Eddie, Dimebag, or Randy? Just for kicks
#1
Posted 13 November 2012 - 09:06 PM
So what's it gonna be folks? Who rocks out the hardest? Who's tracks still make you sweat to this day? All three of these guys had three very different approaches to similar styles of music. Who did it the best?
1) Eddie Van Halen
2) Dimebag Darrell OR
3) Randy Rhoads
??
Don't forget to vote! This should be interesting.
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#2
Posted 13 November 2012 - 09:12 PM
crazytrain513, on 13 November 2012 - 09:06 PM, said:
So what's it gonna be folks? Who rocks out the hardest? Who's tracks still make you sweat to this day? All three of these guys had three very different approaches to similar styles of music. Who did it the best?
1) Eddie Van Halen
2) Dimebag Darrell OR
3) Randy Rhoads
??
Don't forget to vote! This should be interesting.
EVH is one of the all time best.
#3
Posted 13 November 2012 - 09:15 PM
Just sayin...
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Kill everyone who ever done me wrong
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Kill everyone who ever done me harm
#4
Posted 13 November 2012 - 09:29 PM
EVH--Fretboard genius who changed the face of the Earth.
Randy- A one-of-a-kind neo-classical pioneer
Dimebag- The fastest gun in Texas. Influences from EVH, Rhoads, Frehley, Schenker, Satch, Hammet, Slayer, and many country players made him a monster.
Take a Gibson Les Paul, throw a DiMarzio Super Distortion in it, plug it into a Marshall amp and turn it up to 10. It's pretty much a no brainer!- Ace ****in' Frehley
I don't see why we have to go through all the bullshit of high school just to be musicians- Alex Lifeson
It doesn't matter how fast you can play or how many chords you know, if you can't play the blues, go the **** home you ain't worth nothin'- Richie Scarlet
Critics love Elvis Costello because they all look like him- David Lee Roth
Ace is God- Dimebag Darrell (RIP. 1966-2004)
Like is too strong a word...I don't really like anybody- Chris DeNicola (I love Road Rants)
You can keep the drugs, I'll take the sex and the rock n' roll- Paul Stanley
Thanks..I like to play...- Garth Algar (AKA Dana Carvey)
And most importantly....**** OFF ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME! (Gene Simmons, Eddie Trunk, and anyone who matters)
#5
Posted 13 November 2012 - 09:32 PM
kaleb, on 13 November 2012 - 09:29 PM, said:
EVH--Fretboard genius who changed the face of the Earth.
Randy- A one-of-a-kind neo-classical pioneer
Dimebag- The fastest gun in Texas. Influences from EVH, Rhoads, Frehley, Schenker, Satch, Hammet, Slayer, and many country players made him a monster.
Not to mention how:
EVH: Thought Randy copied him, saw Randy as a threat
Randy - Saw EVH as a challenge, said he avoided double-tapping simply to differ from Eddie and reverted to double/triple hammer-ons that some may regard as requiring even more "talent"
Dimebag - Looked up to both of them, yet was probably the fastest, yet tonally insane of them both.
Decisions, decisions...
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#6
Posted 13 November 2012 - 09:39 PM
I like Eddie but never cared much for the songwriting in Van Halen, when I listen to them is to listen to Eddie.
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#7
Posted 13 November 2012 - 09:43 PM
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#8
Posted 13 November 2012 - 09:57 PM
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#9
Posted 13 November 2012 - 10:31 PM
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#10
Posted 13 November 2012 - 10:32 PM
Randy did a lot for two albums. In that respect, he beat Hendrix. Dime had a great career. He brought metal guitar to a new level.
I think a better contest would be Eddie, Randy, and Michael Schenker. Dime would belong more with Zakk and Hammett. (or other shred-masters of his era).
Take a Gibson Les Paul, throw a DiMarzio Super Distortion in it, plug it into a Marshall amp and turn it up to 10. It's pretty much a no brainer!- Ace ****in' Frehley
I don't see why we have to go through all the bullshit of high school just to be musicians- Alex Lifeson
It doesn't matter how fast you can play or how many chords you know, if you can't play the blues, go the **** home you ain't worth nothin'- Richie Scarlet
Critics love Elvis Costello because they all look like him- David Lee Roth
Ace is God- Dimebag Darrell (RIP. 1966-2004)
Like is too strong a word...I don't really like anybody- Chris DeNicola (I love Road Rants)
You can keep the drugs, I'll take the sex and the rock n' roll- Paul Stanley
Thanks..I like to play...- Garth Algar (AKA Dana Carvey)
And most importantly....**** OFF ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME! (Gene Simmons, Eddie Trunk, and anyone who matters)
#11
Posted 13 November 2012 - 11:49 PM
I was a huge EVH fan, and he was THE guitarist to emulate when I was a kid. I was into blues as well, but I actually thought blues was dead, and I was studying history. I was so young back when I was a kid.
I don't think Eddie has changed, WE have changed. He still plays the same as he did, it just doesn't have the same impact in todays world.
Here's the irony: most kinda go "meh" for Ed now, cause it don't seem all that great or hard or whatever. But how many of us STUDIED the man? How long did it take to learn to play the stuff he plays? It was impressive back then, THEN we all HAD to learn how to play it. We aren't all that impressed now, but if it wasn't for him, we wouldn't have learned it.
Today, I'm gonna go with Randy. I'm even more impressed now than I was then, and I WAS impressed. What impresses me the most is the beauty he was able to put into those 2 records, while at the same time, keeping it hard. I don't know if anyone else has been able to do that.
Next week, I might change my mind.
#12
Posted 14 November 2012 - 12:33 AM
stein, on 13 November 2012 - 11:49 PM, said:
I was a huge EVH fan, and he was THE guitarist to emulate when I was a kid. I was into blues as well, but I actually thought blues was dead, and I was studying history. I was so young back when I was a kid.
I don't think Eddie has changed, WE have changed. He still plays the same as he did, it just doesn't have the same impact in todays world.
Here's the irony: most kinda go "meh" for Ed now, cause it don't seem all that great or hard or whatever. But how many of us STUDIED the man? How long did it take to learn to play the stuff he plays? It was impressive back then, THEN we all HAD to learn how to play it. We aren't all that impressed now, but if it wasn't for him, we wouldn't have learned it.
Today, I'm gonna go with Randy. I'm even more impressed now than I was then, and I WAS impressed. What impresses me the most is the beauty he was able to put into those 2 records, while at the same time, keeping it hard. I don't know if anyone else has been able to do that.
Next week, I might change my mind.
Eddie's still Eddie, but it's just not "there" anymore. It's the same thing with Ace Frehley: he's not what he was back in the 70s. He's still awesome, and I will go see him whenever I can, but he's kinda sloppy (even for him) now. Stale is a strong word to use, but years of partying, boozing, and snorting cocaine will do that to a player. Eddie lived the same life.
I would go see Van Halen in a heartbeat if DLR wasn't such a has-been. Let's face it, he needs to go.
As a final note, Eddie sounded terrible on the last Hagar tour, but he's made great improvements. He's still da man!
Take a Gibson Les Paul, throw a DiMarzio Super Distortion in it, plug it into a Marshall amp and turn it up to 10. It's pretty much a no brainer!- Ace ****in' Frehley
I don't see why we have to go through all the bullshit of high school just to be musicians- Alex Lifeson
It doesn't matter how fast you can play or how many chords you know, if you can't play the blues, go the **** home you ain't worth nothin'- Richie Scarlet
Critics love Elvis Costello because they all look like him- David Lee Roth
Ace is God- Dimebag Darrell (RIP. 1966-2004)
Like is too strong a word...I don't really like anybody- Chris DeNicola (I love Road Rants)
You can keep the drugs, I'll take the sex and the rock n' roll- Paul Stanley
Thanks..I like to play...- Garth Algar (AKA Dana Carvey)
And most importantly....**** OFF ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME! (Gene Simmons, Eddie Trunk, and anyone who matters)
#13
Posted 14 November 2012 - 12:35 AM
...but when I heard Dimebag I realized there was "a new level." There was no pretence with Dimebag. The fat ugly dude didn't give a poop about being cute onstage or looking "cool." Randy and EVH are great stage performers, Dimebag just clocks in and does his job in a t and shorts.
EVH will always have that place in my heart because he made the solo for Beat It.
RR is not my cup, though I am glad Ozzy had him.
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#14
Posted 14 November 2012 - 12:36 AM
Dime was awesome.
Randy had taste, chops, and loved Leo Brouwer.
Randy all the way.
#15
Posted 14 November 2012 - 01:01 AM
Why not compare Eric Clapton, Mark Knopfler, and Stevie ray? Makes as much sense.
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#16
Posted 14 November 2012 - 01:09 AM
#17
Posted 14 November 2012 - 03:13 AM
Eddie Van Halen - is A. Salieri.
Dimebag Darrell - A. L. Webber.
(In every respect).
.
Cheers... Bence
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#18
Posted 14 November 2012 - 05:46 AM
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#19
Posted 14 November 2012 - 06:04 AM
I think the idea was to compare three "heavy metal gods", which is easy for someone less "educated" than everyone here, who doesn't take into account that Randy's roots were classical, Eddie was a groundbreaker, & Dime was just a metal monster.
I agree with the the person above who said Michael Schenker wouldve been a better option than Dime -- seems like most of us never really got into Dime's scene much anyways, though clearly no one's short on respect for him either.
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#20
Posted 14 November 2012 - 06:22 AM
crazytrain513, on 14 November 2012 - 06:04 AM, said:
I think the idea was to compare three "heavy metal gods", which is easy for someone less "educated" than everyone here, who doesn't take into account that Randy's roots were classical, Eddie was a groundbreaker, & Dime was just a metal monster.
I agree with the the person above who said Michael Schenker wouldve been a better option than Dime -- seems like most of us never really got into Dime's scene much anyways, though clearly no one's short on respect for him either.
The proper line-up for comparison would have been: Rhoads, Van Halen, Cavazo (Lynch, Lee) - these men were the idols of the same times. I think Rhoads is clearly the winner - since He stood the test of the times - probably the only one who is still appreciated as much as when He was alive (if not more). Van Halen - technical innovator for sure, but playing guitar is not purely about technics. Without taste, feel, and ability to compose, it's acrobacy (Malmsteen for example). Dime (God bless Him) wasn't any better than any other thrash-shredder around.
As for adding Schenker...again...different generation, different genre of music. Schenker is in the league with hard-rock-era Gary Moore, Frank Marino - maybe.
Anyways these polls only good for one thing: to make mad dogs out of people biting each other's throat. They make no sense.
Cheers... Bence
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