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Gibson Low-Impedance Guitars Club Les Pauls, L5-S', Basses.

#241 User is offline   Grog 

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Posted 24 February 2016 - 05:57 PM

Hi Bence,

I noticed that one around a year ago. It has a changed tailpiece & changed knobs. That tailpiece would be close to impossible to find. I see they just dropped the price though...........
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Posted 19 March 2016 - 11:39 AM

Tony Mottola's one-off Low Impedance ES355:

http://rudysmusic.co...a-es-355-899851
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Posted 20 March 2016 - 07:56 AM

View Postdaveg, on 19 March 2016 - 11:39 AM, said:

Tony Mottola's one-off Low Impedance ES355:

http://rudysmusic.co...a-es-355-899851


It's under $40,000.00!............. Neat guitar!

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Posted 20 March 2016 - 09:16 AM

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Posted 20 March 2016 - 04:23 PM

Nice! Did you get a chance to talk to him Dave?
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Posted 21 March 2016 - 03:45 AM

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Beautiful instrument. It's finish reminds me of this guitar from the current line-up:

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http://www.gibson.co...349-Walnut.aspx

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Posted 21 March 2016 - 03:47 AM

Grog,

I expressed an interest in the Low Impedance nature of the ES355 (in a letter) and he was kind enough to mail me the photo. The guitar was a one-off and never went into production.

Bence,

The finish reminded me of the "Crest" which I have seen a few times.

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Posted 21 March 2016 - 03:49 AM

:)

I've just noticed another special thing about it: it has 23 frets.

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Posted 21 March 2016 - 04:27 AM

That is a beauty too, Dave! I didn't knew about this model. Thank You for showing me!

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More about it here: http://www.gibson.co...bsons-0917.aspx

Best wishes... Bence
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Posted 21 March 2016 - 06:42 AM

The Inlaid Marquetry on the back tends to suggest that the Mottola Guitar was a modified "Crest" and not an ES355.

The Crest had no pickup routing because its pickups were the Johnny Smith variety. The plain top would then have been easily routed for the Low Impedance pair. Added to this the Crest was a fully hollow body design with no centre block making the routing easier.
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Posted 21 March 2016 - 06:42 AM

The Inlaid Marquetry on the back tends to suggest that the Mottola Guitar was a modified "Crest" and not an ES355.

The Crest had no pickup routing because its pickups were the Johnny Smith variety. The plain top would then have been easily routed for the Low Impedance pair. Added to this the Crest was a fully hollow body design with no centre block making the routing easier.
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Posted 21 March 2016 - 02:11 PM

The Crest was more like a fancy ES-330, fully hollow like Dave mentioned. I was fortunate to have been able to see one in person. It was a silver Crest. Beautiful, rare guitar.
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Posted 22 March 2016 - 04:24 AM

There is another anomaly with the Mottola Guitar.

The bridge is a "fixed" Tunomatic variant whereas Crests usually have an archtop type bridge.

The position of the three way toggle doesn't suit either the ES355 or the Crest.

There is a "mistake" in the description in the Rudy's ad. Presumably, the whole wiring harness of a Recording has been fitted into the guitar with the necessary extension for the 3 way toggle. Therefore the Controls would be Volume, Bass, Treble and Decade. There cannot be Decade, 2 Volume and 2 Tone as they say - that's five and the pic only shows four.

I notice also that it states that there are two outputs - that is a Recording Mark II arrangement. Maybe this guitar came before the Mark II?

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 06:58 PM

View Postdaveg, on 22 March 2016 - 04:24 AM, said:

There is another anomaly with the Mottola Guitar.

The bridge is a "fixed" Tunomatic variant whereas Crests usually have an archtop type bridge.

The position of the three way toggle doesn't suit either the ES355 or the Crest.

There is a "mistake" in the description in the Rudy's ad. Presumably, the whole wiring harness of a Recording has been fitted into the guitar with the necessary extension for the 3 way toggle. Therefore the Controls would be Volume, Bass, Treble and Decade. There cannot be Decade, 2 Volume and 2 Tone as they say - that's five and the pic only shows four.

I notice also that it states that there are two outputs - that is a Recording Mark II arrangement. Maybe this guitar came before the Mark II?

DG


Due to the way that the neck is mounted & the normal "Tune-O-Matic" bridge, I would be surprised if this guitar wasn't a semi hollow body. As Dave said, the Crest top could be easily modified to anything. The Les Paul Signature has a big chunk of the center block hollowed out on the control side to aid in installing all of the controls, still not easy! If Lester had any say in this guitar, he would insist on the center block.....
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Posted 26 May 2016 - 02:40 PM

Hi all,

I haven't been out here in awhile but I wanted to let everyone know I got my 1974 Less Paul Signature back from Ron Pace Guitar shop. It took Ron 10 months and me buying a vintage inductor but the guitar now appears to be functioning correctly. Time will tell if any problems show up but so far I have played it and no issues.

First, I would like to thank member grog for all his help. He went out of his way to take internal pictures of his guitar so Ron Pace could figure out the wiring. Even then it took a couple of extra months to sort it out. Ron told me if there was any guitar he wanted to leave his shop, mine was it. [wink]

Second, the sound of this guitar is surprising. It's mellow, yet some settings gets a real bite. I really like the flexibility in tone.

Third, attached is a picture of the guitar.

Walter

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Posted 26 May 2016 - 06:06 PM

Hi Walter,

Beautiful guitar!! I didn't know it was one of the few sunburst models! The shipping total book only lists (85) shipped in Tobacco Sunburst. Whether Ron Pace ever want's to see another one or not, he is now the expert on repairing a rare vintage guitar.......... Congratulations!!

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Posted 28 May 2016 - 03:41 PM

Hi George,

Yeah it's a beautiful guitar. The first Vintage Guitar magazine I picked up had a sunburst one. I had always wanted one after that. Years ago someone had one for sale and I bought it. It was rewired incorrectly at one point (and the inductor ended up missing).

Thanks again for all your help. You really went out of your way and I (and Ron) do appreciate that effort. And the nice thing is with your help we have repaired a beautiful rare guitar back to it's glory.

Walter
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Posted 26 August 2016 - 06:47 AM

Hello George, and Dave.

As it seems, the Treble pot died on my '78 Recording.

Do You happen to know the make, specs of it? What would be the correct new replacement part for it?

Thank You in advance!

Best wishes... Bence
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Posted 27 August 2016 - 06:10 AM

View Postbtoth76, on 26 August 2016 - 06:47 AM, said:

Hello George, and Dave.

As it seems, the Treble pot died on my '78 Recording.

Do You happen to know the make, specs of it? What would be the correct new replacement part for it?

Thank You in advance!

Best wishes... Bence


It is a 1K (Linear - I think) - good luck!!

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Posted 27 August 2016 - 09:36 AM

Hi Bence,

The pot should have been made by CTS. My extra control plate for a '73 Les Paul Triumph bass shows a part # of 70-988. I'll post a photo of that & the info from my 1981 Parts List book.

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