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my tribute to Jim Marshall R.I.P

#21 User is offline   dem00n 

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 03:56 PM

View Postkaleb, on 09 April 2012 - 03:41 PM, said:

Exactly, and learn lots of riffs. (AC/DC, KISS, Zeppelin, and Deep Purple riffs should suit you well. Hendrix and Van Halen are the next "step"). Don't just focus on playing with feeling (although that is important) or all the smoke n' mirrors stuff (like playing with your teeth), but learn riffs and rhythm guitar parts (which will improve your timing by a ton). Lock into the groove of the music. Use your imagination and pretend there is a rhythm section playing behind you. Play along with records. And don't bother reading tabs. And despite what some people I know say and think (or want me to believe!), tablature is not even remotely the same thing as written music. Knowing how to read music is awesome. But if you have to tab out Highway To Hell then something is wrong..... Start improvising solos when you A. Grasp the art of riffs and rhythm guitar, B. Know your basic scales (knowing the minor and first position pentatonic scales is a must), and C. Have your timing down. In all earnest, I think all guitar players, even if they are dedicated to soloing, are rhythm guitar players at heart.

I don't really agree on learning other peoples riff's. Maybe a song or two. Mostly because the fact that we over play these riffs so much that everytime we try to make our own riffs we use those riffs as a base and then we create that sound of that band/guitarist. Not truly your sound, but someone elses. Everything else you say it right.
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Posted 09 April 2012 - 04:15 PM

View PostAlanH, on 09 April 2012 - 02:47 PM, said:

Point taken Duane but the OP continually starts these threads. If someone portrays themselves in a certain way then some people will retort with a witty one-liner at their expense. If you think these threads (and the OP) are for real then, rather than censor certain responses, there is always the option of moving them over to the "Skills House" sub forum.


Good god!! STOP opening his post if they are what you claim. It makes absolutely no sense for you or anybody else like you to click on the thread let alone make stupid remarks. I'm sorry to say this but your post is more obnoxious than the "OP".

Stop picking on kids. If you need to bully someone, have at me. I can give you a run for your money.
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Posted 09 April 2012 - 04:29 PM

View PostBig Bill, on 09 April 2012 - 04:15 PM, said:

Good god!! STOP opening his post if they are what you claim. It makes absolutely no sense for you or anybody else like you to click on the thread let alone make stupid remarks. I'm sorry to say this but your post is more obnoxious than the "OP".

Stop picking on kids. If you need to bully someone, have at me. I can give you a run for your money.



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Posted 09 April 2012 - 04:31 PM

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 04:39 PM

View PostCruznolfart, on 09 April 2012 - 04:29 PM, said:

Yer ooglee an yer mama dresses you funny! [lol]


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Posted 09 April 2012 - 04:53 PM

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 05:42 PM

View Postdem00n, on 09 April 2012 - 03:56 PM, said:

I don't really agree on learning other peoples riff's. Maybe a song or two. Mostly because the fact that we over play these riffs so much that everytime we try to make our own riffs we use those riffs as a base and then we create that sound of that band/guitarist. Not truly your sound, but someone elses. Everything else you say it right.


I completely agree. Nothing organic comes from copying and pasting anything. Learning structured scales and understanding how music works is the key, and everything after that should come from an individuals creativity.
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Posted 09 April 2012 - 06:05 PM

I for one am glad to see that there are some youths out there listening to the greats and even better playing an instrument! I was unlucky like this young man and grew up too late. Being born in 75 meant my first exposure to popular music was glam hair type stuff. Somehow I found my way as he has! Kudos to you kid and keep it up! BTW a Strat is far more versatile than an SG!

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 06:26 PM

When i was just learning to play,just a lil older then fenderguy,i was in my towns music store,butchering to the best of my ability 'sultans of swing' and this guy walked up and asked what i was playing,he asked to see the guitar,he played the riff the right way at normal speed and i stood there w/ open jaw as he handed me the guitar back.Later,i learned his name was Stephen Bennett,he has won a flatpicking champion in his life as well as being a very accomplished harpguitarist. http://harpguitar.com/ He could have very easily went off and giggled about my inexperience,but he took the time to show me how it was played.He didnt give me a lesson,but his kindness and talent left a mark on me.It takes about the same amount of energy to encourage or inspire someone as it does to bash them,i remember more accomplished guitarists takin the time to show me a riff or scale,and every chance i get to pay it fwd,ill take a minute to correct a missed riff or chord progression.You never know who you may influence or encourage with just the simplest compliment or critique,especially beginner level players.We all played like crap at some point.
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Posted 09 April 2012 - 06:28 PM

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" It occured to me by intuition, and music was the driving force behind that intuition. My discovery was the result of musical perception." Einstein on his theory of relativity.
" Music is a higher relevation than all wisdom and philosophy. Music is the electrical soil in which the spirit lives, thinks and invents." Ludwig von Beethoven
" There's nothing remarkable about it. All one has to do is hit the right keys at the right time and the instrument plays itself.' Johann Sebastian Bach
" Playing scales is like a boxer skipping rope or a punching bag. It's not the thing itself; it's preparatory to the activity." Barney Kessel
" After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music." Aldous Hoxley
" There's a fine line between genius and insanity. I have crossed this line." Pianist Oscar Lavant
" Music came before language; musical grunts became words." Damian (copyright)
" I know how to get there, all I've got to do is keep playing." Jimmy Page
" Without music, life would be a mistake." Friedrich Nietzsche
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Posted 09 April 2012 - 06:46 PM

View PostSvet, on 09 April 2012 - 06:05 PM, said:

I for one am glad to see that there are some youths out there listening to the greats and even better playing an instrument! I was unlucky like this young man and grew up too late. Being born in 75 meant my first exposure to popular music was glam hair type stuff. Somehow I found my way as he has! Kudos to you kid and keep it up! BTW a Strat is far more versatile than an SG!



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Posted 09 April 2012 - 08:24 PM

yea, thats why i chose a strat, i might get a Les Paul later on in life :)
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Posted 09 April 2012 - 08:33 PM

View PostFenderGuy1, on 09 April 2012 - 08:24 PM, said:

yea, thats why i chose a strat, i might get a Les Paul later on in life :)



Get an SG with p-90's, then you'll have the best of all worlds.Les Pauls are awesome guitars but I think with your style the thin body of the Sg with single coils ( similar fender sound ) will suite you much better...and if you start banging out some hendrix sounds but on an SG, you'll be on your way to being your own style

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 10:11 PM

View PostFenderGuy1, on 09 April 2012 - 08:24 PM, said:

yea, thats why i chose a strat, i might get a Les Paul later on in life :)


And I may get a fender strat later on in my life............... [biggrin]
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Posted 09 April 2012 - 10:20 PM

View PostBig Bill, on 09 April 2012 - 04:15 PM, said:

Good god!! STOP opening his post if they are what you claim. It makes absolutely no sense for you or anybody else like you to click on the thread let alone make stupid remarks. I'm sorry to say this but your post is more obnoxious than the "OP".

Stop picking on kids. If you need to bully someone, have at me. I can give you a run for your money.


What Big Bill said.

I wore my Marshall Amplification t shirt this weekend. I was stopped by 5 people in town, some of whom you would expect others not. One thing in common - respect for the man that changed lives and destroyed a few eardrums along the way.
Fender guy, you have a guitar playing future ahead. Keep on chooglin.

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