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MIDI Percussion Controllers and Recording Recommendations?

#1 User is offline   Dougefresh91 

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 12:53 PM

So I've been messing with EZdrummer in Garageband and ProTools and I'm thinking it would be easier/quicker to just tap out a beat and then tweak it. Since I'm not a drummer I'm looking for something smallish. Anyone have any experience with any of these? Percussion Controllers.

I'm interested in the Korg, the Akai and possibly this Alesis. Though I'm not sure on that last one, as I want to be up and running immediately, and this thing looks like I'd need to use sticks. I'm just not sure I'm fast enough to play what I have in mind. Maybe play at 1/2 speed and then speed it up... idk. I would like to learn the drums someday, but right now I just want to make quick MIDI beats for my songs. I've read mixed reviews on all three of these.

(This has probably been asked before, but I haven't searched yet, as this wasn't the main reason I was posting.) My amp can plug via USB to the computer, but I haven't tried it yet, as I'm assuming it's going to force me to use some craptastic digital amp(I will confirm this tonight). So, to record to the computer what would be a decent inexpensive mic? Do I want a USB mic? If I got a regular mic I'm not sure what I'd need to get it hooked into my computer. I'm hoping I don't need a noise gate, though I suspect I will. But for now I'd like to skip that unless there's some magical all-in-one device I don't know about.

I'm not looking for a pro recording here and I don't want to spend a fortune, but clarity would certainly be nice. What do youz guyz think?

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 01:02 PM

THESE work great, they are an OEM version of the Behringer UCG-102, instead of using the cheap supplied software I downloaded the Behringer software, it works a treat. Can't help with the drums sorry.
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 01:26 PM

Thanks for the recommendation, Rastus. The problem with that is it bypasses my amp and pedals forcing me to use software. I just don't find it enjoyable tweaking/playing with amp settings, nor have I found any digital effects that I actually like. Plus I've spent many many many hours getting my amp sounding the way I want it; abandoning that is not an option. Unless you mean that thing works with a mic, then it would be different. [thumbup] Appreciate the suggestions.

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 04:37 PM

I have the Alesis Performance Pad Pro and I absolutely love the built-in patterns and it's not too hard to figure out for a dumbarse like me. And it sounds glorious, way better than the Roland R8 I had years ago, and the Zoom RT-233 I have now. It has kick and snare input triggers, stereo out, stereo through, and MIDI out. The only major complaint is that it doesn't have any way to start it via a footswitch which is incredibly stoopit. You have to start it by pressing "Start", or hitting a pad.
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 08:34 PM

Just some basic thoughts to add; Nothing deep or uber helpful; I haen't used any of the mentioned products Doug, but, the Akai unit

would be my choice of the three....I've also seen the Korg unit for sale at $29.00........Your Mustang III has the built in USB, and the

Fender "software".....I couldn't find easy access to viewing the software online (darn).....The built in USB and with the "Fender software"

is perhaps a good place to start, by getting to understand it; You like the Mustang's reverb and delay....As you mentioned, you can run

pedals in front of the amp to get your sound, add the reverb and/or delay via the built in effects, and get a decent amp/guitar sound direct...

To "mike" your amp, you'll need an interface ($80.00 to $2000.00 on up), and a mike to plug into the interface...I don't like any of the so-called

USB Mikes.....There's tons of decent dynamic mikes that work well for a good price, ie, Sure SM 57, among others....Dang, for miking amps and

cabinets, the sky's the limit for mike costs, ie, Royer Ribbon mikes, lg and sm condensor mikes, etc etc.....
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Posted 06 April 2012 - 11:56 AM

Thanks, guys. I'm gonna go to the store and see what they have (if any) and hopefully just pick one out. The Alesis looks like it'd be the most fun (you use sticks with that I assume?), but also like it might have the steepest learning curve. The kind of music I'm attempting to make all use pretty fast drum beats, so I'm afraid I might be limited by my lack of drumming experience. But yeah, maybe I'll feel different if I get to try it out.

I haven't tried out the USB feature on the Mustang yet. I did setup all the software, which was very very aggravating due to the lack of good directions, so it should be good to go. If you think I'll get my actual amp sound by doing this, then it will certainly be worth a try. The one thing I did notice that Fender mentions is that the amp can only output to the computer, and not receive input. So I'm assuming I'll have to either use my computer speakers or just play it without amp sound, which isn't really too bad an option. If that fails it's onto the microphone option.

These MIDI's are super fun to mess with. I never even knew what they were until last week. I create some animations for my job, and the boss mentioned they want music in them. So, I created a couple tracks in GarageBand that sync up to the animation. Pretty amusing, I have to say. [thumbup] I think I'm officially the Jack of All Trades, Master of None.

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 06:14 PM

Good luck in you quest to get things down, please keep us informed on your progress, I'm interested to hear how the usb recording goes and what drum machine you finally decide on.
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