Epiphone Genesis Reissue Review & Demo VIDEO ADDED
Posted 12 February 2012 - 03:04 PM
Sound Clip Here
Similarities to the '79 / '80 Standard, Custom and Deluxe models:
Scale length: 24-3/4"
Overall length: 40-7/8"
Body shape: solid double cutaway carved top
Body dimensions: 13" at lower bout, 8" at waist, 9-3/8" at upper bout, 1-7/8" thick at horn, 2" thick at bridge
Body composition: 3-piece solid mahogany, unchambered
Neck: solid mahogany, set neck with volute and one scarf joint at headstock
Headstock: 3 x 3 elongated Epiphone style
TRC: black 2-layer, 3-hole, engraved Genesis
Finish: gloss poly
Pickup configuration: 2x Humbuckers
Frets: 22, steel (appear to be medium jumbo)
Switch / location: 3-way with black washer / below tailpiece
Control cavity: single rear, same shape and location as vintage
Bridge/tail: Tune-o-matic, fixed tail.
Strap pins: non-locking
Neck width: 1.65" at nut 2.0" at 12th fret
Weight: ~8 lbs (originals were +/-10 lbs)
Neck thickness: +/- 0.85" at the first fret, 0.95" at the 12th fret (originals were 0.9" at the 1st, 1.0" at the 12th)
Top: 2-piece matched flame maple veneer (originals were plain top)
Jack: gold, side mounted w/ 4-screw black plastic jackplate (original was top mounted and notorius for breaking the control cavity)
Pickups: Covered Epiphone ProBuckers 2/3 (originals were uncovered no-name)
Controls: V/V/T/T with push/pull coil taps on volume controls (original layout was V/V/T with seperate coil tap switch, neck pickup only)
Tuners: 14:1 Grover (the originals were no-name Schaller style knock offs)
Serial number: silkscreen 11-digit with Epi Custom Shop logo on back of headstock (original was 7-digit stamped)
Other: The reissue is a combination of the features of all three of the vintage versions:
Single ply front body and neck binding from the Standard.
9 trapezoid inlays from the Deluxe
Gold hardware from the Custom
Stuff I learned about the reissue:
Epiphone ProBucker pickups are patterned after Gibson Burstbuckers (4-wire, nickel/silver base, Elektrisola wire, etc.)
Fits nicely in a standard LP case (not sure if it will come with a case, but there might be a custom Geni case in the works)
Shipping date to dealers is expected to be September 2012.
Available finishes: Black Cherry, Vintage Sunburst
Review / Comments:
Firstly, I am not an Epiphone employee or contractor, so I had no idea what was going on with this guitar or that it was so far along in development, and I had not seen any pictures of the prototype until last week. I saw the same rendering you all saw last year, but this guitar has several key differences, including trap inlays, covered pickups, 4 controls, side-mounted jack and flame top veneer. I don't know if it will be available in trans blue or ebony finish like in the preliminary rendering, Epi1 will have to answer that one. I also don't know what the list or street price will be, but I'd guess similar to some of the top-end Epiphone Les Pauls.
Anyway, when I took the guitar out of the case, I was pretty much speechless. It's a drop-dead gorgeous instrument, and while on paper I thought the changes and new features would take away from its vintage vibe, I am now 100% converted. The gold hardware against the Black Cherry flame top is absolutely stunning. Everything about the guitar just looks right, not too plain and not too gaudy. I was also skeptical that Epiphone could make a reissue with the same level of workmanship as the originals, but other than a tiny bit of red overspray around the binding that's hardly worth mentioning, it's a nearly perfect execution.
I've only had one session with it plugged in so far, but the setup was great, medium low action, no dead frets, no string popping at the nut, and dead-on intonation. I think I can get the action a little lower, but I would not touch the nut, it is beautifully cut and shaped, better than ANY of the other Epis I have (even the ones I have shaped myself), and although I don't think it's bone, it compares with the nut work on my Sadowsky Semi Hollow. The neck is thin, fast and very comfortable, more so than the originals.
The reduced weight is a big plus, I can see gigging this guitar all night without a back brace and the lack of rear body binding makes it comfortable for standing play without a belly cut. The switch and pots feel smooth and sure, so do the tuners. The ProBucker pickups are clear and articulate. I suppose you could change them out, but you'd have to be ridiculously picky about your tone. The coil taps make the reissue a much more tonally versatile guitar than the original, and allow you go from jazz to country to funk to hard rock effortlessly.
I will be posting some photos of the pickup and control cavities when I get around to changing strings. I'll also post a video and maybe a sound clip ASAP.
BTW, huge thanks to Epi1 and the design and manufacturing staffs at Epiphone for bringing this model back with such dedication and attention to detail, it's really nice to know they're listening. Also massive thanks to Jim Walker (wherever you are) for designing the originals. More thanks to Zach Fjestad, editor of the the Blue Book of Electric Guitars for letting me rewrite and correct the entry for Genesis (13th ed.) as well as everyone on this forum that let me rant on for over 3 years about what great guitars these are, and especially those of you who contracted the compulsion and know what I'm talking about. Lastly, thanks to RTH for including the correct descriptions in the Unofficial Epiphone Wiki, and to Fabi for his virtual altar at Epiphone Genesis Lovers.
More info about the originals can be found here: http://en.wikipedia....piphone_Genesis
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Posted 12 February 2012 - 03:18 PM
Posted 12 February 2012 - 03:22 PM
( Perhaps Epi1 would like me to "review" a transblack model for him...... ....)....
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Posted 12 February 2012 - 03:55 PM
Also, is that a bone nut?
My feeling was to leave the switch where it was. It's out of the way, so no unexpected switcheroos during a gig, and it's true to the original. The only downside is if you want to install a Bigsby, you'll have to go back to V/V/T + switch and plug up the hole.
It could be a bone nut, IDK. Whatever it is, it's really nicely done.
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Posted 12 February 2012 - 04:03 PM
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Posted 12 February 2012 - 04:21 PM
I haven't ever had GAS for a Genesis before seeing your pics!
I want one.
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Posted 12 February 2012 - 04:45 PM
(edit) I just had ano ther good look with the photos enlarged...... I may have had a guitargasm.
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Posted 12 February 2012 - 04:48 PM
I could not think of a better person to review the reissue.
I have been following your love affair with these for the past few years.
Fueled some gas of my own for this model.
Looking forward to the inside construction pics and some sound clips.
And it's good to see Epiphone returning to reissuing their own models after last years move to the Gibson reissues.
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Posted 13 February 2012 - 03:08 AM
Awesome news, awesome guitar, awesome review...
Kudos to you Brian, & kudos to Epi1 for having the good sense to send that your way!
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Posted 13 February 2012 - 03:31 AM
A very desirable guitar indeed...
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Posted 13 February 2012 - 06:11 AM
Nice guitar and incredible photos! What camera did you use and what settings, if I may ask.
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Posted 13 February 2012 - 08:26 AM
Nice guitar and incredible photos! What camera did you use and what settings, if I may ask.
Thanks Zep, it's just a $200 Panasonic Lumix DMC-TZ5 on auto white balance. It has a Leica-designed lens, a nice feature for a point-and-shoot camera, but after failing to get decent shots inside I finally had to go outdoors for the good light.
It was freezing and windy as hell, so the shoot didn't last long. In the end, the guitar did all the heavy lifting. In person it's beautifully finished in any light.
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