J-200 Koa Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Looks a little off: http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-Gibson-J-45-acoustic-guitar-/150792404043?pt=Guitar&hash=item231bed7c4b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchie69 Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Terrible fake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dchristo Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Been paying attention to these suspicious ebay listings just so I can know what to look for in event I get another bad case of GAS...but what is it on this one that looks suspicious? the face of the headstock should be black, the back dont look like any mahogany that Ive ever seen, the rosette is wrong, the orange label should be round, and that is just just starters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-200 Koa Posted April 5, 2012 Author Share Posted April 5, 2012 Been paying attention to these suspicious ebay listings just so I can know what to look for in event I get another bad case of GAS...but what is it on this one that looks suspicious? Shape of the headstock is a dead giveaway. The interior label is all wrong. The most obvious is the body shape: looks like a square shoulder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfox14 Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Definitely a fake. I wonder if Gibson ever goes after people like this on eBay. I smell lawsuit. I reported it to the seller and to eBay too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKahune Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 . Ouch! That headstock is so bad it hurts. . :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motherofpearl Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Just relisted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKahune Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Educate me here fellas. What is it about the "shape" of the headstock that is the tell. ..... The shape is too hard to get on that angle. It's the script logo - wrong slant and wrong placement, the bottom of the G should extend close to the D turner. The crown or thistle should in recent models should be starting at some point between the A and B tuners. The front of the headstock should have a black overlay (traditionally holly wood but who knows these days). Also, the back of the headstock should have "wings" - pieces of extra wood glued to the side edges of the headstock to bring it to proper width, on both Gibson acoustics and electrics (except narrow headstocks like on the Melody Maker). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdd707 Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Yeah, but the guy is throwing in a free set of strings and an unopened capo! How could one resist such a deal? Who makes all the fakes we see on ebay? They have to go to some trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchie69 Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 1333644109[/url]' post='1171132']Yeah, but the guy is throwing in a free set of strings and an unopened capo! How could one resist such a deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyK Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 For 99¢, who can go wrong. Maybe it's my eyes, but I think I see wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchie69 Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 The auction has arrived at 760 dollars...A real scam!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dchristo Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 they look pretty good, I wonder what they sound like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motherofpearl Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Wonder where they get these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissouriPicker Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Wow, some of you guys are darn good at picking this stuff up. To me it looks like a J45 is supposed to look. However, to my mind, the price is a red flag. If it looks too good to be true, then it probably is......Good info in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spot Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 If that back is Mahogany my balls are made of GOLD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPDEN Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 1333632819[/url]' post='1170915']Definitely a fake. I wonder if Gibson ever goes after people like this on eBay. I smell lawsuit. I reported it to the seller and to eBay too. Still up there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchie69 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 It's a scandal to sell a Gibson fake at that price! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spot Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Anyone going to file a complaint with EBAY? Then never do anything..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jherr5150 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 I saw this on ebay and came here to see if anyone mentioned it. Aside from the fake headstock, let's not forget the square shoulder as opposed to slope shoulder. The guitar also has a white nut as opposed to a black graphite nut as found on the current standard. That's not a mahogany back either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfox14 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Anyone going to file a complaint with EBAY? Then never do anything..... I notified eBay of the auction, but apparently they aren't going to do anything. Bids over $1500 now - somebody is going to get suckered big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobby b Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 I notified eBay of the auction, but apparently they aren't going to do anything. Bids over $1500 now - somebody is going to get suckered big time. Apparently it now has a rosewood neck!?! I sent the seller a question, do the 'questions' to the seller eventually show up on the listing page too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojorule Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Wings or no wings, the edges of the headstock are far too straight to pass for genuine Gibson (the Songwriters without the black veneer don't look suspicious, precisely because they have the right amount of flare on the edge). In some photos, from some angles, especially when the front is in view, the square shoulders are not so obvious, but taken from behind, they stand out like the shoulder pads on The Refrigerator. http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=the+refrigerator+william+perry&hl=hu&biw=1366&bih=622&tbm=isch&tbnid=fMPQukT7VOi9aM:&imgrefurl=http://www.memorialdaysports.com/2011/04/72-william-refrigerator-perry.html&docid=au_LNDwK9ONoMM&imgurl=http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-APtgKyd88R0/TZqKaDQMPsI/AAAAAAAAAF0/C4ZOSyMGSRU/s1600/william_perry.jpg&w=468&h=533&ei=K2N_T--WAYLgtQbO25nYBA&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=243&vpy=180&dur=1142&hovh=240&hovw=210&tx=114&ty=118&sig=115577147634420267165&page=2&tbnh=146&tbnw=138&start=24&ndsp=28&ved=1t:429,r:22,s:24,i:167 Those shoulders are as round as the back is Honduran and mahogany. But you chaps have all missed the real giveaway sign: the scratchguard is in the 'correct' position, unlike those on genuine Bozeman Gibsons. Given the regular complaints on this forum about said placement, I'm surprised nobody has spotted this 'advantage' yet. Or put in a bid on anything so aesthetically pleasing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motherofpearl Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Well it must be worth something it has passed my wm45 price wise on eBay lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchie69 Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 Have you seen the neck heel shape? It's a martin style...a very poor fake, there's nothing in the right place, nothing that can generate a doubt that this is a TRUE FAKE J-45. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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