Cougar Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 This was dredged up from the deepest recesses of my musical memory. I'm not sure how it got there, or from where. Any ideas, speculations, guesses? whoknows on soundcloud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdgm Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Very nice too!....But I've no idea really - a bit of Leo Kottke, a line from 'Embryonic Journey' maybe, then it suddenly goes all Bob James TV soundtrack for a moment. Well played! What did you use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saturn Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 I don't recognize any exact matches to another tune. But at times it brings to my mind "Little Martha" by Duane Allman and a little bit of the "Hill Street Blues" theme. Regardless of whether or not it sounds like some other tune, the playing is very nice. Great job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milod Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Nice pickin - but no idea whence came the tune. m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glp2012 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Led Zeppelin Physical Graffiti - Bron-Yr-Aur. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqptegyFWbE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly campbell Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Led Zeppelin Physical Graffiti - Bron-Yr-Aur. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqptegyFWbE Sure sounds like that is it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted September 14, 2014 Author Share Posted September 14, 2014 Thanks for the comments. I too think it's from some Led Zep acoustic piece, but I've scoured their stuff and I've never been able to find it. Bron-Yr-Aur does have some similarities. Maybe another version of that, or another piece inspired by that. I probably heard it in the late 60s.... Well played! What did you use? I've played fingerstyle for a number of years, but I don't really play guitar that well. I guess that background lets me play more "like a guitar" on keys. It's played on a Motif XS7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted September 14, 2014 Author Share Posted September 14, 2014 ...a line from 'Embryonic Journey' maybe.... Whoa! That is it! It's not Page, from the Airplane! And apparently Kottke did a cover of it in the late 70s. Man, you nailed it. Thank you, thank you! That's been driving me nuts for decades! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Farnsbarns Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Whoa! That is it! It's not Page, from the Airplane! And apparently Kottke did a cover of it in the late 70s. Man, you nailed it. Thank you, thank you! That's been driving me nuts for decades! Oh yes. I was fairly convinced by the Metallica suggestion but when I listened it was missing that modal shifted bit. I wondered if maybe you'd filled a gap in your memory but no, there it is. Lovely piece an VERY nicely played BTW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted September 14, 2014 Author Share Posted September 14, 2014 Lovely piece an VERY nicely played BTW! Wow, thank you. After hearing the original, I see I've got some work to do, along with speeding it up a bit. I'm not going to be able to get that slide in there though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milod Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 I couldn't recognize the tune regardless... But I find the thread increasingly interesting in that Cougar was playing keyboard that sounds so much like fingerpicking. I was trying to figure out the attack, fingerpicks or what, and the way a guitar was recorded... A re-listen to the tune explained a lot. There are likely a dozen sub-threads that I could see coming from this one... guitars as keyboards and keyboards as guitars, tune themes that become part of us and that we both vary and "copy" almost subconsciously (think beatles copyright case)... tone for a given piece... how the mind works with keyboard vs fingerboard... Interesting... m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdgm Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 M - yes I must agree....I thought he was using a computer modelling sound.... Here are 2 definitive versions of this now-classic tune; it was written by Jorma Kaukonen, but Kottke is such an amazingly powerful player he brings another dimension to the tune in his interpretation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-lWEzmSKm8 And from 'Surrealistic Pillow', Jorma's original: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IzoiqDaG4A I no longer have 'Surrealistic Pillow' or for that matter any Jefferson Airplane albums any more but I just checked and I still have 10 Leo Kottke LPs, though I sold 'Chewing Pine' which includes this track. Kottke favoured guitars built by a gentleman called Bozo Podunavac: copy the name and google for images of the guitars......wow, much sought after. http://www.dreamguitars.com/builder/45-bozo/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted November 29, 2014 Author Share Posted November 29, 2014 Here are 2 definitive versions of this now-classic tune; it was written by Jorma Kaukonen, but Kottke is such an amazingly powerful player he brings another dimension to the tune in his interpretation: Kottke could have been up more in the mix! But yeah, that's another dimension, plus he added more instruments, which gives me that idea. I've always been into multitracking, from 2, later to 4, now essentially unlimited. And from 'Surrealistic Pillow', Jorma's original: Ah, yes. I must have listened to that album more than a lot of times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4Hayden Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Liked it , but no idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L8_4thesh0w Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 See if you notice any similarity with "Avenging Annie" by Andy Pratt circa 1972 and covered by Rodger Daltrey on his One Of The Boys album. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMQdu-hoS9w http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yp-fMERX67k Σß Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zigzag Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Hey, I just got here... What'd I miss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edlo Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 I don't recognize any exact matches to another tune. But at times it brings to my mind "Little Martha" by Duane Allman and a little bit of the "Hill Street Blues" theme. Regardless of whether or not it sounds like some other tune, the playing is very nice. Great job. I agree it reminds me of some of Hill Street Blues theme, very familiar little tune. Well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdgm Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 I can't let this go past without noting that Jorma Kaukonen recorded an entire album of different versions of this composition in 1994 with Tom Constanten (including 'A MIDI Orchestration Embryonic Journey') - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embryonic_Journey_%28album%29 Here he is prior to that in 1988 with a long solo version: Regards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zigzag Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Saw Hot Tuna a few years ago in a small venue. Jorma is not what he used to be, but they were still great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretplay Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 At first I thought Rodigo's Aranjuez was the influence, certainly Spanish but latter I hear themes from TV shows. Very good, it's not played on guitar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted November 30, 2014 Author Share Posted November 30, 2014 Hey, I just got here... What'd I miss? First of all, thanks to everybody for listening. I couldn't remember what this piece was or where it came from. jdgm actually named it in post #2, but I didn't realize it until post #8. Embryonic Journey off the Surrealistic Pillow album. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted November 30, 2014 Author Share Posted November 30, 2014 See if you notice any similarity with "Avenging Annie" by Andy Pratt circa 1972 and covered by Rodger Daltrey on his One Of The Boys album. A couple slight similarities. A slight similarity in how the keyboard is played. I need a lead singer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted November 30, 2014 Author Share Posted November 30, 2014 I agree it reminds me of some of Hill Street Blues theme, very familiar little tune. Well done. A couple people said that. I used to watch Hill Street Blues all the time (Let's be careful out there.) I had to google it to remember how that theme song went -- I always liked that theme! I guess that quick drop-down chord progression is a similarity, but... different pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted November 30, 2014 Author Share Posted November 30, 2014 Here he is prior to that in 1988 with a long solo version: Man, that was a pretty rowdy crowd, LOL. The crowd was mic'd about as well as Jorma's guitar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted November 30, 2014 Author Share Posted November 30, 2014 I can't let this go past without noting that Jorma Kaukonen recorded an entire album of different versions of this composition in 1994 with Tom Constanten (including 'A MIDI Orchestration Embryonic Journey') Thanks jd. I had to go over to ebay and pick up a copy of that! I'm real interested to see how Constanten's keyboard fits in there.... But a whole album of the same piece? I wonder if that's a first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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