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Memphis VS Nashville Tone Circuit

#1 User is offline   Roverdog 

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 10:11 AM

Sorry if this has been asked before.

What is the difference between the Nashville Tone Circuit(ES339) and the Memphis Tone Circuit(ES 359)?

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 03:49 PM

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I'm not sure if they're wired the same, but as I understand it, they are both supposed to preserve high end as the volume decreases.


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Posted 02 December 2012 - 08:09 AM

I thought the 339 had the Memphis design ?

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 02:52 AM

I think the nashville tone circuit refers to the so called 50ies style wiring and the memphis tone circuit refers to the so called modern wiring scheme. Could be the other way round.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 09:35 AM

Somebody a while back posted that they pulled the wiring out of a 339 to see just what the Memphis tone circuit was and it turns out its the same as 50's wiring. Seeing how they both retain the treble when the volume is rolled off makes sense. Modern wiring looses treble when you roll of the volume and tends to muddy up the tone some especially noticeable on the neck PUP.

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 07:16 AM

View Postroadhog96, on 05 December 2012 - 09:35 AM, said:

Somebody a while back posted that the pulled the wiring out of a 339 to see just what the Memphis tone circuit was and it turns out its the same as 50's wiring. Seeing how they both retain the treble when the volume is rolled off makes sense. Modern wiring looses treble when you roll of the volume and tends to muddy up the tone some especially noticeable on the neck PUP.


So, I was right....

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 02:15 PM

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Yep Murph, I'd say so.

Don't know why, maybe cuz Gibson loves to be confusing, but on Gibson website the 339 lists the Nashville circuit and the 359 lists the Memphis circuit. The circuit descriptions spell out the same effect. Go figure.


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Posted 28 December 2012 - 07:46 AM

View PostJoe Isuzu, on 27 December 2012 - 09:41 AM, said:

Look in the section titled Hardware

http://www2.gibson.c...9/Features.aspx

Here's the 339 wiring schematic. I guess I changed it around when I rewired my 339 but it shows the stock wiring:
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Maybe I can find a photo of what the old harness looked like.
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Posted 29 December 2012 - 12:36 AM

That's a great picture! Yes, it is a Memphis Tone Circuit for the 339.
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Posted 30 December 2012 - 05:51 AM

Now that I (kind of) remember, I changed the 339 from memphis (50's) - with the cap after the tone control - to conventional wiring - with the caps between the volume and tone controls. And I added treble bleed circuits to the volume knobs. I like treble bleed circuits. They're a more refined solution to the treble bleed problem. And they work better.
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Posted 30 December 2012 - 05:56 AM

View Postrocketman, on 29 December 2012 - 12:36 AM, said:

That's a great picture! Yes, it is a Memphis Tone Circuit for the 339.

Nothing like a diagram with 3 holes punched in it to get an engineer excited!
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 12:00 AM

The 359 has some mojo. Me likee.

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