 AM, said:

Any release date information?

My guess is $5K 'ish

I will start saving now. This is one 'Signature' model I would want...


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release date is "January 2011" so i am guessing NAMM
1932 Gibson L-00 "Penny"
1935 Kalamazoo KG-31
1996 Squier Japan Vista Series Jagmaster
2006 Gibson 1958 Reissue Les Paul
2010 Gibson Advanced Jumbo
2012 Gibson Custom built L-00
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