1972 Les Paul Standard
Posted 26 February 2012 - 08:25 AM
Posted 26 February 2012 - 08:43 AM
As for whether the guitar is legit, we need better pictures in order to spot any potential fakes.
Posted 26 February 2012 - 09:44 AM
The 1XX,XXX serial numbers were used in 70 - 74, so the number itself is of no use in dating this instrument, although these possible years do predate the "production" model of 1975. The potentiometer codes would help narrow down an "era" of manufacture.
I have always been curious about the existence (or not) of these "58's", for I own one of the first 25 production model Standards of 1975.
So, according to Tom Wheeler's book, the short answer to your question is YES, it could be a 1972 Standard.
Posted 26 February 2012 - 01:43 PM
Posted 04 March 2012 - 06:26 AM
Posted 04 March 2012 - 10:26 AM
Im still not sure..
Its the thing about people on the net showing their serial numbers.. all the guy had to do was find a similar Gibson on Ebay or where ever and send that to Gibson to get an official reply.. Also you cant even see the serial number on the back (but that could just be a dodgey picture)...
Anyone else know more? But yeah if its real thats good swap
Posted 04 March 2012 - 10:58 AM
The pot dates can give a date before which the guitar couldn't have been built. If you Gibson is saying 1975, the pot dates likely prevent an earlier guess. The Gibson logo looks a bit off compared to the last couple decades, just like other ones of that period. Another question is - does this LP have a pancake body (~1970 to early 1976)?
Looking at completed listings on fleaBay - no 1975; but three 1976 - two selling at just under $2000, and one for $3000. So yes, looks like value wise, you'd have the better end. That's if the LP is stable holding tune, in good condition and plays nice.
Posted 05 March 2012 - 06:23 AM
The headstock is fine for a 'Norlin-era' LP. These pegheads are considerably wider than anything seen since (about) the start of the eighties - which is why the 'open book' looks a bit odd. Imagine the head with about a quarter-of-an-inch removed from either side and the proportions start to look 'right'.
On the Gibson logo the 'b' and the 'o' are both closed. The 'Standard' script on the TRC is the correct, older, style. AFAIK when the full-size H/B'd Standard was re-introduced it was usually in TSB finish. It all looks good to me. Whether it's worth the ask is completely up to you. If it plays really well and you prefer it to what you are prepared to swap for it then you've answered your own question.
Posted 05 March 2012 - 08:48 AM
The Les Paul was not catalogued as a standard but available as a Les Paul Deluxe with optional full size humbuckers, standard on truss rod cover. 1972-76
Posted 05 March 2012 - 12:21 PM
I strongly disagree with this statement. I guess the key word above is "cataloged". The "Deluxe", by definition, has mini-humbuckers. The moment the factory builds this chassis with full size humbuckers it becomes a "Standard". It doesn't matter how it was "cataloged", or what the serial number decal says, what differentiates the two models IS the pickups.
Posted 07 May 2013 - 08:21 AM
Guitar is as good as any Lester I've owned and I've owned a bunch from 1952 to 2003...