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Did Gibson ever make an "Ovation" style??

#21 User is offline   ksdaddy 

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Posted 21 July 2011 - 11:11 AM

Looks like a 1115-4 at a quick glance but they likely had a different model # designation for ones with factory pickups.

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Posted 21 July 2011 - 11:12 AM

View Postksdaddy, on 21 July 2011 - 11:11 AM, said:

Looks like a 1115-4 at a quick glance but they likely had a different model # designation for ones with factory pickups.


I'm TOTALLY ignorant about Ovations.

Were some made in the US and others made elsewhere?


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Posted 21 July 2011 - 03:19 PM

Applauses were made in US until about 1983, then went to the Pac Rim. ALL Celebrity models are imported. There was talk of some being made in Mexico and maybe there were a few, but then they stopped answering the phone... the managers went down there and found an empty building. Some models were made in Virginia (?) for a couple years in the 80s or 90s but that experiment is gone.

Over the past few years some formerly US models like the Balladeer shifted to the Orient. As far as I know, ALL 'production models' are imported now. However the CT factory (which also makes Guild acoustics BTW) still make some severely kickass custom models... just like Fender's custom shop or Ren's shop in Bozeman.

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Posted 21 July 2011 - 05:46 PM

Not in to Ovations...But cool info indeed Scott. Great to see ya on the Forum again...Been missing your input/comedy/banter/info/ lately! [smile]
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Posted 22 July 2011 - 07:55 AM

Thanks. Not a lot going on musically with me nowadays. The bench has cobwebs and I play very little. Been spending all my free time with Lynn, everything from going on much needed walks to house shopping. The new roof is on the old house and the new bathroom will be done in a week or so (I hope). All so I can sell it to my daughter for $27,000 over 10 years with no interest (yeah I'm a sap).

Found a 1963 one-owner three bedroom ranch with 3.5 acres and 2 car garage, mucho trees and lilac bushes, with all period correct heavily varnished woodwork, pole lamps, Jetsons style shelves and all..... for an asking price of $79K. Lynn would like to rip it apart and put in recessed lighting and quartz countertops. Sure, hon, with YOUR paycheck. I'm about ready to offer $60K and then just accept whatever counter offer they throw at me. They're in their 80s and want out.

Guys, if you saw us walking together, your first thought would be "Wow, he must have money!"

I don't. Not really anyway.

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 08:33 AM

Here's my 'O'

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Serial number 199xxx

Laminated wood top, Not sure what the neck is mad of.
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Either wood or an extremely reasonable facsimile there of. Possibly Reaction injection molded. But I'm guessing wood.

Any idea as to age KSDADDY?
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Posted 22 July 2011 - 08:39 AM

View Postksdaddy, on 22 July 2011 - 07:55 AM, said:

...All so I can sell it to my daughter for $27,000 over 10 years with no interest (yeah I'm a sap). ...


Farmers do something like this to pass on farms to their kids to avoid inheritance taxes. It's either that or the kids have to sell half the farm to pay the taxes. Better to leave it in the family.
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Posted 22 July 2011 - 09:25 AM

It's hard for me to get excited about plastic guitars. At the same time, I am looking seriously at getting one of the Composite Acoustics "Cargo" carbon fiber travel guitars. In my professional life, I work with big, complex carbon/epoxy structures (America's Cup wing-powered racing catamarans about 26m long, 15m wide, and 40m tall), and that puppy would fit right in, especially finished in high-gloss clear.

That would open some eyes when I took it into the shop, and I can see all the guys wanting to make one for themselves.

You could actually create a highly-resonant carbon guitar, since it could have very stiff, thin resonating surfaces, and would weigh next to nothing. The problem with conventional molded plastics and fiberglass is that if they are thin enough to vibrate, they aren't very stiff, and the vibration probably decays pretty quickly. I suppose that's why they put wood tops on the Ovations, but I imagine they are better amplified than straight acoustic if you want a balanced tone.

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 11:27 AM

What's wrong with Ovations, anyway? We all must admit that they've really "hung in there" over the years!


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Posted 22 July 2011 - 11:27 AM

View PostTommyK, on 22 July 2011 - 08:33 AM, said:

Either wood or an extremely reasonable facsimile there of. Possibly Reaction injection molded. But I'm guessing wood.

Any idea as to age KSDADDY?


All Korean Applauses have real wood necks as far as I know. The US ones were aluminum bolt on and had a black mastic filling any gaps at the joint. A friend was QC where they were made. Laugh if you will but a neck reset with shims and mastic is highly effective and wickedass cheap to do.

As to age, all I can say is '83 or newer.

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 12:53 PM

View PostRASHARU, on 22 July 2011 - 11:27 AM, said:

What's wrong with Ovations, anyway? We all must admit that they've really "hung in there" over the years!



You do understand that Ovation is plugged in, right?

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Posted 23 July 2011 - 10:17 AM

View Postj45nick, on 22 July 2011 - 12:53 PM, said:

You do understand that Ovation is plugged in, right?


KS... okay.... the Ovation is model 1615-4
Serial Number is 081451
The label SAYS it was was manufactured in New Hartford, Conn.

If it'w worth fixing, I'll get it to my luthier to see what he can do with the neck.

It's the only 12-string I own, it's okay now if I only play first postion chords, but if it's more work than it's worth, I'll probably put it up for sale.


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Posted 23 July 2011 - 11:19 AM

Somehow assoiating a guitar with Great White ain't a big selling point with me. Now Melissa Etheridge that would be another matter. If I recall Tony Rice used to hawk Ovations early on in his career.

My question, how the heck to you keep those plastic back geetars from slipping off your lap?
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Posted 23 July 2011 - 11:32 AM

View Postzombywoof, on 23 July 2011 - 11:19 AM, said:

Somehow assoiating a guitar with Great White ain't a big selling point with me. Now Melissa Etheridge that would be another matter. If I recall Tony Rice used to hawk Ovations early on in his career.

My question, how the heck to you keep those plastic back geetars from slipping off your lap?


When I bought mine I was young and slim..... not so much now...... I'm working on the neck now..... if I get it decent, I'll see what keeps it up and let you know.

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Posted 23 July 2011 - 11:33 AM

View PostRASHARU, on 22 July 2011 - 11:27 AM, said:

What's wrong with Ovations, anyway? We all must admit that they've really "hung in there" over the years!



They HAVE to HANG IN THERE!....They can,t sit in your lap! [lol] [lol] [lol] [lol]
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Posted 23 July 2011 - 12:09 PM

View Postksdaddy, on 22 July 2011 - 07:55 AM, said:

Thanks. Not a lot going on musically with me nowadays. The bench has cobwebs and I play very little. Been spending all my free time with Lynn, everything from going on much needed walks to house shopping. The new roof is on the old house and the new bathroom will be done in a week or so (I hope). All so I can sell it to my daughter for $27,000 over 10 years with no interest (yeah I'm a sap).

Found a 1963 one-owner three bedroom ranch with 3.5 acres and 2 car garage, mucho trees and lilac bushes, with all period correct heavily varnished woodwork, pole lamps, Jetsons style shelves and all..... for an asking price of $79K. Lynn would like to rip it apart and put in recessed lighting and quartz countertops. Sure, hon, with YOUR paycheck. I'm about ready to offer $60K and then just accept whatever counter offer they throw at me. They're in their 80s and want out.

Guys, if you saw us walking together, your first thought would be "Wow, he must have money!"

I don't. Not really anyway.

Cool! I hope things come back for you musically. I am glad that you are 'getting on' also... [thumbup] I wish my dad had been a 'sap'; "back in the day" and helped me get a leg up on home ownership... like you are helping your daughter [biggrin] !
For all that matter, I WISH I was in good enuff financial straights to help my 25 year old daughter in that manner. $27K-$79K houses are in short supply in my "neck of the woods" and I think I,m 'underwater' on my own.... [scared]
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Posted 23 July 2011 - 02:04 PM

View Postzombywoof, on 23 July 2011 - 11:19 AM, said:

Somehow assoiating a guitar with Great White ain't a big selling point with me. Now Melissa Etheridge that would be another matter. If I recall Tony Rice used to hawk Ovations early on in his career.

My question, how the heck to you keep those plastic back geetars from slipping off your lap?



Maybe velcro. At least you don't have to worry about damaging the guitar back or sides! [lol]

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 02:14 AM

View PostRASHARU, on 22 July 2011 - 11:27 AM, said:

What's wrong with Ovations, anyway? We all must admit that they've really "hung in there" over the years!



Are those the guys that set the place on fire with pyrotechnics and lots of poor fans died?
If so 2 questions : 1. How could they afford to lose any fans and.....2. How did the Ovations hold up?
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Posted 25 July 2011 - 08:31 AM

View Postksdaddy, on 22 July 2011 - 11:27 AM, said:

All Korean Applauses have real wood necks as far as I know. The US ones were aluminum bolt on and had a black mastic filling any gaps at the joint. A friend was QC where they were made. Laugh if you will but a neck reset with shims and mastic is highly effective and wickedass cheap to do.

As to age, all I can say is '83 or newer.


Thanks KSDADDY. Some paperwork in the glove box seems to indicate it was sold new, somewheres in Australia. I bought it at an 'antique' shop in Illinois.
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