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  1. Still for sale. In no hurry. It's too nice to give away as anyone who owns one would know. A little concerned for a while due to someone looking at it complaining about the frets. Guess I'm not real familiar with how low or crowned the frets should be on these 'fretless' guitars. Maybe someone in this forum would know. He was complaining about some tiny grooves on the frets. A lot of microscopic ones on a fair number of frets that you can' t really feel but can see. Also complained about somewhat squared edges on some frets. Claimed someone had probably filed the frets down in a crude manner. Met Bob Dylan's guitar/instrument tech a while ago and he's been doing some work on a couple if blackface Fender amps I bought recently. He's not all that familiar with the fretless models but one of his gurus looked at the frets and said they're fine. Thought the guitar was one of the nicest early ones he's ever seen. Worst case scenario if the frets do need replacement it's about $350. A little more than usual because of the high quality binding on the Personal. I understand the guy at Dave's Guitar in LaCrosse is one of the best in the Midwest so I'd take it there if need be. Bottom line is frets are not a big deal in the grand scheme of things. Complaining about them on this guitar is like expecting the windshield wipers on a 46 year old car to be original and in perfect working order. It's a wearable part. Otherwise have had it at a couple of guitar shows lately and it was a hit. Many people saying it was the coolest thing there. Nice guy from Chicago Music Exchange more or less offered about $2200 saying they'd expect to get over $3000 for it with a little patience.
  2. Thanks for the kind words. Mixed feelings about possibly selling it. Probably shouldn't have sold my 1959 Les Paul Custom back in 1980 for $800. In 35 years my grandchildren might be saying the same thing about the Personal.
  3. Just listed my 1970 Personal for sale on eBay and probably Reverb.com. Also will be on the local craigslist in Madison, WI. Not sure if this forum is a proper place to communicate that so someone let me know if not and I'll pull this post. It's in fantastic condition and I hope it goes to someone who'll appreciate it as much as I have. You can see pictures of it in this forum. Earlier in this low impedance thread.
  4. Can someone educate me regarding low impedance signals and guitar effect pedals? When running a Les Paul Personal into a pedal board should the transformer be before or after the pedal board or do I just not understand signals/impedance and it doesn't matter? I'm thinking since other Low Impedance guitar models have the transformer built into the guitar then 'before the pedal board' is a workable approach. I've seen somewhere that it's best to have the transformer right before the amp to get the best affect. Seems like that's not possible if you've got a pedal board between the transformer and the amp. Do pedals know or care if a signal sent to them is low or high impedance? Does a pedal work on a low impedance signal the same way it does a high impedance signal? At the risk of being redundant I'll restate the question: I'm not sure if it matters if you send a low impedance signal thru a pedal board, have the signal affected by the pedals, and then the affected signal converted from low to high impedance just before going into the amp. Or if it's potentially better if you convert the low to high and have the high impedance signal affected by the pedals and then sent to the amp. I've messed around a little bit with both approaches and haven't noticed a significant difference in sound. But without having A/B'd the setup I'm not sure if I'm really remembering closely enough how they compare since I have to try one approach, quick switch the cords around and then try the other approach while trying to remember how the other approach sounded. I suppose I could try recording the two different approaches but haven't gotten that far yet.
  5. Not seeing much in the Recording Series for sale around the net lately. What is has a pretty high price. I hope they get what they're asking for. Unless they're selling it to me. Heard a saying the other day. Land is a good investment because they're not making any more of it. That also applies to a lot of guitars like Paul Personal's and Professionals.
  6. Beautiful collection. Looks like you've about got it covered. There is no 'Made in USA' on the back of my Personal's headstock. I suppose you could say mine falls into a transitional period (if one exists) between 60's LP's and the Norlin era. The 60's earmarks would seem to be no 'Made in USA', the Gibson script headstock inlay with no dot on the 'i' and also the open 'o' and 'b' in the script, the 3 pots from 69 and the 892xxx serial number which might indicate the 60's. The Norlin earmarks are the pancake body, the number of headstock and neck plys (can definitely see the 5 plys in the headstock and I suppose that means the neck has to be 3 piece), the lesser angle of the headstock (I suppose I should measure/compare that) and the smallish volute. Here's a picture of what I assume is a volute: Thanks for the additonal context regarding mine's valuation based on your experience. Sounds encouraging. Thanks for the shipping numbers on the Professional. Did they come from a Gibson Rep/Book?
  7. Hi Grog, It was surreal seeing it there, especially in a Pawn America where you'd think everything would be picked over and priced outrageously. I must have came across it almost immediately after it got there. They were asking $1399. I didn't argue much even though at the time I was unfamiliar with what it was. But a few minutes on my phone searching clued me in that it had to be worth more than that. It really is in amazing shape. No fret wear, no major dings or scratches at all. The only metal corrosion was a little bit on the neck pickup ring between the pickup and the neck. All electronics work and it even had the original low/hi impedance transformer. OHSC in very good condition. Pretty confident that it shipped in 1970. Not sure how long it took Gibson to put them together but it has 3 pots from mid to late 1969 and one (unfortunately I guess) from the 14th week of 1970. Gibson seemed to corroborate that it could have been being built in 69 and shipped in 70 but who knows. I think that pot from 1970 pretty much tells the story. I knew the serial number 892xxx could be difficult place in that era. Gibson did verify there were 370 made between 69 and 73. 2 in 69, 222 in 70, 95 in 71, 49 in 72 and 2 in 73. Do you or anyone in this forum know how many Professionals shipped and when? May not find another deal like that ever, especially in a place like that, since these days there doesn't seem to be anything flying under the radar any more. It motivates me to stay open to looking hard wherever I may be. Based on a few vintage guitar buyers I've emailed they'd take it pretty quick for $1800 or so and attempt to resell somewhere between $2200 and $2600. So that Pawn Stars clip you gave the link to sort of supports that pricing. I think the Personal model has a few advantages over some of its siblings but I'm biased and would hope it'd go for more. I guess I could understand if these never really took off value wise because it is so specialized. But then again it has so many interesting features, such high quality craftsmanship, from what I can tell a stupendous neck and such low production numbers who knows where the value may go. I guess it turning 50 in a couple of years won't hurt either. I threw together a web site after gathering together what info I could find so far about the Personal and the Recording Series in general. https://sites.google.com/site/lespaulpersonal/home Looking for feedback especially if I've misstated anything. It's still a work in progress.
  8. Found this 1970 Personal abandoned in a Pawn America. Am now obsessed. Not your standard Rock guitar but the possibilities seem endless in the recording studio. Really appreciate the informational sites mentioned in the forum. Had found most of them in my searching around the net for more info but it's nice to see them mentioned as good resources. Hope to find more time soon to test out the XLR mic cords I got from Full Compass and Guitar Center for the Guitar -> Transformer part of the run to the amp. So far it seems to work OK. Had to replace the orginal cord that goes between the Transformer and the amp due to age.
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