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SG '61 Reissue Satin('57 Classic Pickups)

#1 User is offline   tombir 

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 07:21 AM

Hey guys!

I am thinking about getting a SG '61 Reissue and have a question about the pickups it comes with. I know the SG comes with two '57 Classic (Alnico II) Humbuckers - BUT: are they the standard-, OR the 4-conductor-version (coil splitting)? I know you can't split the coils in the stock-version of the guitar, but it would be an rather easy modification (if the are the 4-conductor ones).

Thanks!

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 07:58 AM

The factory standard versions have a 2 conductor wiring. Only the aftermarket versions have 4 conductors:

IM57R4P-DB / 57 Classic 4-Conductor, Dbl Black

IM57R4P-ZB / 57 Classic 4-Conductor, Zebra

IM57R4P-NZ / 57 Classic Nickel, 4 Conductor, Potted




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Posted 29 March 2012 - 12:07 PM

I wanted a brown one bad, until I saw one in Guitar Center and realized it had a baked maple board. Killed it for me :(

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 04:49 PM

As long as it's a darker version, of the "baked maple," I don't have a problem.
My "Classic Custom," Gold Top, has the darker version, and it's great!
If, on the other hand, it's one of those early, very (too) light versions, then...no thanks!
My dealer is getting (at least) one, in...in "Cherry." I'm going to check that out,
for sure. [thumbup]

CB

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 10:27 PM

View Postcharlie brown, on 29 March 2012 - 04:49 PM, said:

As long as it's a darker version, of the "baked maple," I don't have a problem.
My "Classic Custom," Gold Top, has the darker version, and it's great!
If, on the other hand, it's one of those early, very (too) light versions, then...no thanks!
My dealer is getting (at least) one, in...in "Cherry." I'm going to check that out,
for sure. [thumbup]

CB

I have the new SG Junior and it's darker, it also took oiling well and darkened more. However, it's a bargain priced guitar and easier to accept. The 61RI, even the satin one, is close to two grand and in that price range I'm not buying baked maple. Id rather buy a cheap used player and refinish it.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 11:40 PM

View PostTattooedCarrot, on 29 March 2012 - 10:27 PM, said:

I have the new SG Junior and it's darker, it also took oiling well and darkened more. However, it's a bargain priced guitar and easier to accept. The 61RI, even the satin one, is close to two grand and in that price range I'm not buying baked maple. Id rather buy a cheap used player and refinish it.


Hey, it's (obviously) your call. [thumbup]

CB

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 07:44 PM

Posted this, in the "Tribute" SG thread. But, just in case,
I'll post it here, as well. Had a chance to look at a new
"Satin Finish" '61 SG reissue, today, at my dealer's. Very
nice guitar, overall...finish, construction, neck, etc.
HOWEVER, in the case of the one I saw, the "beveling," was no
where near, what a '61 should be like! Not even close to the
photos, on the Gibson web site! WUWT? This one, looked more
like a USA "Standard, in a matte finish, and the small pick
guard, instead of the deep, and wide beveling, of the '61-64
versions. Especially in the horns area. ???? But, that was
(really) the only thing that was a disappointment! Otherwise,
I liked the feel of the neck, and the sheen, of the finish,
quite a lot.

I know, they've always varied, a bit, in the horn tapers, and
bevels. But, this one was just too far removed, from "right," IMHO!
So, I guess I'll wait, until they get another one in, with correct
beveling. [unsure] :unsure:

CB

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 06:53 PM

View Postcharlie brown, on 06 April 2012 - 07:44 PM, said:

Posted this, in the "Tribute" SG thread. But, just in case,
I'll post it here, as well. Had a chance to look at a new
"Satin Finish" '61 SG reissue, today, at my dealer's. Very
nice guitar, overall...finish, construction, neck, etc.
HOWEVER, in the case of the one I saw, the "beveling," was no
where near, what a '61 should be like! Not even close to the
photos, on the Gibson web site! WUWT? This one, looked more
like a USA "Standard, in a matte finish, and the small pick
guard, instead of the deep, and wide beveling, of the '61-64
versions. Especially in the horns area. ???? But, that was
(really) the only thing that was a disappointment! Otherwise,
I liked the feel of the neck, and the sheen, of the finish,
quite a lot.

I know, they've always varied, a bit, in the horn tapers, and
bevels. But, this one was just too far removed, from "right," IMHO!
So, I guess I'll wait, until they get another one in, with correct
beveling. [unsure] :unsure:

CB

Someone else said it was more like a regular faded model that had some 61RI features and a $999 guitar rather than a 61RI with a satin finish at $1599. I have to agree.

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 11:00 PM

TattooedCarrot:

Do you have or have you tried a SG Special Faded? Wonderful, inexpensive guitars! I have one, it's my #1 and it's every bit the SG that the 61RI is, if not moreso. The pickups aren't exactly what I call versatile (they certainly struggle with high gain) but they have a crisp, biting tone on a clean setting and you can boost it into low-gain electric blues/classic rock territory easily, if that's what you're looking for. While I'm currently in the market for an Ibanez S770PB (with which I can handle clean, Stratty stuff for my ska project and crank up the gain for my metal project,) I'll never let go of my SG and I think that, for what they cost and what you get from them, they're great buys. The neck on mine, in particular, is just a delight to play--although I've heard that they're not all the same--but I'd say they're great to check out nonetheless. You can buy used on them really cheaply, and if you decide you don't love it, you're not out several thousand bucks, like you'd be on the 61RI! And if you don't like the finish...well, you could always get a refin, I guess? [biggrin]

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 11:55 PM

View Postcharlie brown, on 06 April 2012 - 07:44 PM, said:

Posted this, in the "Tribute" SG thread. But, just in case,
I'll post it here, as well. Had a chance to look at a new
"Satin Finish" '61 SG reissue, today, at my dealer's. Very
nice guitar, overall...finish, construction, neck, etc.
HOWEVER, in the case of the one I saw, the "beveling," was no
where near, what a '61 should be like! Not even close to the
photos, on the Gibson web site! WUWT? This one, looked more
like a USA "Standard, in a matte finish, and the small pick
guard, instead of the deep, and wide beveling, of the '61-64
versions. Especially in the horns area. ???? But, that was
(really) the only thing that was a disappointment! Otherwise,
I liked the feel of the neck, and the sheen, of the finish,
quite a lot.

I know, they've always varied, a bit, in the horn tapers, and
bevels. But, this one was just too far removed, from "right," IMHO!
So, I guess I'll wait, until they get another one in, with correct
beveling. [unsure] :unsure:

CB


I have to agree. I looked one over and found it was nothing like my '02/03 61 RI SG that was stolen from me in 2004 and much more like the standard/special. Then again, I haven't seen that guitar that was stolen for 8 years now.
Have cut back on my equipment do to circumstance. Just my #1 Gibson Les Paul Standard just now. No amps, no pedals.

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