NGD 1965 Country Western Model A dream come true
Posted 13 October 2012 - 01:53 AM
Today,forty-seven years after first seeing one,I bought a 1965 "Country Western Model" at Dave's Guitar Shop,in La Crosse, Wisconsin. I don't know why it took me so long to fulfill this dream, (over the years I've taught guitar and played professionally), but I guess I was just never offered one to buy exactly like the one that had haunted me in that window... When, during a telephone conversation we were having on another topic (regarding a Gibson Custom Shop "'59 Les Paul Standard" that I ordered), Dave mentioned having just gotten this guitar in,I had him send me a picture, and then, I ended up driving seven hours (round trip) tonight to make the deal for it.
Anyway, now I'm looking for info on the Gibson "Country Western Model". I realize that even though I've wanted one forever, I know very little about the model, its history, its production numbers, its reputation....etc. When I was young, it seemed really fancy,what with the parallelogram inlays, the bound fretboard, the wild pickguard, the MOP headstock inlay and logo, and the adjustable bridge, but for all the lusting after it that I did when I was sixteen, I really know next to nothing about its place in the market, its origin, its popularity, its reputation, or even how much it must have cost back in the day. I do have a couple of guitar history books, and I will also search the web, but I thought our Gibson Forum members would probably have some info that I could use,so I started here.
No matter what the world's opinion of my "new" Gibson "was" and "is", this particular guitar model will always occupy a special place in my heart and in my history with music, but I would appreciate anything on it that Forum members might have to contribute. If this topic has been covered too much here, I understand, and I will keep looking around, but I thought this might be a good place to begin my education on the topic of the Gibson "Country Western" model, so thank you in advance for anything relevant.
Posted 13 October 2012 - 05:10 AM
I owned a reissue of an early 60's country western call the Sheryl Crow. Square shoulders. Short scale. Spruce over mahogany. 1 23/32 nut width. It was one of the best guitars I ever owned, and I made a mistake selling her.
Post pictures if you can? A sound clip maybe? Mine had a nice low end growl and it was a great strummer.
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Posted 13 October 2012 - 05:40 AM
Please do post some pics and sound sample if possible.
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Posted 13 October 2012 - 06:41 AM
Congrats on the new guitar!
I will never forget my first guitar - a 1930s Martin archtop. A friend of the family had it sitting in their closet and knowing I wanted a guitar in the worst way gave to me as a birthday present. I did not know a good guitar from a can of tuna back then so I did not care what it was. All I knew was it was a real guitar and I treasured it.
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Posted 13 October 2012 - 09:41 AM
Like the SJ, it existed as slope before following the fashion and going square in 1962. You'll notice that the pick-guard is thinner than the Bird's though, and some have speculated if that gives the C & W and SJ lesser honey-tone – more edge. That's a standing mystery and don't hesitate to post pictures and sound-tests of yours. They would be welcome.
Finally purchasing this old dream is a scoop – one of those things that sooner or later just had to be done. Congratulations.
Posted 14 October 2012 - 12:12 AM
Thanks to all, (and any more information on the Gibson "Country Western Model" would still be very much appreciated).
Posted 14 October 2012 - 06:43 PM
Funny you'd mention the interior label. That was one of the distinctive features that I most remembered from long-ago when the Gibson "Country Western Model" that sat in the window of my hometown music store was my passion. Its oval label, in addition to being Beige in color, had a graphic art western rope design around its perimeter. When I saw that unique label again for the first time in over forty-five years, my memory banks burst open and the ensuing flood completely obliterated all traces of sales resistance.
One look and I knew that this guitar would be mine before the day was over.
Posted 14 October 2012 - 07:18 PM
Regarding the adjustable saddle, this is a major issue and a vital key to the sound of the guitar. We have talked a lot about it here, so see if you can find the threads.
If not, you are welcome to PM me and I will provide some advice.
In rough, the clue is to bring the saddle in contact with the top and try different materials. A groovy all winter occupation.
Posted 15 October 2012 - 11:19 AM
As for the ADJ saddle question, I would say if you like the guitar as it is then leave well alone. The ADJ saddle has a bad reputation for killing tone and volume, but my 62 Texan sounds warm and wonderful with it, and my 2004 McCartney re-issue Texan is pretty loud with the same saddle, so I am a fan.
I hope you and your dream guitar have many happy years together, I had the same feeling as you when I finally got my 62 Texan last year
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Posted 17 October 2012 - 01:32 AM
Thanks to Forumites for comments,
Posted 17 October 2012 - 01:54 AM
Sounds good - I been walking around keen on putting the ceramic back in my '63 SJ - just for a revisit.
To top the experiment even bought silk'n'steel strings in case it becomes too sharp.
Your post might get me goin'. . . .
Posted 17 October 2012 - 08:29 AM
Nice pic of your beautiful C&W.
Leaving it original - must sound great.
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