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  1. In Topic:Gibson L-1 Tribute or LG-2

    Yesterday, 10:27 PM

    I don't know what the bracing is in the modern version of these guitars. The original 1926 L-1 was ladder braced, as was the LG-1, while the LG-2 was x braced. The ladder braced guitars have sparse percussive -- great for blues -- while the x brace is fuller.

    I have a couple comparison videos that might help.

    Here is a 1931 L-2 (x-braced) compared to a 1926 L-1.

    Here is a 1959 LG-1 (ladder braced) and a 1946 LG-2 (x braced).


  2. In Topic:NGD

    18 November 2017 - 01:54 PM

    View PostSirNed, on 18 November 2017 - 07:58 AM, said:

    Besides being beautiful, wonderful-sounding guitars, vintage Hummingbirds have a lot of sentimental value to me. The biggest reason is because my grandpa designed the pg art. He did some custom work during his time at Gibson, and hand-engraved many pgs in the early 60s. He also created the pg art for the Dove and the Epiphone Excellente (eagle version).Those two are still on my list. I posted about it a while back, if you want to check it out:

    I have been searching for a Hummingbird with a hand-engraved pg, but I have not had any luck yet. I have found his hand-engraved pgs on the Dove and Excellente. If your Dove is from the early 60s, it's likely that he made the guard. The Excellente is really rare, and the large pgs are known to deteriorate. If you see one with the original guard, they do have his initials at the base of the tree branch. Those models were used by Ernest Tubb and Loretta Lynn.

    Loving it and having fun already! Thanks, Bozz!

    Well that is totally cool!
  3. In Topic:NGD

    17 November 2017 - 10:27 PM


    tpbiii: Your 'bird is in really nice shape! Are you the original owner? Your analysis of acoustic guitars through the decades makes sense. I never really thought about how amplification could shift design priority away from projection.

    No, we are the second owner. We have had it a bit more than 25 years. In the 60s, I could not have afforded it -- I had a 1960 LG-1 in the 1960s.

    The history of the pick guards is pretty interesting. The earliest ones were totally hand engraved and painted. They were done free hand and many were signed -- initials but at different places. Then there was a period where they were partially pressed and partially engraved -- still a lot of hand work. Finally they were just pressed out and painted. As much as I love this stuff, I really don't know when exactly this was done. Ours clearly has a lot of hand engraving but I think maybe not all. It is like a treasure hunt, although 64 may be a bit late -- I don't know. Most people think the late 60s declined started in mid 65 when they got the neck carving machine. Yours should be safely on the good side of that.

  4. In Topic:NGD

    17 November 2017 - 10:16 AM

    It looks like a great guitar!! Wow.

    Ours is similar in most ways. Here is its picture.

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    We decided to keep ours stock. I am not proposing that you should -- everyone's goals are different (and we are very different!). But I thought you might enjoy our reasoning.

    We (try) to play a number of different genres -- old time, bluegrass, folk revival, gospel, and such. Having a lot of instruments, we love to mix and match, but (1) some instruments are intrinsically better (IMHO) for some genres and (2) some instruments are historically associated with particular genres as well. Examples are the Martin D-28 and bluegrass, the 1920s Gibson L-1 and blues, etc. When an instrument was introduced as the genre was developing, there was sometimes a symbiotic relationship between the instruments and the genre -- this was certainly true with the Martin D-28 guitars, Gibson F-5 mandolins, and the Gibson flathead banjos and bluegrass. Well we feel that the Hummingbird had that same kind of role when folk revival and folk rock music exploded in the 60s. We love the (romantic) idea that we are performing period music with period instruments thus possibly achieving a period sound.

    I guess the other reason we leave it alone is that we find it very useful for some part of what we do. The big gripe about 60s Gibsons -- and Martins too for that matter -- is they do not have the power of the older models. More power is what you might be able to achieve by modifying the bridge/saddle but (1) not much IME and (2) you change tone too. An examination of the power of guitar models from the 1930s to the 1970s is a decease from decade to decade for all decades. So the power rankings for the big acoustic guitars is 30s, 40s, 50s, early 60s, late 60s, and 70s. I think the reason this could happened is the advent of sound reinforcement -- by the 1960s, no one ever gave performances to large audiences without sound reinforcement. In addition, the wonderful thing about the folk revival was its inclusiveness -- we know because we were therePosted Image. What developed was a milder genre where the emphasis was not so much on power and "action adjustibility" was a selling point. It is my believe and experience that the early HBs like yours and ours fitted perfectly into that mix. Because they were there, they sound now "right" to my ear. Here is a 60's style rendition of a Kingston Trio piece on our Hummingbird.

    In any case congratulations on your iconic old bird -- may you enjoy it in many ways.


  5. In Topic:NGD

    16 November 2017 - 08:49 PM

    Our 62 HB case had a red interior. It even stained the binding a little -- pink. I wonder if the color difference means anything.

    Congratulation on the guitar. Ours has the same specs -- it gives that marvelous early 60s Gibson strumming tone from our youth. If you are interested here are some recordings from our basement with the hummingbird.





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