Gibson Guitar Board: Varitone switch for Cosmetic use - Gibson Guitar Board

Jump to content

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

Varitone switch for Cosmetic use

#1 User is offline   Kylef 

  • Advanced Member
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 43
  • Joined: 12-May 11

Posted 19 February 2012 - 11:24 AM

I have a Gibson ES-355 Custom RI that I love, probably my number 1. However, I have always liked the look of the varitone switch, rather than its uses. I have had a 355 in the past with a varitone, I didnt mind it, but never really used it.

Would it be wise to strip a varitone switch, not wire it in, but just have it sitting there? I have always preferred the look of 355's and 345's with a varitone switch....the more gold on a Gibson Semi the better for me!

Here she is:

Posted Image


Am I wasting my time for something used as cometic use only?

#2 Guest_EastEnder_*

  • Group: Guests

Posted 19 February 2012 - 11:33 AM

Moustache on a Mona Lisa.

And the Bigsby's the beard.

There are aftermarket Varitones available with the numbered plate, although I've seen them only in black and numbered 1-5.

http://bigdguitars.com/varitone.html

You'll cry when you drill the hole.

Respectfully.

#3 User is offline   JimR56 

  • Advanced Member
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 1012
  • Joined: 23-March 09
  • LocationSF Bay Area

Posted 19 February 2012 - 12:10 PM

I've had two 355's over the years- a '65 and a '61. They both had vartitones, which I never liked (neither the function nor the appearance). I used to dream about getting a mono model (a vintage one, long before they were reissued), which were hard to find and cooler looking (imo).

I wouldn't do it. If you're really disappointed every time you take the guitar out that it doesn't have a varitone, maybe you should consider trading for (or selling yours and buying) a model with a varitone.

Probably not practical, but I also wonder if there's any way to attach just a ring and the knob without drilling a hole. A facade, as it were. If there was some way to do that which wouldn't mar the finish underneath (allowing it to be removed and leave no blemish), maybe that would be a solution...?

#4 User is online   Searcy 

  • Advanced Member
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 6695
  • Joined: 21-March 10
  • LocationNashville

Posted 19 February 2012 - 02:06 PM

No no no no no no no no no no no no no no [scared]

No fake varitone switches!

NO!

#5 User is offline   charlie brown 

  • Advanced Member
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 16072
  • Joined: 16-June 08

Posted 19 February 2012 - 02:25 PM

Well, I'm one of those folks, that likes the Varitone! So, IF I were in that situation,
I'd just add a functioning Varitone, and USE it! Otherwise, why bother??? [confused]

CB

#6 User is offline   Notes_Norton 

  • Advanced Member
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 9749
  • Joined: 09-January 08

Posted 19 February 2012 - 04:12 PM

I'd wire it in. It's not difficult to do, and even if you only use it once in a while, it will give you something other than looks.

I put a Varitone on my Faux-LP with P90s and used it on a few songs. It didn't work for everything, but what it worked for it worked well.

But then, I'm certainly not against bling for bling's sake. Why not?


Insights and incites by Notes

♫ Bob "Notes" Norton ♫

Owner, Norton Music ► www.nortonmusic.com
Add-on styles for Band-in-a-Box and Microsoft SongSmith

The Sophisticats ► www.s-cats.com


#7 User is offline   JellyWheat 

  • Ancient Godlike Member
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 777
  • Joined: 22-October 11
  • LocationPointe-au-Pic, Canada

Posted 19 February 2012 - 05:42 PM

View PostKylef, on 19 February 2012 - 11:24 AM, said:


Would it be wise to strip a varitone switch, not wire it in, but just have it sitting there? I have always preferred the look of 355's and 345's with a varitone switch....the more gold on a Gibson Semi the better for me!

Am I wasting my time for something used as cometic use only?


[-( I'm gonna say this once, and only once... NO !!! for chrissakes! [Now go to your room and learn to play that thang!] #-o

J/W
](*,)
"If I'da felt this way buffore, I wouldn'a ett!"
Grandma JellyWheat, circa 1894

#8 User is offline   Sunburst PB 

  • Advanced Member
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 182
  • Joined: 23-September 11

Posted 22 February 2012 - 02:56 PM

Just say NO.
2011 Gibson Custom Shop ES-355
2002 Blueridge BR-183
1999 Fender Hot Rodded Precision Bass
1998 Fender Telecaster
2013 Epiphone DR-212
2012 Ohana CK-35-SN Soprano Ukulele

2000 Behringer BXL450 Bass Combo
1965 Fender Deluxe Reverb RI

#9 User is offline   sok66 

  • Advanced Member
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 439
  • Joined: 09-January 09

Posted 24 February 2012 - 09:34 PM

View PostSunburst PB, on 22 February 2012 - 02:56 PM, said:

Just say NO.


Ditto, NO Varitone! I've never found a single useful tone out of them, could never figure how it got out of the development lab back in the 50s.

BTW, that 355 is SWEET!

#10 Guest_EastEnder_*

  • Group: Guests

Posted 24 February 2012 - 09:38 PM

View Postsok66, on 24 February 2012 - 09:34 PM, said:

...could never figure how i got out of the development lab back in the 50s.


Bars on the windows?

Sorry couldn't resist.

#11 User is offline   brundaddy 

  • Advanced Member
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 2392
  • Joined: 14-October 08

Posted 25 February 2012 - 11:48 PM

If you think it would look cool ... DO IT. Get as freaky and beastly as you wanna be. Hell, just glue one on and see if you like it.

#12 User is offline   badbluesplayer 

  • ZIPPER CLUBBER
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 3856
  • Joined: 14-April 08
  • LocationJonesborough, TN

Posted 26 February 2012 - 07:04 AM

It WILL devalue the guitar. Maybe only slightly.
_________________________________
Posted Image

#13 User is offline   Notes_Norton 

  • Advanced Member
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 9749
  • Joined: 09-January 08

Posted 26 February 2012 - 02:41 PM

Devaluing an instrument is in the eyes of the owner.

I've never worried about it myself. I use my instruments, and play them until they are worn. I have only one collectible, and it got that way by lasting a long time without wearing out.

In the saxophone world, there is a thing about original lacquer (the lacquer doesn't affect the sound enough to hear). I've always relacquered my horns when they got grungy looking. I could care less. By the time I trade them in they are pretty worn out anyway.

On the other hand, if I were to buy an instrument for an investment, instead of to perform with, I'd probably keep it in a case in a humidity controlled room and try to keep it in pristine condition. But IMHO that would be as big of a sin as turning a saxophone into a lamp. Musical instruments are made to make music.

But that's just me, YMMV


Insights and incites by Notes

♫ Bob "Notes" Norton ♫

Owner, Norton Music ► www.nortonmusic.com
Add-on styles for Band-in-a-Box and Microsoft SongSmith

The Sophisticats ► www.s-cats.com


#14 User is offline   ES345 

  • Advanced Member
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 155
  • Joined: 18-January 08

Posted 10 March 2012 - 01:12 AM

I have had my 345 since i bought in new in '62, I use the varitone, but I play through two amps, so I am a supporter of the varitone, but, I would advise againt adding one for cosmetic purposes, if you aren't going to wire it up, forget about it you will add more wt to the top, not improve your tone, probably lessen the top vibration etc, i think it is a bad idea.
peace

#15 User is offline   brundaddy 

  • Advanced Member
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 2392
  • Joined: 14-October 08

Posted 10 March 2012 - 05:18 PM

I agree with Norton, and I'll add that it's YOUR guitar, and YOUR life. So don't even wonder about anyone's opinion but YOURS. Do it if you want to, or don't do it if YOU don't want to.

#16 User is offline   Pin 

  • Advanced Member
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 923
  • Joined: 25-September 11
  • LocationLondon

Posted 11 March 2012 - 02:02 PM

View Postcharlie brown, on 19 February 2012 - 02:25 PM, said:

Well, I'm one of those folks, that likes the Varitone! So, IF I were in that situation,
I'd just add a functioning Varitone, and USE it! Otherwise, why bother??? [confused]

CB


Yep, varitone is great and if you have one it should work.
GUITARS: Gibson Les Paul 25 / 50; Gibson ES345 1959 Reissue; Yamaha AE12; Yamaha SG2000: Fender "Roland Ready" Strat; Epiphone ES345 "Special"; Epiphone Les Paul '56; Epiphone Les Paul Tribute Plus; Epiphone G400; Cimar Classical.
AMPS & EFFECTS: Various effects. Fav amps - Bugera V5 RAT tri-rec combo and Mesa Maverick 1 x 12.

#17 User is offline   kaicho8888 

  • Advanced Member
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 420
  • Joined: 22-January 08
  • LocationCity of Rock'n Roll San Francisco

Posted 13 March 2012 - 01:02 PM

Why not get another one with the varitone?
Old Rockers never die; we just fade away! 会長

#18 User is offline   Kylef 

  • Advanced Member
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 43
  • Joined: 12-May 11

Posted 10 April 2012 - 04:48 PM

The guitar is my pride and joy, I am actually thinking of going down the route of putting one in AND wiring it up. I just cant find somewhere that will, or even sell me one. Found a varitone switch, but cant get the gold ring.

Anyone?

Share this topic:


Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

1 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users